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I went for probably my 20th Covid swab test this morning since March 2020. I must say the Covid technician was very, very aggressive with the swab, sticking it in violent, corkscrewing thrusts up each nostril. It was really annoying, it seemed like Covid testing with extra aggression except I didn't pay for or order the extra aggression. Anyway I am waiting on the results.
 

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So I hope you're listening to the scientists :)
I will take your advice to heart and will indeed listen to myself :) . I know exponential function all to well. Though it looks scarry, it reaches saturation point pretty fast. So, sit tight and ride the storm. All this governmental bustle is for political reasons only and is pretty much useless at this stage.
 

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All the scientists said get vaccinated and your chances of getting Covid and being hospitalized are 70- 94% reduced.
In September you were x9 times as likely to get covid and x36 times as likely to end up in the hospital

Today it is 0.7 and 8.5 so maybe it is time to realize that the vaccine passport is a useless piece of garbage and you are much more likely to end up in the hospital also than before and almost as likely to be infected by a vaccinated person as an unvaccinated
Perhaps it is time to focus on why the fuck our government did nothing to improve the health care situation, did zilch to add hospital beds, hire nurses or bring in doctors.
They didn’t even have the foresight to purchase enough N95 masks for the population or to provide rapid test kits
This whole idea of making an appointment with the pharmacy for non existing kits is a total joke.
We all have a mail box most have community mailboxes how difficult would it have been to drop a kit in every addresses mail box. They seem to have no problem dropping propaganda to vote for them in your mail box or your front door and staple to every lamp posts but for Covid test kits which may save lives we have to make an appointment.
Of course the answer is curfews and lock downs lol all will be well in Yo YO Lego land.


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Actually scientists warned from the very beginning that vaccines would eventually become useless with sufficient number of virus mutations. This what is happening with Omicron. But the governments continue to press with vaccinations etc. This is an old trick and goes back to the down of human civilization. When shaman danced for rain and the drought continued, shaman blamed people for not praying hard enough. When it eventually rained, all credits went to him :D
 

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Actually scientists warned from the very beginning that vaccines would eventually become useless with sufficient number of virus mutations. This what is happening with Omicron.
This is kind of obvious as to what is happening. The government is behaving like there will be no more mutations when the overwhelming evidence is that Covid will mutate again, and again, and again, rendering all vaccinations as useless small band-aids placed over a large wound to try and stop the bleeding.
 
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This is kind of obvious as to what is happening. The government is behaving like there will be no more mutations when the overwhelming evidence is that Covid will mutate again, and again, and again, rendering all vaccinations as useless small band-aids placed over a large wound to try and stop the bleeding.
Perhaps not all evidence from Israel is that the 4th dose is the magic formula.
If not, well apparently Yo Yo Lego is working on a plan of giving everyone a free pizza after your 8th booster shot as an incentive, you will be able to enjoy it all locked away as there will be a permanent curfew and all stores, borders will be closed.
Press conference daily at 6pm that everyone will have to show evidence that they watched as police will be making house calls and issuing fines.
 

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All the scientists said get vaccinated and your chances of getting Covid and being hospitalized are 70- 94% reduced.
In September you were x9 times as likely to get covid and x36 times as likely to end up in the hospital

Today it is 0.7 and 8.5 so maybe it is time to realize that the vaccine passport is a useless piece of garbage and you are much more likely to end up in the hospital also than before and almost as likely to be infected by a vaccinated person as an unvaccinated

You may want to read the fine print on those claims. Especially today since someone over 60 (I think you are), your chance is much less than x9.

A few days ago 65% of cases were people over 60 and 80% of them were vaxxed.
However 35% were under 60 and 20% of them were vaxxed. In other words if they were vaxed we would get over 30% more capacity.

In other words, vaccines keep the younger out of hospitals and leave room for the elder who have less severe forms but still may need oxygen.

When they were making the wild claims of 36x, the younger were making up for a large percentage of a small number of cases in hospital. Very misleading.
Which is why I would never trust a number interpreted by the one of the 3 amigos.
 

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A COVID party, when I think of hospital staff.

Passengers who smoke electronic cigarettes in the cabin, others who drink their personal bottles of alcohol, dancing without masks and even sexual acts in the air, this is the ordeal experienced by flight attendants on December 30th.

According to our information, around 100 people boarded the Sunwing company plane.
The aircraft had been chartered by a private club that organized a trip from Montreal to Cancun, Mexico to celebrate New Year's Day ... far from Quebec sanitary measures.

I hope for severe penalties.
 
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You may want to read the fine print on those claims. Especially today since someone over 60 (I think you are), your chance is much less than x9.

A few days ago 65% of cases were people over 60 and 80% of them were vaxxed.
However 35% were under 60 and 20% of them were vaxxed. In other words if they were vaxed we would get over 30% more capacity.

In other words, vaccines keep the younger out of hospitals and leave room for the elder who have less severe forms but still may need oxygen.

When they were making the wild claims of 36x, the younger were making up for a large percentage of a small number of cases in hospital. Very misleading.
Which is why I would never trust a number interpreted by the one of the 3 amigos.
So in other words if you are over 60 forget about the vaccine because you are fucked anyway, is that what you are getting at.
Gives great confidence in the vaccine doesn’t it.
So we are right back to putting the elderly on unused cruise ships and floating them out to sea, problem solved and the rest can all get back to living again. No more curfews, hope Yo Yo Lego doesn’t read this.
 

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So in other words if you are over 60 forget about the vaccine because you are fucked anyway, is that what you are getting at.
Gives great confidence in the vaccine doesn’t it.
So we are right back to putting the elderly on unused cruise ships and floating them out to sea, problem solved and the rest can all get back to living again. No more curfews, hope Yo Yo Lego doesn’t read this.

No. Listening to docs in hospitals the older are not staying for weeks, before going to ICU before dying.
They require a little oxygen and move on after a few days.
The young need to get vaccinated to not be hospitalized to leave room for those that need it. The older raise their odds by being vaccinated.
 

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A COVID party, when I think of hospital staff.

Passengers who smoke electronic cigarettes in the cabin, others who drink their personal bottles of alcohol, dancing without masks and even sexual acts in the air, this is the ordeal experienced by flight attendants on December 30th.

According to our information, around 100 people boarded the Sunwing company plane.
The aircraft had been chartered by a private club that organized a trip from Montreal to Cancun, Mexico to celebrate New Year's Day ... far from Quebec sanitary measures.

I hope for severe penalties.
This must be a mistake I can’t see Quebecers doing this, must have been a Republican charter flight and they got the information wrong.
 
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No. Listening to docs in hospitals the older are not staying for weeks, before going to ICU before dying.
They require a little oxygen and move on after a few days.
The young need to get vaccinated to not be hospitalized to leave room for those that need it. The older raise their odds by being vaccinated.
I think you are inventing these stories to keep your illusion alive. So who are the 14 or 15 that are dying daily pray tell.
Statistics seem to be fine with you when they reflect your views, when they show the opposite you try to dissect it to disprove them. Like a dog with a bone that doesn’t want to let go lol.

Just a few months ago if there were a few break through cases with the vaccinated it made headlines.
Now vaxed people are getting infected by the thousands and are the majority in hospitals ( yes they are the majority of the population nobody is disputing that).
Vaccines are no where near as effective with the Omicron as they were with other variants so let’s stop this nonsense and excuses it is what it is.
Yes I still believe I have a better chance with the vaccines and that is the reason I have had all three shots, but I have always been a realist and reality is that eventually I will probably end up getting this shit no matter how many shots they pump into my arm.
 
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I think you are inventing these stories to keep your illusion alive. So who are the 14 or 15 that are dying daily prey tell.
Statistics seem to be fine with you when they reflect your views, when they show the opposite you try to dissect it to disprove them. Like a dog with a bone that doesn’t want to let go lol.

Just a few months ago if there were a few break through cases with the vaccinated it made headlines.
Now vaxed people are getting infected by the thousands and are the majority in hospitals ( yes they are the majority of the population nobody is disputing that).
Vaccines are no where near as effective with the Omicron as they were with other variants so let’s stop this nonsense and excuses it is what it is.
Yes I still believe I have a better chance with the vaccines and that is the reason I have had all three shots, but I have always been a realist and reality is that eventually I will probably end up getting this shit no matter how many shots they pump into my arm.

You sound like a person that is pissed off the vaccine is not a silver bullet that is going to cure cancer and solve world hunger.

Spoiler alert : it's not.
 

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You sound like a person that is pissed off the vaccine is not a silver bullet that is going to cure cancer and solve world hunger.

Spoiler alert : it's not.
No not in the least I am a realist. It would be nice however that it would do what it was intended for.
What pisses me off are people coming up with all kinds of arguments to try and disprove reality that is starring them in the face. I have been trying to tell you exactly that, that the vaccines are not a silver bullet not even close. They were effective against some strains but less and less with the newer ones.
I have lived through much worse than this pandemic and it doesn’t scare me nearly as much as you think.
 
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No not in the least I am a realist.
What pisses me off are people coming up with all kinds of arguments to try and disprove reality that is starring them in the face. I have been trying to tell you exactly that, that the vaccines are not a silver bullet not even close. They were effective against some strains but less and less with the newer ones.
I have lived through much worse than this pandemic and it doesn’t scare me nearly as much as you think.

I am not sure what reality I am trying to disprove.
None of the measures we have are a silver bullet. None.

The sum of the measures are the best we have.
I hear everyone bitching about them but nobody has anything better to offer.
 

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I am not sure what reality I am trying to disprove.
None of the measures we have are a silver bullet. None.

The sum of the measures are the best we have.
I hear everyone bitching about them but nobody has anything better to offer.
I have never bitched about the vaccines and as far as having something better to offer I don’t think any of us are specialized scientists in a position to offer something better, we post on an escort review board lol.
What I do bitch about to which I have a right as a taxpayer is the inability of our governments after two years of this to improve the health care system,
To add more staff more hospital beds, distribute rapid test kits to the population and N95 masks or at least have enough available to purchase at a reasonable cost.
I bitch about ineffective useless curfews that achieve nothing, stupid rules that are a joke like when during the first lockdown we could meet and talk to our family or anyone on the street but if they stepped onto our property it all of a sudden became illegal and we were liable to a hefty fine. Same thing now I can meet my children in a mall or Costco but not in my home lol.

What you keep harping on is that the vaccines are some kind of silver bullet or close to which they may have been with the first few variants but are certainly not with the last two. Every argument you have been making so far is a pro vaccine one, which I agree with just not to the extent that you are making it out to be.
 

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QUÉBEC...dernière heure.....emboîte le pas....période d'isolement POUR LES DOUBLEMENTS VACCINÉS passe de 10 à 5 jours.....et les tests PCR essentiellement réservés au personnel de la santé....LEGAULT ne devait pas aimer voir tous les jours d'interminables
files d'attente au froid dans les centres de dépistage....lollll......s'en remet aux tests rapides toujours pas disponibles ...bref.....c'est le JOYEUX BORDEL....my 2 cents.
 

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Monday January 3:

USA:
+ 1,000,000 k new cases

+ 100,000 hospitalizations

1643 dead
 

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Perhaps not all evidence from Israel is that the 4th dose is the magic formula.
If not, well apparently Yo Yo Lego is working on a plan of giving everyone a free pizza after your 8th booster shot as an incentive, you will be able to enjoy it all locked away as there will be a permanent curfew and all stores, borders will be closed.
Press conference daily at 6pm that everyone will have to show evidence that they watched as police will be making house calls and issuing fines.
In some States, people get paid to get vaccinated.
Apparently the amount is too low !
 
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