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1 The law was not the result of political pressure but an obligation imposed by the courts.

2 The radical left wing feminists had 0 influence on the conservative government. They were simply used as sales representatives. The Evangelicals had a lot more influences.

3 Long lived religious organisations like the Y are still very active in the rescue industry. They have more money than most secular organizations that are smaller. I haven't looked at the distribution of the 20M$ that came with the law, but I would bet that at least half of it went to church driven organisations.

4 Radical feminism of both the left and the right was more influential in France and Sweden.

Absolutely correct.
 

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Much ado about nothing.
 

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Just announcing that they might be cracking down has scared off half the clients. I will bet you there will be a few more announcements.
 

CaptRenault

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Just announcing that they might be cracking down has scared off half the clients. I will bet you there will be a few more announcements.

If it's true that feminists and politicians making "announcements" :rolleyes: can scare off "half the clients," :fear:then we're doomed. :lol:

My advice to clients is: ignore the scaremongers and hire an escort tonight. Just stick to well-reviewed agencies and indies. But I would not be surprised to see a LE sting in the near future using backpage.com, annonce123 or a cop pretending to be a streetwalker.
 

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During the F1 Grand Prix weekend, some girls ran away from the Laval Youth Center

Again?
Maybe it's time to investigate why the Laval youth center is so horrible that it causes girls to run away from it all the time!
:rolleyes:

Those behind the anti-prostitution campaign had hoped that the disappearance of the girls meant that they "...had been lured into the sex trade that accompanies the Grand Prix." The truth turned out to be that "...police haven't turned up any evidence of that being the case."

Teen's temporary disappearance from group home raised fears of F1 sex trade
Montreal police and human rights groups have been warning about F1's impact on sex trafficking
CBC News Jun 11, 2016 4:41 PM ET

A teenage girl who fled a youth centre in Laval on Friday night has been located.

The 16-year-old girl's mother had reached out to Radio-Canada on Saturday morning, expressing fear she had been lured into the sex trade that accompanies the Grand Prix.
Laval police provided few details about the case, except to say the girl was in good health and had returned on her own accord.

Earlier this week, a human rights groups launched an awareness campaign about the increase in human trafficking and sexual exploitation that occurs during the popular F1 race. Montreal police are also campaigning about the dangers of the sex trade this weekend...

...Police would not confirm that the 16-year-old girl who went missing Friday was a resident at the youth centre.

They did, however, say that four teenagers — three girls and one boy — have disappeared from Laval since Thursday. Some of these teenagers have run away in the past, police said.
"Because the F1 is in town, that doesn't necessarily mean that's where they are," said Laval police spokesman Franco Di Genova.

Police locate 2 more missing Laval teens
2 additional teens still being sought by police
CBC News Jun 12, 2016 11:45 AM ET

Montreal police have located two teenage girls who disappeared from Laval late last week.

Laval police said the girls were found in separate locations in Montreal. They have since returned home.

A total of five teens went missing from Laval between Thursday and Friday. One returned home Saturday afternoon. Two teens — one boy and one girl — are still being sought.

"We're very confident we will find them," said Franco Di Genova, a Laval police spokesman. "It might take another day or so, but we will find them."

Di Genova wouldn't provide further details about where police are looking for the remaining teens, so as not to compromise the investigation.

The mother of the teen who returned home Saturday initially expressed fears that her daughter had been lured by the sex trade that accompanies the F1 Grand Prix in Montreal.

But Di Genova said police haven't turned up any evidence of that being the case.

"At this point, nothing makes us believe that they're involved either in an escort service or prostitution," he said.



 

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Maybe if the parents did a better job of raising their kids, they wouldn't have wound up in these shelters in the first place! I know it's not as easy as it sounds, but the blame has to start somewhere. If the kids wind up in shelters and others under the control of gangs, something must have gone wrong prior to this.

As for prostitution and LE, prostitution has been among us for over two thousand years, probably more. And it will likely be around hundreds and thousands of years from now (unless Americans make the mistake of electing that fool Trump). The same discussion about prostitution and LE comes up every single year at around this time. A remember a few years ago, Photo Police (local tabloid based on local crime) had on its front page a picture of a couple of streetwalkers with a checkered flag and the headline "La Course aux Putes: Ca debute!!!" The article talked about the same b.s. and even named several popular agencies at the time which were prominent on the web....merb was even mentioned....and it probably treated every male person who came for GP weekend like a pervert.

The local government has bigger problems to deal with. Of course they'll say the politically correct things to appease the feminist groups causing all the brouhaha, but they've been there before and were laughed out of court....especially after the two cops (1 male, 1 female) who went undercover admitted under oath in court that they also had participated in group sex activities (while undercover!) in various clubs (e.g. L'Orage, etc) who organized such events. It destroyed any credibility they had and the prosecutors were blamed for wasting tax payers' money.

And how can they be expected to legitimately police this when some of their own also occasionally see escorts?? Years ago, one of my favorites at the time had seen this john a few times. The last time she saw him, he asked her if she was working the following day. When she said she may, he got serious and told her "please don't work tomorrow." When she asked him why, he repeated "please don't work tomorrow". She found his comment odd and decided not to work. The next thing you know, the agency got busted by LE on the day she didn't go to work. Years later, she regarded her client cop as a guardian angel. Had she not ever met him, her life may have took a turn for the worse.
 

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It's not very clear to me why the teens are sent to this youth Centre in Laval in the first place. Is it a facility for juvenile delinquents or youthful offenders who are not incarcerated with general prison populations? Is it a halfway house for those with substance abuse issues? What is this facility's mission and purpose?
 

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Earlier this week, a human rights groups launched an awareness campaign about the increase in human trafficking and sexual exploitation that occurs during the popular F1 race. Montreal police are also campaigning about the dangers of the sex trade this weekend...

The mother of the teen who returned home Saturday initially expressed fears that her daughter had been lured by the sex trade that accompanies the F1 Grand Prix in Montreal.
Maybe if the parents did a better job of raising their kids, they wouldn't have wound up in these shelters in the first place! I know it's not as easy as it sounds, but the blame has to start somewhere. If the kids wind up in shelters and others under the control of gangs, something must have gone wrong prior to this.

Ahhh yes, the evil sex trade lured their precious daughters away from them. This is easier than admitting their failures as parents. Maybe they should have taken an interest in your child's life. A good parent is involved. They make sure that their children get a good basic education so that they can move on to learn a useful and marketable skill (not some liberal arts left wing gobbledygook) or steer them toward a trade school. This means getting to know your child, spending time with them, making sure they do not fall in with the wrong crowd, having the balls to punish them or change schools if the kid is not doing well. etc. But this is too much work. Spit kids out, collect welfare if you can, ignore them, pawn them off on others and blame the evil sex industry when they don't turn out right and run away. This is why, in some cases when I am asked about abortion, I am not pro choice or pro life. I think for some pieces of shit abortion should be mandatory.
 

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Ahhh yes, the evil sex trade lured their precious daughters away from them. This is easier than admitting their failures as parents. Maybe they should have taken an interest in your child's life. A good parent is involved. They make sure that their children get a good basic education so that they can move on to learn a useful and marketable skill (not some liberal arts left wing gobbledygook) or steer them toward a trade school.

This is very judgemental. You got no idea why these girls choose to work in the sex trade to begin with... It could be a gazillions reasons. I have known girls from well off families work as sex workers. I meet this one stripper who also escorted her mother was a doctor and was very conservative and strict a church type women but her daughter well she rebelled completely. Got a tattoo at the age of 16, got pregnant at the age of 17. Parents can only do so much as much as these girls are young there are also to blame. Some of these girls got these types of personalities or get involved in a bad crowd. Who knows for sure. Point is you cannot blame parents on everything. It could even be these girls were convinced to work as sex workers by pimps. Finally these right wing conservative and religious people are more concerned with people following traditional values and indoctrination. There lies a problem in socio economic issues. Also with the current hip hop culture and the sexualization of women it is much more acceptable now then it was 30 years ago to work as a sex worker. It is kind of a fad.
 

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This is very judgemental. You got no idea why these girls choose to work in the sex trade to begin with... It could be a gazillions reasons. I have known girls from well off families work as sex workers. I meet this one stripper who also escorted her mother was a doctor and was very conservative and strict a church type women but her daughter well she rebelled completely. Got a tattoo at the age of 16, got pregnant at the age of 17. Parents can only do so much as much as these girls are young there are also to blame. Some of these girls got these types of personalities or get involved in a bad crowd. Who knows for sure. Point is you cannot blame parents on everything. It could even be these girls were convinced to work as sex workers by pimps. Finally these right wing conservative and religious people are more concerned with people following traditional values and indoctrination. There lies a problem in socio economic issues. Also with the current hip hop culture and the sexualization of women it is much more acceptable now then it was 30 years ago to work as a sex worker. It is kind of a fad.

I was talking about the detention center.

But you have a point. I have seen good parents have bad kids who just have a penchant for running into trouble. I also agree with Patron. We have adopted this zero tolerance policy for a child that brands them as criminals for transgressing laws that are really rites of passage if you ask me. Drinking below age of 21 with cops busting down doors to ticket people for having .01 alcohol? Drunk driving for a minor at .01 % alcohol I amcertainly not for emptying the prisons for hardened criminals that copped down to possesion but there has to be some common sense used in sentencing.

Back to the point. No one wants to take responsibility for themselves or children. The parent's fear that the child was lured away by the evil sex industry, for example. Please watch season 7 episode 13 of South Park. It is the Smoking abolitionist episode where Rob Reiner comes to Southpark to impose his will on others. And it demonstrates what a zealot will do because they can't stand the thought of anyone doing somthing that they don't agree with like smoking. They will stop at nothing to put an end to smoking and the ends justify the means. Watch the episode and apply what you see to the anti-prostitution lobbyists. They are just like Rob Reiner. If they have to lie and ruin lives so be it.

It has been my experience, in the USA, that it is the militant feminist on the left that is the most adradent abolitionist and supporter of the Nordic model. They didn't get asekd to the prom and no one wanted to fuck them and Hell Hath no fury like a woman scorned. They appear to me to be scorned woman...unfortunate looking woman who no one ever wanted to have sex with who are taking this misfortune out on men.
 

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I did not see any reports of arrests of consensual sex workers or their clients. If anything it seemed the agencies and indies were out in full force. They run these grand prix media campaigns every year... fortunately it appears they leave the vast consensual segment of the industry alone.

I was also encouraged to see a few media articles discussing both sides of the story, like these. Kudos to Stella.

http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...tation-sexuelle-femmes-grand-prix-debat.shtml
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/stella-sex-work-grand-prix-exploitation-1.3631636
 
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