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Sol Tee Nutz

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Have to agree with Doc, the Habs scoring is going down hill. Defence does win cups but you do need to score some goals.
 

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Le Canadien a procédé à un échange surprenant en envoyant Mikhail Sergachev à Tampa Bay en retour de Jonathan Drouin. Le Tricolore reçoit aussi un choix conditionnel de 6e ronde en 2018 alors que c’est un choix conditionnel de 2e tour en 2018 qui prend la route de Tampa. La condition est la suivante; si Sergachev joue 40 matchs pour le Lightning l’an prochain, il n’y a pas d’échange de choix. Sinon, les deux équipes vont s’échanger ces sélections.

C’est une transaction surprenante puisqu’on ne pensait pas que le Tricolore était prêt à se défaire de Mikhail Sergachev après l’avoir choisi au 9e échelon du repêchage l’an passé. Par contre, on savait que c’est le joueur que toutes les autres équipes demandaient lorsque Bergevin appelait et il a donc dû le céder pour faire l’acquisition de Jonathan Drouin, qui a quand même le potentiel d’être un joueur étoile québécois à Montréal, ce qui est extrêmement rare.

Drouin avait déjà été lié au Canadien dans des rumeurs de transaction, mais on pensait devoir céder Alex Galchenyuk pour l’obtenir. Bergevin a plutôt opté de sacrifier le futur de sa défense, ce qui est très surprenant considérant ses priorités dans un alignement, mais j’imagine que quand tu as la chance d’aller chercher un joueur local aussi dynamique offensivement, tu es prêt à bouger tes priorités un peu.

L’attaquant québécois était disponible parce que comme Galchenyuk, il était agent libre avec restriction et ses dernières négociations avec le Lightning ne s’étaient vraiment pas bien passées. Ce sera donc un autre dossier à régler pour Bergevin, mais j’imagine que s’il a fait son acquisition, il a une bonne idée des demandes du joueur, qui pourrait aussi lui offrir un rabais parce que les offres de commanditaires vont amplement bonifier son salaire à Montréal.

En 73 rencontres l’an passé, Drouin a récolté 21 buts et 32 passes, ce qui est très solide pour un joueur de 21 ans dans la LNH (il a eu 22 vers la fin du mois de mars). C’est toutefois bon de mentionner que contrairement à Sergachev, il doit être protégé au repêchage d’expansion et c’est probablement une autre raison pour laquelle le Lightning était prêt à le transiger.
 

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Have to agree with Doc, the Habs scoring is going down hill. Defence does win cups but you do need to score some goals.

Les Pingouins ont prouvé lors des deux dernières saisons que la défensive pouvait être plus faible et l'équipe quand même triompher.
Bergevin a obtenu un attaquant spectaculaire qui veut jouer pour Montréal.
 

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I do not agree Ocean. What the Habs need is many Quebecois players like in the old days. Not just one or 2 who get grilled and raped at any single mistake or if they have 2 games in a row without a goal...
Having 7 or 8 in the team (or 13 like in 93 ;) ) would help a lot.

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,,,et l'arrivée de Jonathan Drouin devrait amener du punch à l'attaque....ce dont les Habs ont grandement besoin.....Drouin est un joueur talentueux et robuste......bonne acquisition de Bergevin.
 

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I do not agree Ocean. What the Habs need is many Quebecois players like in the old days.

Cheers,

You can not build a Stanley cup team based on where the players come from, a team must pick the best player available to them. If the Habs end up with zero Quebecers to make a winning yeam so be it. As for the Quebec media and fans for sports teams, brutal, very hard to play in this city unless you win all the time.
 

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Les Pingouins ont prouvé lors des deux dernières saisons que la défensive pouvait être plus faible et l'équipe quand même triompher.
Bergevin a obtenu un attaquant spectaculaire qui veut jouer pour Montréal.

I keep hearing this. But their defence was still miles ahead of Montreal's and half the teams in the league. Sure, they didn't have Kris Letang but it's a very long season and all teams must find a way to deal with injuries. The Penguins did and won the Cup. But let's be honest: they never would have won the Cup had it not been for Sidney Crosby, who is still the best hockey player on the planet. Put Sidney Crosby with the habs or any other team with an average defence and that team may have been playing for the Cup a few days ago.
 

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You can not build a Stanley cup team based on where the players come from, a team must pick the best player available to them. If the Habs end up with zero Quebecers to make a winning yeam so be it. As for the Quebec media and fans for sports teams, brutal, very hard to play in this city unless you win all the time.

I agree with STN. You have to draft and acquire the best talent available. This is no longer a 6-team league where teams such as the habs could get away with carrying more local or french-speaking players on their roster (thanks to that unfair clause where they had first-choice at players in their province/territory).

Although it's easy to dream, i think having more Quebecois or french-speaking players in Montreal may have an opposite-effect today and be detrimental to a player's development. Players in major markets such as Montreal and Toronto are always over-hyped and often given underserved praise. Many average players are given the superstar treatment and it often goes to their heads. In Toronto they call this the 'Blue & White Disease'. I don't know if someone ever called it something in Montreal, so i'll give it the name 'Bleu Blanc Rouge Disease'.

I'm not sure Drouin will thrive in Montreal. He won't be surrounded with offensively gifted players (Stamkos, Kucherov, Johnston, Palat, etc) like he had in Tampa. In Montreal, he will be pressured to perform and made to feel like the team's success resides on his shoulders. He'll be the face of the team. His play and especially his personal life will be put under a microscope every single day. Some players enjoy the attention and thrive under it (e.g. PK Subban) while many others don't and choke under the tremendous pressure. He's still very young and this may not be a good thing in this market and how much the team has struggled offensively over the past few years. He needs to be better surrounded. However, the team has few bargaining chips available to acquire the number of quality players Drouin would require. When the team will win, he'll be on cloud 9 and Montreal will be the best place on the planet to play hockey. But when the team will lose and struggle, it'll be pure hell and why many players have chosen to play elsewhere.

Some may already be aware of this, but many Tampa Bay area newspapers were ecstatic when the trade was announced. They were rejoicing!! Most were saying "good riddance!!" and that the team finally got rid of a big "problem" by trading Drouin. As for Sergachev, he'll likely start the year in the minors and likely join the team halfway into the season. He cannot play 40 games or else that 2nd round draft pick going to Tampa next season is void. So Tampa will be very patient with him. That 2nd-round pick in 2018 may be huge since the years 2018-19-20 are projected to be great draft years and very deep according to the experts, so that 2nd-rounder acquired by Tampa from the habs may be just like acquiring a first-round pick in a regular draft year.
 

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Habs trade Nathan Beaulieu to Buffalo for a third-round pick in this year's draft

Nate the Great is no longer as great as he thought he was!!! Only a third-round pick in one of the worse draft years ever?? Give me a break!!!
 

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Shit he was really that bad or what? I dont get it please someone explain! Bergevin cannot be that bad as well?

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Shit he was really that bad or what? I dont get it please someone explain! Bergevin cannot be that bad as well?

Several people close to the league whom i spoke with tonight tell me Mtl made a good deal....addition by substraction. He supposedly has a reputation to be a huge party animal with zero focus on hockey and many believe he's a cancer and won't dare touch him. It must be true since as a GM i would have been more than happy to give a 2nd-round draft pick from this year's draft for him....maybe more.

But what do i know, right?

Yes, Montreal literally gave him away. But it seems that everyone i've spoken with tell me that Mtl (or any team) is better off without him or his father sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. We'll see.
 

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Il était évident que Beaulieu n'avait plus sa place à Montréal.....maintenant voyons ce qui va arriver avec Galcheyniuk.......va t-il être échangé...ou si libéré de Beaulieu il va retrouver sa concentration sur le hockey......à suivre.
 

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Protection list is out:

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Thanks Doc......suis surpris de constater que les Habs conservent Benn et sont prêts à laisser partir Markov......vraiment surprenant.
 

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Markov and his agent said he will retire if he as to move, so no one will aquire him. He wants to play one last season in Montreal and that's it.

He has to take care of 2 kids now, it's montreal or russia for him.

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Thanks Doc......suis surpris de constater que les Habs conservent Benn et sont prêts à laisser partir Markov......vraiment surprenant.

They weren't going to protect him since he's UFA and doesn't have a contract. Just like Radulov. Same thing with San Jose's Joe Thornton and Patrick Marleau.
 

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Markov and his agent said he will retire if he as to move, so no one will aquire him. He wants to play one last season in Montreal and that's it.

He has to take care of 2 kids now, it's montreal or russia for him.

Four kids. A teenage son with a Russian woman, his twin sons with his now deceased Russian ex, and now a young daughter with his current girlfriend. In other words, four kids with three different mothers. Nice. Mother's Day must be a very confusing time in the Markov household.
 

Doc Holliday

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Markov and his agent said he will retire if he as to move, so no one will aquire him. He wants to play one last season in Montreal and that's it.

Vegas could acquire him in order to trade him back to Montreal for a draft pick. But Vegas would be crazy not to take Charles Hudon instead.
 
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