In my view also Weber is the best candidate BUT as he is out for at least December...am pretty sure it will be vacant.....mais Perdgevin songe avec l'idée de répartir cette responsabilité entre quelques joueurs....et c'est probablement ce qui va se produire.
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I am not sure I follow your reasoning. Are you suggesting that Weber should be made Captain when he returns in December? What happens when he gets injured again two games after he comes back, do you then take it away from him? This is the problem in extending a captaincy to him and why Markov, a horse with much longer tenure, would have been a good Captaincy candidate his last 2-3 years in Montreal.
You absolutely should never want as Captain a continually banged up and injured player who is breaking down like a 2007 Dodge Nitro. No matter how good he is. Because if you can’t suit him up it doesn’t matter.
I am not sure I follow your reasoning. Are you suggesting that Weber should be made Captain when he returns in December? What happens when he gets injured again two games after he comes back, do you then take it away from him? This is the problem in extending a captaincy to him and why Markov, a horse with much longer tenure, would have been a good Captaincy candidate his last 2-3 years in Montreal.
You absolutely should never want as Captain a continually banged up and injured player who is breaking down like a 2007 Dodge Nitro. No matter how good he is. Because if you can’t suit him up it doesn’t matter.
One name i forgot who could get consideration for the captaincy......TOMAS PLEKANEC.
Pleky is probably still the team's best centre and he's a long-time habs veteran. He is well-liked by management and the rest of the players on the team.
Sure he's not PK Subban in front of the cameras but neither are Gallagher and Weber.
Pleky is probably still the team's best centre and he's a long-time habs veteran. He is well-liked by management and the rest of the players on the team.
Sure he's not PK Subban in front of the cameras but neither are Gallagher and Weber.
Yeah I agree for sure, if it isn't Gally or Weber then they will surely keep it vacant. Pleky is interesting but he probably won't be here long enough. Cheers guys
Do you really think Weber will ever play 80 games in a season again? I got cash money that says he never plays more than 65 games in a season ever again. Again, the "C" means shit if the guy cannot suit up and wear the uniform- it is functionally equivalent to having no captain at all.
Agreed on all counts.
Agreed. The 'C' doesn't mean shit. It's a ridiculous obsession by the hockey world. In other sports i've only heard about the captaincy in baseball and only when it comes to the Red Sox and the Yankees. I only heard about Jason Varitek being the team's captain because he was banging the hot reporter following the team. And i constantly heard about Jeter being captain from watching Yankee broadcasts since they'd mention it every time he came up to bad. No clue who's their captain today or on the Red Sox. Nor do i care since it's bullshit anyway. Never heard about a captain in other baseball teams, in all NBA, NFL & soccer.
Doc,
As I mentioned previously I think the Captaincy, at least with the Yankees, is a largely ceremonial position that is designed to honor the player rather than create a leadership role for the player. In Jeter’s case I think he may have been a leader more by example. It is like the Queen of England. She has no political power or leadership role but performs ceremonial tasks for England.
I heard an interesting story about Don Mattingly and Derek Jeter, both former Yankees captains, who work together now as Manager and CEO/Director of Baseball Operations of the Miami Marlins. In spring training 1995, when Mattingly was in his last season as a Captain and Jeter was a minor league player invited to camp, they were playing catch in the outfield at the Yankees spring training complex. When they finished the catch, Mattingly said to Jeter, “let’s run full speed back to the dugout.” When Jeter asked why, Mattingly said, “you never know who might be watching.” That statement was made for Jeter’s benefit and Jeter never forgot it.
The Yankees captaincy was vacant from 1995 after Mattingly retired until 2003 when Jeter was named Captain. Jeter remained Captain until he retired in 2014 and has been vacant ever since.
As I mentioned previously I think the Captaincy, at least with the Yankees, is a largely ceremonial position that is designed to honor the player rather than create a leadership role for the player. In Jeter’s case I think he may have been a leader more by example. It is like the Queen of England. She has no political power or leadership role but performs ceremonial tasks for England.
I heard an interesting story about Don Mattingly and Derek Jeter, both former Yankees captains, who work together now as Manager and CEO/Director of Baseball Operations of the Miami Marlins. In spring training 1995, when Mattingly was in his last season as a Captain and Jeter was a minor league player invited to camp, they were playing catch in the outfield at the Yankees spring training complex. When they finished the catch, Mattingly said to Jeter, “let’s run full speed back to the dugout.” When Jeter asked why, Mattingly said, “you never know who might be watching.” That statement was made for Jeter’s benefit and Jeter never forgot it.
The Yankees captaincy was vacant from 1995 after Mattingly retired until 2003 when Jeter was named Captain. Jeter remained Captain until he retired in 2014 and has been vacant ever since.
Deslauriers out pour au moins un mois ... fracture de la mâchoire suite à un combat complètement inutile hier soir......les boys vous êtes en games pré-saison....inutile d'en faire plus pour impressionner...la saison est déjà longue ...ne courez pas après le trouble inutilement.
Domi should have been suspended for 10 regular season games. That type of transgression has to be financially penalized. It’s like they don’t want to take money out of his pocket or something.
He also should have to pay for Ekbland’s medical bills.
He also should have to pay for Ekbland’s medical bills.
Ulf admitted that he said " Hey Tie Dummy, wanna fight " ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcnbaqWqqI
Looking back, Ulf was quite a dirty player ( ask anyone in Boston )
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Smuler
Ekblad is a "Class A" pussy!
The problem in all this - and its quite unfortunate - is that Domi is playing for a bunch of LOSERS!!!...a LOSER organization from top to bottom!
The problem in all this - and its quite unfortunate - is that Domi is playing for a bunch of LOSERS!!!...a LOSER organization from top to bottom!
sharkman
I actually think he's smart. Knowing what we know about head injuries & CTE it's crazy to think any player would agree to fight another player over frivolous reasons. Better to turn the other cheek instead of risking of winding up in a 'home' for invalids at the age of 50.
I actually think he's smart. Knowing what we know about head injuries & CTE it's crazy to think any player would agree to fight another player over frivolous reasons. Better to turn the other cheek instead of risking of winding up in a 'home' for invalids at the age of 50.
Vivement le début de la saison....quel match sans saveur et sans grande détermination livrée par les Habs hier vs les Sens......2 équipes qui vont se battre pour la dernière position...et Price qui accorde 3 buts sur 21 tirs après en avoir accordé 5 face aux Leafs sur à peine plus de tirs...il reprend là ou il a laissé
la saison dernière...la saison va être très très longue ici à Montréal....et quand nos espoirs reposent sur un jeune de 18 ans Kotkaniemi qui a bien fait en matchs présaison mais dont le talent est encore à être démontré dans la grande ligue.....cela en dit beaucoup sur la valeur des Habs...anyway bonne saison.
la saison dernière...la saison va être très très longue ici à Montréal....et quand nos espoirs reposent sur un jeune de 18 ans Kotkaniemi qui a bien fait en matchs présaison mais dont le talent est encore à être démontré dans la grande ligue.....cela en dit beaucoup sur la valeur des Habs...anyway bonne saison.
I believe the Senators might surprise a few people this season. They very well may not make the playoffs but i have a feeling they'll play much better than expected.
As for the habs it'll be a very long season. Carey Price is entering his brand new 8 year contract worth $10.5 million per season and he's looked very ordinary throughout this pre-season. I also doubt he'll be happy this season knowing full well the team is in rebuilding mode and that he'll literally be facing a firing squad game after game.
From what i've seen of him these past couple of years or so is that he seems unable to accept failure & a struggling team. The timing doesn't seem right for him & the habs right now. The last thing this supposedly "rebuilding" team needs is a malcontent veteran goaltender entering the first of eight years of what is the biggest contract ever given to a goaltender in the history of hockey. He'll once again be a bad apple around the team & that's the last thing the team and its young players need.
The other key veteran on the team (Shea Weber) is out until mid-december (at least) and that's not good. Not only is he one of the team's best players & top defencemen, but he's one of few leaders on this team. He also has a big contract which only expires 8 years from now and the fact he'll be out for a while means he likely can't be traded until next year. That's if a team out there doesn't mind having such a big contract to deal with, that is. My guess is that the habs would have to eat a large part of his contract should they manage to find a team out there willing to make a trade.
Same goes for Price. I don't know many teams out there who are hungry enough to pay an aging veteran goaltender $10.5 million per season for the next 8 years. Again my guess is that the habs would have to eat some of his contract should they ever find a willing partner to trade for him. But Price also has a full no-trade clause in his contract meaning he'd have to veto it (for a price) should the team ever want to trade him & you can bet he'd be chosing which team he'd agree to be traded to.
From my perspective it looks like the habs are stuck with Carey Price & Carey Price is stuck with the habs. He's literally untradeable because of that huge contract and his age & recent history in regards to performance and injury.
As for KK (Kotkaniemi) i have no problem with the team keeping him with them for a certain number of games, as long as he's sent back to Europe or to Laval a month or two from now. He's still a raw rookie and 18 years old. Considering how much the team will struggle these next couple of years it would make no sense to keep him for the entire year. If so they'll end up ruining him like they've ruined other young players they weren't patient enough with.
As for the habs it'll be a very long season. Carey Price is entering his brand new 8 year contract worth $10.5 million per season and he's looked very ordinary throughout this pre-season. I also doubt he'll be happy this season knowing full well the team is in rebuilding mode and that he'll literally be facing a firing squad game after game.
From what i've seen of him these past couple of years or so is that he seems unable to accept failure & a struggling team. The timing doesn't seem right for him & the habs right now. The last thing this supposedly "rebuilding" team needs is a malcontent veteran goaltender entering the first of eight years of what is the biggest contract ever given to a goaltender in the history of hockey. He'll once again be a bad apple around the team & that's the last thing the team and its young players need.
The other key veteran on the team (Shea Weber) is out until mid-december (at least) and that's not good. Not only is he one of the team's best players & top defencemen, but he's one of few leaders on this team. He also has a big contract which only expires 8 years from now and the fact he'll be out for a while means he likely can't be traded until next year. That's if a team out there doesn't mind having such a big contract to deal with, that is. My guess is that the habs would have to eat a large part of his contract should they manage to find a team out there willing to make a trade.
Same goes for Price. I don't know many teams out there who are hungry enough to pay an aging veteran goaltender $10.5 million per season for the next 8 years. Again my guess is that the habs would have to eat some of his contract should they ever find a willing partner to trade for him. But Price also has a full no-trade clause in his contract meaning he'd have to veto it (for a price) should the team ever want to trade him & you can bet he'd be chosing which team he'd agree to be traded to.
From my perspective it looks like the habs are stuck with Carey Price & Carey Price is stuck with the habs. He's literally untradeable because of that huge contract and his age & recent history in regards to performance and injury.
As for KK (Kotkaniemi) i have no problem with the team keeping him with them for a certain number of games, as long as he's sent back to Europe or to Laval a month or two from now. He's still a raw rookie and 18 years old. Considering how much the team will struggle these next couple of years it would make no sense to keep him for the entire year. If so they'll end up ruining him like they've ruined other young players they weren't patient enough with.
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