COVID's vaccine, by whom, when, effective? all around the vaccine

[sene5hos]

The vaccination index according to Léger has never been higher: 86% of Quebecers have been vaccinated or intend to be vaccinated, excellent news since better vaccination coverage makes it possible to reduce the transmission of COVID- 19 and to relax sanitary measures more quickly.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Just read this article about the Astra.

'Very little excuse' to continue to use AstraZeneca in Canada: infectious diseases specialist

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Studies found mixing vaccines causes more mild to moderate reactions. As I posted earlier, we are the research " studies ", change the theme as we go.

Mixing COVID-19 vaccine doses leads to more reactions, study finds (msn.com)

 

[CLOUD 500]

Just read this article about the Astra.

'Very little excuse' to continue to use AstraZeneca in Canada: infectious diseases specialist

Yep. Weird. Medical doctors say to stop AstraZeneca. Policitians still keep on saying to take it. Ontario and Alberta halted it. Communist Tam said to take it and so is Fidel Trudope. This whole thing was an advertising campaign since day one. So much money spent to repeat the same message. The politicians do not care they just want everyone vaccinated as fast a possible does not matter the side effects. I wonder if it is about surveillance and control because there is talks about a digital vaccination passport Quebec talked about a digital QR code.

 

[CLOUD 500]

I know it is just a few people but lets see what the future brings with this, I am still against taking this for a year or longer.

New Side Effect From mRNA COVID Vaccines? | MedPage Today

More stuff not readily available unless you search, why?

COVID-19 vaccine response blunted by common inflammatory bowel disease treatment | Imperial News | Imperial College London

Another rare complication to the mRNA vaccine is Myocarditis. It has been reported in Israel and is being investigated by European health. So far the Pfizer is denying it and the evidence is inconclusive. But some people died of this.

What You Might Experience After You Get Your COVID-19 Shot

Side effects of COVID-19 vaccines are typically mild or moderate and short-lived. Learn what you can expect—and what to do if you don't feel well.

www.health.com

Another reason why AstraZeneca should be halted all together. It has been linked in a rare nerve disorder called Guillain-Barre syndrome. That is why I am in no rush to get vaccinated. Science is kind of bs because these people do not know much about covid and less about the vaccine. All the side effects are coming out and we will see the full effect after 6 months especially after the second dose.

EU reviews reports of rare nerve disorder after AstraZeneca's COVID-19 shot

Europe's medicines regulator is reviewing reports of a rare nerve-degenerating disorder in people who received AstraZeneca's (AZN.L) COVID-19 shots, raising fresh questions about potential side-effects of the vaccine.

www.reuters.com

 

[GaryH]

How effective is the Johnson & Johnson vaccine? The entire New York Yankees team got the J&J vaccine. And yet 3 coaches, 1 player, and 4 of the traveling staff have come down with the virus. (Six of those infected are asymptomatic). There are 26 players and 9 coaches in the traveling party. I don't know how many additional staff. A small sample, but it doesn't give much confidence in the J&J vaccine.

 

[gallantca]

How effective is the Johnson & Johnson vaccine? The entire New York Yankees team got the J&J vaccine. And yet 3 coaches, 1 player, and 4 of the traveling staff have come down with the virus. (Six of those infected are asymptomatic). There are 26 players and 9 coaches in the traveling party. I don't know how many additional staff. A small sample, but it doesn't give much confidence in the J&J vaccine.

My understanding is it's quite good for protecting from serious illness.

NONE of the vaccines will prevent you from catching it, but if you do catch it you will be asymptomatic or mild symptoms. So they reduce the chance of catching it and significantly reduce the consequences of catching it.

Several people with Pfizer for example did catch the Indian Variant in Israel and one in Quebec

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^^ 96.4% of the Canadian population has not caught this virus either in over 16 months.

 

[gallantca]

^^^^^^ 96.4% of the Canadian population has not caught this virus either in over 16 months.

With lockdowns, restrictions, masking.....we managed to keep it at 96.4% And We still managed to take our healthcare system and deficit to the brink.

Don't like masks and restrictions ? Maybe we should go full Brazil mode ? Infect a huge % of the population and create more dangerous variants ?

Or maybe we should do like the UK ? With mass vaccination they got to 0 deaths

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^^^ Always find it interesting when people say we did so poor because no one was wearing masks or following protocol and then some say we did so well because we wore masks and followed protocol.
Just my opinion but ( and I have stated this before ) if we had the population density of Brazil for example ( 5th most densely populated in the world ) plus not having a good economy our numbers would be way up. Take Montreal and a much smaller town, some towns have zero cases and some have very few and if it is the same as the small BC towns I have been to very few wear masks with almost zero cases. As for the vaccine, it only arrived after a year and the percentage who caught this was even lower. We are lucky to have a wide open country and low amount of homeless.
Our deficit is beyond the brink, Trudeau did the worst with that in the world I think.

 

[gallantca]

^^^^^^^ Always find it interesting when people say we did so poor because no one was wearing masks or following protocol and then some say we did so well because we wore masks and followed protocol.

Personally, as a country I think the population did well. Not perfect, but pretty good. Yes, we had people that don't understand basic civism but they are a minority.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Found this today, South Africa covid-19 cases drop by 90% without the vaccine, maybe it just played itself out.

 

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Found this today, South Africa covid-19 cases drop by 90% without the vaccine, maybe it just played itself out.

First it is good news for them. But the demography is completely different there. Don't forget the average life expectancy there is only 65 years compared to 82 in Canada. Only 6% of the population is over 65. That is why there were less deaths there from the beginning of the pandemy. As we know the elderly are most at risk with COVID, it is not a surprise that, this time, with its young population Africa have a break.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^ Cases, not deaths.

 

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^^^^^ Cases, not deaths.

They got 55,000 deaths on 1,6 millions cases So 3,4% mortality. In Canada we got 25,000 for 1,3 millions cases So 1,9% mortality.
South Africa 58 millions people, Canada 38 millions.
Generally speaking it is assumed that South Africa statistics are under estimated by 50% relatively to cases and deaths.
Conclusion: your remark "cases not deaths" is worthless.

 

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Health and Health Care in South Africa, an article from The New England Journal of Medecine
You will understand why number relative to COVID are under-estimated, simply no ressources.

WIDENING DISPARITIES IN HEALTH CARE​

Annual per capita expenditure on health ranges from $1,400 in the private sector to approximately $140 in the public sector, and disparities in the provision of health care continue to widen.3 The national public health sector, staffed by some 30% of the doctors in the country, remains the sole provider of health care for more than 40 million people who are uninsured and who constitute approximately 84% of the national population. Approximately 16% of South Africans (8 million people) have private health insurance that provides access to health care from the remaining 70% of doctors who work full-time in the private sector. Up to 25% of uninsured people pay out of pocket for private-sector care. In recent years, permission for senior full-time staff in the public sector to spend a limited proportion of their time working in the private sector has diluted their public-service activities.

Many of the state hospitals are in a state of crisis,26 with much of the public health care infrastructure run down and dysfunctional as a result of underfunding, mismanagement, and neglect. This has been most visible in the Eastern Cape province27 but is also striking in other regions.3,6

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsr1405012

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Conclusion: your remark "cases not deaths" is worthless.

Funny, the article I posted was even titled cases, did you even watch it?
And you post a 2014 article, even more funny, grasping at straws?
Comprehension is important.
Question, when someone has a recipe for apple pie do you ask when the strawberries go in?

 

[sene5hos]

Vaccination: la stratégie du Québec saluée dans le monde

Le cardiologue et généticien américain Eric Topol a vanté mercredi l’approche québécoise et canadienne.

www.journaldequebec.com

Vaccination: Quebec's strategy hailed around the world.

While elsewhere, we advocated the administration of two injections as quickly as possible, Quebec has instead opted for as many people as possible to receive a first inoculation, even if it means delaying the second dose somewhat.
A bet that was initially criticized by many, but which seems to be paying off.

They could see that basically we had good protection after a first dose and we could afford to postpone the second.

In the end, this strategy initiated in Quebec was even adopted by the federal public health authorities.

High praise from a leading American cardiologist. American cardiologist and geneticist Eric Topol praised the Quebec and Canadian approach on Wednesday.
On Twitter, the scientist posted two graphics illustrating the success of this approach.

 

[sene5hos]

Anti-vaccine Pastor learns the hard way about science.

I love how these people as soon as they actually get sick they abandon prayer and go right to the scientist for help.
If you have set you mind on not listening to the experts, then there is nothing any of us can do. You need to start with an open mind base for meaningful discussion to take place. That is the problem with the MAGA crowd.

 

[sene5hos]

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The New York Times

Texas Hospital Workers Suspended Over Mandatory Vaccine Policy​

Jesus Jiménez and Niraj Chokshi
Wed., June 9, 2021, 8:13 a.m.·3 min read


Nearly 200 staff members at a Houston-area hospital were suspended for not following a policy that requires employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Their suspensions followed a protest by dozens of workers Monday night against the policy.

The hospital, Houston Methodist, had told employees that they had to be vaccinated by Monday or face suspension. Last month, 117 Houston Methodist employees filed a lawsuit against their employer over the vaccine policy.

While the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends health care workers get a flu shot, and some hospital systems require it, few companies have required COVID-19 shots, despite federal government guidance that says employers can mandate vaccines for on-site workers.