Coronavirus

[Fradi]

Yes and no. "by a large margin" is open to interpretation.

In number of cases 65% of cases are vaccinated people, but if you prorate it to the number of people vaccinated vs non, you still have a 4x higher chance of catching if unvaccinated. We will see if this evolves, but that was the situation up to Dec 17th

edit after I originally posted. The under 12s are skewing the numbers. They are a big percentage of the cases and a big percentage unvaccinated. Your statement is accurate for the older age groups.

Cloudsurf posted a tidbit that double vaccinated that had a break through infection developed a very high level of immunity. The study was at a small scale but if it pans out, great news. May make some heads explode if they need to get vaccinated to develop their natural immunity LOL.

Antibody Response and Variant Cross-Neutralization After SARS-CoV-2 Breakthrough Infection

This study of fully vaccinated health care workers examines antibody levels and variant cross-neutralization after COVID-19 breakthrough infection.

jamanetwork.com

Interpretation or not numbers don’t lie. Just a couple of months ago hospitalization stood at X25 times more likely for the unvaccinated today it is X14.8 and the gap keeps closing and real numbers for Omicron have not come yet.
What Cloudsurf published is for Delta and may or may not hold true for Omicron.
Truth is right now it is scary shit and there are conflicting news South Africa is claiming less severe symptoms for Omicron while news out of the UK where Omicron is rapidly replacing Delta is that it is just as severe as Delta so right now we don’t know what to believe.
Give it a month before we can have any real value put to the data we are receiving

 

[gaby]

DUBÉ ce jour....avec la hausse fulgurante des cas c'était prévisible....le Québec reconfine....

-Fermeture des écoles primaires et secondaires dès demain.....garderies restent ouvertes.

-Fermeture dès ce soir des bars---casinos---gyms---cinémas et salles de spectacle

-Les restos ouverts MAIS DE 5h à 22 heures....pas de problème pour les take out et livraisons.

-TÉLÉTRAVAIL OBLIGATOIRE

-APPEL ENCORE pressant à la vaccination....et à se procurer les tests rapides en pharmacie.

-Ne déroge pas ENCORE aux rassemblements de 10 personnes VACCINÉES pour les fêtes...MAIS fait appel au bon sens/discernement des citoyens.......ne serait pas surprenant d'ailleurs qu'il révise sa position dans les prochains jours....

-NOUS avons atteint le max pour les tests de dépistage....45,000/jour...le réseau est saturé.....rappel urgent ...les centres de dépistage sont pour ceux SEULEMENT présentent des symptômes....et ne sont pas de nature PRÉVENTIVE.

 

[Skym]

So ..with this new variant and almost everything shutting down in Quebec, will agencies close down too?

Similar to when they closed down in the first wave?

 

[Blackshirts]

Do massage parlors fall under the SPA qualification and thus have to close? Bummer if they do

 

[mauricevachon]

A small group of Canadian doctors are starting to push back against the vaccines in a major way.

Ths presentation is mind-blowing.

The Pfizer Inoculations Do More Harm Than Good - Rumble

 

[EagerBeaver]

73% of all new Covid Cases in the USA are from the Omicron variant:

Omicron is now the dominant strain of coronavirus in the US, according to the CDC | CNN

The Omicron Covid-19 variant is now the most dominant strain in the US, accounting for over 73% of new coronavirus cases less than three weeks after the first was reported, according to estimates posted Monday by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

www.cnn.com

 

[cloudsurf]

73% of all new Covid Cases in the USA are from the Omicron variant:

Omicron is now the dominant strain of coronavirus in the US, according to the CDC | CNN

The Omicron Covid-19 variant is now the most dominant strain in the US, accounting for over 73% of new coronavirus cases less than three weeks after the first was reported, according to estimates posted Monday by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

www.cnn.com

From 3% to 73% in a week....that`s fukkin insane . It`s like a car going from 0 to 60 mph in 2 seconds.

It`s scary shit times and instead of mankind uniting....... the world is ready to explode.

 

[gallantca]

From 3% to 73% in a week....that`s fukkin insane . It`s like a car going from 0 to 60 mph in 2 seconds.

It`s scary shit times and instead of mankind uniting....... the world is ready to explode.

Here's something interesting

In the last 30 days in Quebec, there have been 43792 cases.

0-49yo = 35275
50-90yo= 8517

largest group is the 0-9 y/o with 9616

More kids caught it than in the entire population over 50.

If this is right, maybe the cases are being driven by the kids, probably infecting their parents.

The 30-39/40-49 groups have the worst percentage of vaccinated that caught it. Of course. They live with their little virus factories.

The fastest growing groups are 0, 10, 30, 40. The groups with the kids and their parents.

Maybe this is just an anomaly of the last 30 days. Maybe i'm out to lunch and can't read. Anyone want to check the Quebec portal LOL

 

[gaby]

..et l'on devrait avoir plus de 5,000 cas today .....et sûrement une apparition de LEGAULT avec de nouvelles mesures dans les prochaines heures,

 

[wetnose]

Cases in 2021 are not the same thing as cases in 2020 and as gallantca pointed out, a large number of cases are in the younger population, who are generally more resistant to its worst outcomes. (death)

A solid percentage of Canadians are vaccinated so we have a decent chance of fighting Omicron. We'll just have to wait and see how cases translate to hospitalizations.

Best case...Omicron turns out to be mild for everyone (vaxxed or not), we all catch it and gain immunity to all of its variants. Just like how we're living with the 1918 flu.

Worst case...ugh, there's no limit to this. 2020 would be a blip in comparison. Just have to cross that bridge if we get there.

 

[IamNY]

Montreal declares a state of emergency:

Montreal declares state of emergency as Quebec tops 5,000 COVID-19 cases

MONTREAL — Quebec is reporting 5,043 new cases of COVID-19 today and eight additional deaths linked to the novel coronavirus.

torontosun.com

 

[cloudsurf]

Montreal declares a state of emergency:

Montreal declares state of emergency as Quebec tops 5,000 COVID-19 cases

MONTREAL — Quebec is reporting 5,043 new cases of COVID-19 today and eight additional deaths linked to the novel coronavirus.

torontosun.com

Think of it ." Only " 500 cases a month ago would have been an unthinkable disaster. Quebec calls in the Canadian armed forces for help. Rene Levesque is turning in his grave. Go go lego .

 

[IamNY]

Our president is making a Covid announcement at 2:30. Should be as useless as the others.

 

[gaby]

Agree ..a large number of cases are in the younger population BUT the problem is qu'ils peuvent transmettre le virus dans leur entourage à des gens vulnérables ......

5,043 cas ce jour sur 42,303 tests...c'est plus de 11%..and we all know que ce n'est que la pointe de l'iceberg....en réalité il y a assurément des milliers et des milliers de positifs non déclarés....and IMHO sure many will translate in hospitalisation soon...

Suis assuré que début JANVIER nos hôpitaux vont être débordé/surchargé eux qui sont déjà dans un état très précaire....no i don't have a good feeling ....my 2 cents.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Our president is making a Covid announcement at 2:30. Should be as useless as the others.

He is a completely useless piece of shit. Supposedly the announcement is he will be giving everyone a free Covid kit. I will be sending my kit to Cloudsurf care of the Canadian embassy. He will probably need it more than me. I am going to attach a card that says, "from Joe Biden, with love." LOL

 

[gaby]

QUEBEC fait appel à la Croix Rouge et demande à Ottawa du renfort de l'armée pour la vaccination....et oui nous sommes rendu là....lol.....et vive le CANADA....lolll.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Our president is making a Covid announcement at 2:30. Should be as useless as the others.

I just heard that not a single one of the major news networks carried the supposed big Covid announcement. I think they all figured out he is a stupid fucking moron. When Dr. Fauci has something important to say, they will probably carry that.

 

[Bbw hunter]

I just heard that not a single one of the major news networks carried the supposed big Covid announcement. I think they all figured out he is a stupid fucking moron. When Dr. Fauci has something important to say, they will probably carry that.

Wonderful.
By this point I suspect Fauci may be the alien reincarnation of Marshall Applewhite.

 

[wetnose]

Think of it ." Only " 500 cases a month ago would have been an unthinkable disaster. Quebec calls in the Canadian armed forces for help. Rene Levesque is turning in his grave. Go go lego .

I admire him for setting pride aside and asking for help. Lives are at risk.

Why not? We pay taxes just like anyone else in Canada.

 

[sene5hos]

According to the National Institute of Public Health of Quebec, the Omicron variant is now responsible for 80% of new cases.