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rumpleforeskiin

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And second, after a while, if the interminable session of answering to emails/phones is too much for her
she will finish to raise her donation, and have a comfortable level of demands or
return back to an agency, discouraged by all the management part.
Certainly, Maria, there are those girls who may become discouraged or put off by having to manage their own business, but for those that do and who keep their rates the same as at the agency, they end up making an extra $40-$60 per hour by handling their own affairs AND they get to control who they see and who they don't.
 

cloudsurf

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FYI guys....Bianka is already under pressure from her "competitors" to raise her rates.
She is stubborn enough and brite enough to stay the course...at least for a while.
Good luck babe !!.... you are on my list too.
 

man77777

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for those that do and who keep their rates the same as at the agency, they end up making an extra $40-$60 per hour by handling their own affairs.

I don't think so, with all the expenses..

Moreover she will lose in comfort, safety and time... Sp need a lot of courage to become indy, that why we have to support them when they keep under 200$ rates...
 

ManApart

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Of course, for some member of Merb who are writing in this thread,
I can understand all your concerns about the levels of donations,
because for you, who have written, it seems than something like 40-60$ is a big concern for your budget,
much more of which lady/girl you want to spend time with.

For you, as I can see, this girl or another one for you, doesn't make any difference at the end.

You really don't care, and that's good food for thought, for me,

and probably too, for all the girls/ladies who are reading you.


I detect some condescension in your post.

$40-$60 is not a big concern for any few occassions, but if it gets changed across the board $40-$60 can become $2000-$3000 if you see one girl a week, per year. What if you see 2 or more girls a week like me? Although, I have slowed down some.

And of course which girl we spend time with makes a difference; that is why we don't want to be priced out from seeing some of the really good ones. At the same time, some of the really good ones are still priced $200 and under, so in drawing a line and trying to not let things change for reasons I mentioned above, we are saying we will see the great girls at X amount of dollars and pass on the great ones at Y. You see, we still want to see the great SPs and certainly are concerned with who we are with, it's just that bugetary concerns do come into play as well. It's possible to think about both issues when making a decision on who to see.

It's like the old saying mothers used to (still?) tell their daughters decades ago. It's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man than a poor one. Well, it's just as easy to see great SPs at under $200 than over. The daughters still want great husbands and we still want to see great girls. So, I don't think saying all guys care about is saving a few bucks, it doesn't make a difference who they are with, is a fair statement.
 

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Moreover she will lose in comfort, safety and time... Sp need a lot of courage to become indy, that why we have to support them when they keep under 200$ rates...

Safety?? What a joke!

People who believe it's safer to work for an agency are fantasizing. It's not. I'd even go as far as stating that working as an independent and doing your own screening might actually be safer. Half the time i've called to see an sp, i wasn't even asked to give a name. I could tell you more stories, but i don't have the time to do so right now.
 

Maria Divina

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You're wrong. As we all said, if Summer and Keli were big star, with incredible attitude AND look, we could think about paying 220 or maybe 240$... (That why we compared them to Mikaela).


What gave the idea to raise the donation for those ladies, was certainly they were full booked quickly, I imagine...

Sometimes, the most important for gentlemen, is not the look, but the attitude and the way they feel in presence of a specific lady, how they are interacting together, and having fun as well.

If they are great provider of experiences, maybe that's the point. If they are really good about their "private entertaining", maybe that's why they could ask for more. No matter the look is GND or not, if she is making you feel a real great moment over others could make you live, the girl/lady maybe deserve more then?... If she had better skills, that's a good reason, no?

*Oh! by the way, I just don't know about whom you are all talking in this thread: I don't know their looks, I didn't read their reviews, nothing.

**I am just explaining and commenting what it is happening when you are becoming an Indy from an agency, and did expressed a bit myself about my surprise to see some of the comments of some members here.

*** and finally, I know in a kind of way, personally and by their board participation for years, a couple of writers in this thread, how they are acting in an encounter and a bit of the past, when they were giving a lots of money and efforts to help escorts a day or just to meet an escort (we are talking about thousandsss of $....) , maybe it is a bad souvenir of the past now they are just stating the: "Any kind of girl don't deserve to have much than x$ by hour as donation"
 

Maria Divina

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Certainly, Maria, there are those girls who may become discouraged or put off by having to manage their own business, but for those that do and who keep their rates the same as at the agency, they end up making an extra $40-$60 per hour by handling their own affairs AND they get to control who they see and who they don't.

Yes, but I read there are very very hard to book then,

Am I wrong?
 
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Maria Divina

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I detect some condescension in your post.

$40-$60 is not a big concern for any few occassions, but if it gets changed across the board $40-$60 can become $2000-$3000 if you see one girl a week, per year. What if you see 2 or more girls a week like me? Although, I have slowed down some.

And of course which girl we spend time with makes a difference; that is why we don't want to be priced out from seeing some of the really good ones. At the same time some of the really good ones are still priced $200 and under, so in drawing a line and trying to not let things change for reasons I mentioned above, we are saying we will see the great girls at X amount of dollars and pass on the great ones at Y. You see, we still want to see the great SPs and certainly are concerned with who we are with, it's just that bugetary concerns do come into play as well.

It's like the old saying mothers used to (still?) tell their daughters decades ago. It's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man than a poor one. Well, it's just as easy to see great SPs at under $200 than over. The daughters still want great husbands and we still want to see great girls. So, I don't think saying all guys care about is saving a few bucks, it doesn't make a difference who they are with is a fair statement.



No, I was very sad to imagine that could be really the situation. That's all, don't imagine nothing else.

For some gentlemen, they feel the choice of the lady is much more important as the level of the donation, and they are saving to meet the lady of their choice as a big reward they are giving to themselves.

But, I understand your consumer point of view, it is because you are meeting often that it is changing a lots for you, by year. And it is legitimate.
Maybe you will want those ladies you are appreciating, to keep their level of donation, because they will stay in your budget level then, and you will be able to keep to seeing them.
It is not fun to have to cut doing something we like, I know what it is.
 

man77777

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Safety?? What a joke!

People who believe it's safer to work for an agency are fantasizing. It's not. I'd even go as far as stating that working as an independent and doing your own screening might actually be safer. Half the time i've called to see an sp, i wasn't even asked to give a name. I could tell you more stories, but i don't have the time to do so right now.

For a guy who could be violent with girls, it's 100X more disuasive to know she works for an agency, cause they are afraid of pimps and their big harm, than thinking she's a poor girl alone... Morevoer, if she works for an agency, someone is waiting for her after the session, if she's indy, nobody will know what happened to her before the police find her...

Disuasion is often totally enough, Doc...
 

rumpleforeskiin

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People who believe it's safer to work for an agency are fantasizing. It's not. I'd even go as far as stating that working as an independent and doing your own screening might actually be safer. Half the time i've called to see an sp, i wasn't even asked to give a name. I could tell you more stories, but i don't have the time to do so right now.
Totally agree, Doc. Every indy I've ever seen has made the same check in call that the agency girl gets. And indies have the ability to screen. Any agency that says they screen is full of shit. None has ever screened me. Well, that's not entirely true. They've all made sure I have a phone.

And expenses? What expenses? The 40$-60$ is after paying for a driver or taxi. Other expenses? Well, she could pay 75$ per month for the right to post on merb, she could also pay nothing to advertise on annonces123. Or she could pay 75$ to advertise on both.
 

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Sometimes, the most important for gentlemen, is not the look, but the attitude and the way they feel in presence of a specific lady, how they are interacting together, and having fun as well.

That's only true for the older ones or for those who see SPs to relieve their loneliness (Well... I must admit it makes quite a lot of people...)
 

Maria Divina

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For a guy who could be violent with girls, it's 100X more disuasive to know she works for an agency, cause they are afraid of pimps and their big harm, than thinking she's a poor girl alone... Morevoer, if she works for an agency, someone is waiting for her after the session, if she's indy, nobody will know what happened to her before the police find her...

Disuasion is often totally enough, Doc...



Permit me to not agree about the majority of what you are saying.

I had my worst encounters the time I was in agency, I met the most strangest guys and people who want to abuse the most back then.

I'm sorry, but this is the reality.

Doc is right that that agencies don't manage really "a good protection" more than for an Indy. It is an illusion.
 
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jeff jones

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If you are an indy in montreal it is very, very safe all you have to do is use your head, do some screening, ask for references, stay away from private residences unless you know your client and i have even seen some indies call people after they arrive at call, even if they just fake the call the john will still think they called someone to let them know where they are. If they see customers at hotels it is for the most part safe because you have to show id and credit cards and so on to check in. I have known ladies who have been indies for years and have never had any real problems. If a lady wether she is indy or agency has the bad luck of running into a john who is a complete nut case a driver who is a half an hour away is not going to be much help. It just comes down to using your head. A lot of the drivers who drives for agencies are probably average joes who are not going to challenge a violent John anyway.
 

Maria Divina

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That's only true for the older ones or for those who see SPs to relieve their loneliness (Well... I must admit it makes quite a lot of people... :lol:)


That's a negative generalization.

Of course, every guy or gentlemen wants the same basic exchange.

But some have larger expectations to meet just a beautiful living doll.

To each their owns.

:)
 

man77777

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And expenses? What expenses?

If the agency took 60/70$, she has to pay her rent (for incall) or a driver, a protector, someone to answer to the phone when she's working, advertising...

Believe me, I often talked to these girls, and if she keeps the same rate, she won't keep 40-60$/h...
 

man77777

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agencies who don't manage really "a good protection"

Disuasion Maria...

You have more risks to be agressed if the guy knows you're alone than if he knows there is an agency behind you... Logic...
 

man77777

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That's a negative generalization.

But some have larger expectations to meet just a beautiful living doll.

Negative generalization Maria, a young beautiful doll can be intelligent and have a great attitude and service... :)

That's what we all looking for...
 

rumpleforeskiin

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If the agency took 60/70$, she has to pay her rent (for incall) or a driver, a protector, someone to answer to the phone when she's working, advertising...

Believe me, I often talked to these girls, and if she keeps the same rate, she won't keep 40-60$/h...
Believe me, I already included the driver. I've talked to the girls who have done this. She keeps 40$-60$.

And anyone who believes that working for an agency dissuades psychopaths, well... Yes, Maria knows what she's talking about.
 
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