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Yes intolerance and extremism is unfortunately part of our society. Good thing they represent a minority even though loud. Hopefully, we will keep you from enjoying your hobbies for a long time exercising our rights to choose.
As I know Quebec has now more than 80% of adult population vaccinated. A lot of unvaccinated people already had COVID and thus do not want to be vaccinated. So, it is probably close to 90%. I know a guy in US that had COVID 3 times, one serious and 2 very mild and he is still pressed by his employer to be vaccinated. Is it rational? I think the blame on unvaccinated people is misdirected. By all theories if vaccines work, we should already be in the heard immunity territory and will not see the “tsunami” with OMICRON. The unvaccinated people are not at the root of the current situation, even for the hospitalization (the data shown by Patron was pre-Omicron and are not reliable now). COVID has mutated and immunity induced by vaccines declined more rapidly than expected. New modernized vaccines can’t be produced on time. Just face the reality. The only real answer is effective medicine that is not sensitive to mutation and prevents hospitalization. We have one developed by Phizer. A few pills cost $700. Governments already spent a fortune on vaccines and do not have money for this treatment. It is approved but is largely unavailable. But we have plenty of vaccines. So, have a shot, it is not helpful but will calm you down.
On herd immunity : the % of vaccination required to reach her immunity depends on the contagiousness of the virus. Since delta and then omicron became so contagious, the % went up to the point it is unachievable
People are pointing their finger at the unvaccinated because they represent a disproportional amount of hospital resources. It was 50% of hospitalizations. If these people were vaccinated, hospitalizations would be more than 40% less. That is a lot. People that don't like these facts question the underlying data but the data is there. As the numbers spiral up, this 50% will drop but will remain significant.
While the unvaccinated are making the problem significantly worst, they are not the root cause. A weak healthcare system is the problem Other provinces have similar unvaccinated rates and are not in lock down because their hospital systems are not as stretched.
We still have one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. To have a system that relies on 100% vaccination is ridiculous.
The government should continue to push vaccination while fixing the system. That probably means limiting contact for the most susceptible to hospitalization (the unvaccinated). The will probably focus more on the unvaccinated than the root case, which in the end will get us nowhere.
Measles is much more contagious than Omicron and yet vaccination is effective because it does not mutate as much as CORONA viruses.
Yo Yo Legault and his 2 minions had more than 2 years to improve hospitals and get ready for a variant such as Omicron, yet he did practically nothing there aren’t more beds, nurses, doctors or health care workers and even old age homes are still relatively the same.
Instead he thinks curfews are the answer for which there is no proof whatsoever.
He fucked up on rolling out booster shots which is probably the one thing that has the largest impact on hospitalization.
Yet these 3 Musketeers are still popular go figure.
Basically it has come to the point that there are no rapid tests, No PCR tests, no nurses or doctors, no beds you are on your own, you either make it through or die but don’t go outside or visit your family or friends because then we will fine you, we can always use the money for our next election campaign.
I was all for the vaccine passport in the beginning but now it is totally useless you are almost as likely to get Covid from someone who is fully vaccinated.
Instead he thinks curfews are the answer for which there is no proof whatsoever.
He fucked up on rolling out booster shots which is probably the one thing that has the largest impact on hospitalization.
Yet these 3 Musketeers are still popular go figure.
Basically it has come to the point that there are no rapid tests, No PCR tests, no nurses or doctors, no beds you are on your own, you either make it through or die but don’t go outside or visit your family or friends because then we will fine you, we can always use the money for our next election campaign.
I was all for the vaccine passport in the beginning but now it is totally useless you are almost as likely to get Covid from someone who is fully vaccinated.
Don't get infected is or should be the main strategy there.
Ned Lamont secures 426,000 Test Kits for Connecticut:
www.nhregister.com
Lamont secures 426,000 COVID tests; hospitals restrict visitors
The partial delivery comes less than a day after Lamont announced 500,000 at-home COVID...
www.nhregister.com
I am no expert on Measles or herd immunity but I believe due to the contagiousness of measles vaccination rates of 90something percent is required and even then does not guarantee against breakouts.
Hospitals making a killing from the China virus:
www.thedesertreview.com
Hospital Death Camps Exposed
Hospital Death Camps Exposed
“You can check-in, but you can never leave” is becoming the slogan of US hospitals treating COVID-19.
A quick Google search reveals that the Desert Review is yet another far-tight source of questionable accuracy.
There will be an election next october in Quebec.
I wish you would run for Prime minister, get elected and resolve all the Health System problems caused by the Liberal and PQ governments in the last thirty something years.
Good Luck !
That is a ridiculous answer from someone who hasn’t got much to say.
I did not run for elections, I did not take on the responsibility, and I have no wish to ever be an asshole politician who continually lies to people and I wasn’t the one making promises that I didn’t keep
The position I did hold however for over 37 years I must have done well otherwise they wouldn’t have kept me that long, and I did it without lying, cheating or wanting people to idolize me.
btw could I have done any worse.
Quebec has the highest Covid cases the most deaths and is the one where soon the hospitals will be overrun and everybody will be on their own.
Quebec has the worst record from start to finish in Canada yet you don’t think an elected politician should be held accountable.
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QUÉBEC....ce jour....pour commencer l'année 2022......17,122 nouveaux cas.....+ 8 décès + 98 hospitalisations pour un total de 1,161 + 2 aux soins intensifs pour un total de 153.....c'est bien mal parti. 
Janvier 2015, 223 décès par jour à cause du virus A-H3N2 ...... pour un total de 6900 décès .....QUÉBEC....ce jour....pour commencer l'année 2022......17,122 nouveaux cas.....+ 8 décès + 98 hospitalisations pour un total de 1,161 + 2 aux soins intensifs pour un total de 153.....c'est bien mal parti.
NY overall has a Covid positivity rate of 22.5% and in some parts of the state it's as high as 29%. Good news is the death rate hasn't skyrocketed like the positivity rate. We haven't seen the freezer trucks pulling up to the hospitals yet for the dead, so that's a good sign. Hospitals seem to have been prepared for the increase in patients so they aren't being overrun. No lockdowns, curfews, or any extreme measures yet. Night clubs and restaurants took a hit, but that's to be expected with all the new cases. Other than that, more and more people I know are getting Covid but none of them have been hospitalized or died.
and a special prayer that also reduces mortality rate among unvaccinated
I will never say a prayer for the unvaccinated.and a special prayer that also reduces mortality rate among unvaccinated
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