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Anna Bijou

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Your girlfriend would never refuse you fiv and dfk, and this is why the acronym gfe stands for, for an experience similar as you would have with your girlfriend.
That's kind of a weird statement and attitude. To say that your girlfriend would never refuse you. She could and it would be perfectly fine and she would still be your girlfriend. Again, dfk depends what it means for you. I don't know about anyone else but if my boyfriend's idea of dfk was like those I mentioned in a previous post, I would not hesitate to 'refuse' him.

Fiv also. Depends when and how. Just finger banging does absolutely zero. At the right moment and done right, Fiv is great.

You can't make statements about some services without the certainty that it means the same to everyone. Every woman is different, some more sensitive than others. Timing is also a factor. Some things feel good when you're turned on, but are not pleasant before then.

It's not a combo at McDonald's, it's someone's body and personal preference.
 

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Just like Flyingby, I'd love for you to tell us which agency forces the girls to accept fingers. I've never heard of an agency forcing girls to get fingered, but maybe you know more than we do, so enlighten us. Like, even in an actual real life situation with your own girlfriend, you are NOT entitled to literally anything of sexual nature whenever you want it. I know plenty of girlfriends who do not like fingers and their couple still works so they must be doing something well. There's a beautiful thing called consent and I strongly suggest you read about it because your post hides quite a few red flags and I don't want to say you're a person with an abusive mindset, but, like, you might be.

I personally have a love-hate relationship with fingers. It does sometimes feel really good but when it doesn't, it either feels like... boring, OR it really fucking hurts, man. I'm a very sensitive lady and I guess fingers are too "bone-y" and a lot of people just don't have a technique that vibes well with my body, not to mention the risk of infection, and the fact that I got my vagina cut (to the point of bleeding everywhere and having to take a few days off) by clients more than once... It hurts, it really does, and it takes income out of my wallet for a few days, and while I do let people finger me sometimes (either because I'm very turned on/like their technique or because they insist a lot and I know they have a merb account), I definitely prefer if someone plays with my clit instead. Anyone who has actually met me would agree that not fingering me does not take away from my service at all, lol.
Very valid points and it's always good to hear from the other side of the fence. I too find this post somewhat strange. I only do digits if a girl likes it...it does nothing to really stimulate me haha. I get pleasure from it only if the girl has pleasure, as soon as she tells me it's uncomfortable I back my hand out of there faster than the speed of light. Why on earth would you subject a sp or any partner to something they say they don't like? The mind boggles, especially with a paid session; sounds like a recipe for disaster. To claim that all GFE SPs should include digits as a basic part of the service sounds pretty weird.
Btw the outfit you are wearing in your avatar looks smoking hot!
 

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Just like us every provider is different, and can be different on any given day.
For some LFK is actually DFK. FIV I don’t think is part of GFE and like Julia says can be pleasant or not, it is not something that really interests me unless she absolutely asks for it.
For me if it feels good I don’t dwell on acronyms, I find if you treat a lady with respect and kindness your time with her will be fabulous. They know what turns a man on and will usually go out of their way to please you.
They appreciate return customers just like any other professional.
I have never had a bad experience with any of the ladies I have seen and one in particular is totally amazing every time I see her.
Then again perhaps I am just way too easy to please.
 

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I never took for granted FIV being included with GFE services. Even some PSE providers wont let you, some girls just dont like it, and some clients are just plain too rough or have dirty fingernails etc.
I agree to that statement. I believe it is both way. If I think the girl has hygiene issues, I don’t want to go down on her either so if the guy has long dirty fingernails, it is normal for a girl to refuse him. I try my best to keep myself clean, smelling good so I can have a large choice of services. It goes both ways.
 

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Here are some interesting DFK/YMMV tidbits when I was hobbying. Kind of boggles my mind but not going to dig into this too much though lol. Just funny sometimes thinking about it.. There were two SPs who would not do DFK and tongue play but they allowed anal and sometimes rough unlubricated. Something they would not do with their boyfriends. A good number of them enjoy lots of controlled aggression like slight choking and/or hair pulling during doggie yet only would allow slight pecks of LFK.
 

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No DFK, no go. Sex then becomes mechanical. I'd enjoy the session if the SP would kiss/cuddle having passion. If it's advertised DFK, you kiss and she turns away as if disgusted by your presence then that's cold (freshly showered/ mouthwash/ facial hair grooming/etc). Rock hard penis becomes flaccid in no time flat.
 

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No DFK, no go.
I hear you on this one, I used to be the same but over the years I've tempered down on the DFK/LFK. There are so many reasons for the girls to not wanting to do it. We've went through the hygiene factor several times but the other major reason for a lot of them is the intimacy side of it. They feel like it is not something to be offered lightly because it implies(not for all of them) an emotionaly charged action, normally reserved to more romantic relationships. So for me, trying to get it even when the signs are not there is way too close to forcing her to do something she doesn't agree to. Thats why I ask at the very start of the session and move on accordingly. I find that this way to do things takes a lot of unnecessary pressure away, for both parties.
 

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GFE - Girlfriend Experience. A non kissing girlfriend is odd. Sex is great, no doubt about it most guys yearn to achieve PIVMO (penis in vagina, male orgasm). Somehow I find it memorable to DFK, look into her eyes, say her name "I want to make love to you...", gently nibble her ears, softly kiss her neck, stroke her face/hair, main event. Heaven!
 

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GFE - Girlfriend Experience. A non kissing girlfriend is odd. Sex is great, no doubt about it most guys yearn to achieve PIVMO (penis in vagina, male orgasm). Somehow I find it memorable to DFK, look into her eyes, say her name "I want to make love to you...", gently nibble her ears, softly kiss her neck, stroke her face/hair, main event. Heaven!
I believe we are back to a “the importance of kissing” thread

timidguy. You seem to believe that dfk =kissing. When there could be lfk. Not all girlfriends dfk. Heck I don’t even dfk.
dfk is what teenagers who don’t know how to kiss do it because it’s what they think works
 

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dfk is what teenagers who don’t know how to kiss do it because it’s what they think works
:rolleyes:
I can't disagree more, since there is no consensus, here on merb(and in real life), on the definitions of lfk/dfk. For some, a simple rather wet kiss is lfk, for others if they dont feel their tonsils getting tickled its not a french kiss! Personnaly, if there is no tongue involved its not a fk at all.
 

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:rolleyes:
I can't disagree more, since there is no consensus, here on merb(and in real life), on the definitions of lfk/dfk. For some, a simple rather wet kiss is lfk, for others if they dont feel their tonsils getting tickled its not a french kiss! Personnaly, if there is no tongue involved its not a fk at all.
It’s a tale as old as escorting itself
Perb and terb have the same debate
And google dosen’t help either
 
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dfk is what teenagers who don’t know how to kiss do it because it’s what they think works

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I can't disagree more, since there is no consensus, here on merb(and in real life), on the definitions of lfk/dfk. For some, a simple rather wet kiss is lfk, for others if they dont feel their tonsils getting tickled its not a french kiss! Personnaly, if there is no tongue involved its not a fk at all.


But what he's saying is exactly what many people's interpretation of DFK is! That's the issue I've been talking about.

There's 'tongue involved' and there's 'tongue INVOLVED' LOL

But again, no consensus makes it hard to determine
 

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I have a question for fellow SP. When you girls refuse DFK, what are the most common reasons? Is that because of the client’s mouth odor?
Thank you
Actually I always found this strange as to why one would want DFK. I was sitting on the couch with one girl I saw (not many for me) having a conversation when she started to get close to me in order to kiss. I pulled back and said something like "No, I don't do that" Caught me off-guard and first thing that popped out of my head. In my mind I'm thinking this girl was probably sucking some guys dick an hour ago and he probably shot his load in her mouth. I don't mind any other parts of the body as those parts are usually covered, but I still get apprehensive about any kissing.
 

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Actually I always found this strange as to why one would want DFK. I was sitting on the couch with one girl I saw (not many for me) having a conversation when she started to get close to me in order to kiss. I pulled back and said something like "No, I don't do that" Caught me off-guard and first thing that popped out of my head. In my mind I'm thinking this girl was probably sucking some guys dick an hour ago and he probably shot his load in her mouth. I don't mind any other parts of the body as those parts are usually covered, but I still get apprehensive about any kissing.
Keep charming those ladies, Romeo. ;)
 

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I am still trying to figure out if it is LFK or DFK with my ATF, all I can say is she has no equal, so I really don’t care which acronym applies, it just feels damn good lol.
 

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I am still trying to figure out if it is LFK or DFK with my ATF, all I can say is she has no equal, so I really don’t care which acronym applies, it just feels damn good lol.

You're quite enamoured with your ATF Good for you that you found someone you enjoy so much.

You are totally on point. I can't tell what makes kissing LFK vs DFK.. I asked the question earlier but it was left unanswered. I'm suspecting that no one actually knows and that's why they are so insistent on DFK, assuming LFK means poor service.

I don`t use the terms DFK and LFK. I use only the term Kissing. If she is a great kisser I will mention it in my review.

Yep. There should be no LFK/DFK. Only kissing. I might just start answering like that when asked about DFK.

"I don't know what the official meaning of dfk actually is but I do offer kissing." BAM.
 
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Now I remember.....

I got denied once. This was the second meeting with a girl who was great on my first time meeting her. She was aggressive on the DFK department with all that deep tongue play and all. Then on the second time I saw her a few months later the whole thing just dropped down a few notches to the point of why even bother. Then after some talk she stated she got a boyfriend and she is still banging for $$$ and he doesn't know that she was doing this. Doh! She started getting upset, I took half of the donation and her meal as it was a dinner engagement and sent her home.
 

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You're quite enamoured with your ATF Good for you that you found someone you enjoy so much.

You are totally on point. I can't tell what makes kissing LFK vs DFK.. I asked the question earlier but it was left unanswered. I'm suspecting that no one actually knows and that's why they are so insistent on DFK, assuming LFK means poor service.
She is a gorgeous and kind young lady, I am very lucky to have found her.
I have been seeing her for a number of years and she is a friend and an amazing person, I have only known one other person that could kiss like her and with her I spent a life time.
 
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