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man77777

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Believe me, I already included the driver. I've talked to the girls who have done this. She keeps 40$-60$.

And anyone who believes that working for an agency dissuades psychopaths, well... Yes, Maria knows what she's talking about.

Any arguments ?
 

Maria Divina

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Negative generalization Maria, a young beautiful doll can be intelligent and have a great attitude and service... :)

That's what we all looking for...

Man77777,

you started to quote me, saying the contrario of me: I was stating that for some gentlemen,the most important was the feeling they have, and the attitude of the lady/girl they were seeing, less than her physical GND look.

You answered that was only the old who were acting like that, and the people lonely.

So, I figure out that the most thing important for you was the level of the plastic beauty of the lady, and the rest (her attitude, skills, education and all the rest) were not something important for you.

Thanks God if this is not the case, then

:)
 
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man77777

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So, I figure out that the most thing important for you was the thing I did not mention: the level of the plastic beauty of the lady, and the rest (her attitude, skills, education and all the rest) were not something important for you.

Yeap you made a generalization by supposing I was a guy only interested in look... I accept your apologies Maria...
 

Maria Divina

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Yeap you made a generalization by supposing I was a guy only interested in look... I accept your apologies Maria...



I am not making apologies, just explaining what happened , we all know, when we are just exchanging by writing, sometimes, we could understand not correctly. That's normal.

:)

So, then, what is your point for the ladies to not raise their donations?
 

cpp433

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tonite goodgirls is 300 for 2 hours,, not a bad deal at all,,, now thats my kind ofsummer season rate!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumb:
 

man77777

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Guys, you all take some exemple that prove it's not 100% safe to work in an agency.

But when you have proven it's not 100% safe to work in agency, you haven't prove it's not safier to work in agency...

There is 2point which make the fact to work for an agency safier :

1/ The disuasion, yes guys who are violent with girls prefer isolated girls. They are afraid of pimps and their big harms = I'm not saying there are right to be afraid, I say it's dissuasive so that it decreases the risk, cause these guys will often choose isolated girls.

2/ The fact that it's always safier to have someone who is waiting for you after the session than going to a meeting by yourself = I'm not saying it avoids any problems, just that it's a factor that decreases the seriousness and duration of the potential agression.

These 2factors make it safier to be in an agency than indy...
 

Maria Divina

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Man77777,

I had make my idea on your position with your #71 and #119 posts (in this thread)

That a girl cannot deserve to have a better donation based on her attitude and being a GND.

:)

I understood that was all about the look then, that was missing the great look to deserve the upper level of donation.

Bon, I have to go, have a great weekend everyone, mine will be...

Take care!
 
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man77777

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I am not making apologies, just explaining what happened , we all know, when we are just exchanging by writing, sometimes, we could understand not correctly. That's normal.

Thx for your apologies Maria ;)
 

Maria Divina

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Guys, you all take some exemple that prove it's not 100% safe to work in an agency.

But when you have proven it's not 100% safe to work in agency, you haven't prove it's not safier to work in agency...

There is 2point which make the fact to work for an agency safier :

1/ The disuasion, yes guys who are violent with girls prefer isolated girls. They are afraid of pimps and their big harms = I'm not saying there are right to be afraid, I say it's dissuasive so that it decreases the risk, cause these guys will often choose isolated girls.

2/ The fact that it's always safier to have someone who is waiting for you after the session than going to a meeting by yourself = I'm not saying it avoids any problems, just that it's a factor that decreases the seriousness and duration of the potential agression.

These 2factors make it safier to be in an agency than indy...



Ok, I accord you in theory, you are right.

But, in practice, you are not.

;)
 

man77777

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That a girl cannot deserve to have a better donation based on her attitude and being a GND.

I understood that was all about the look then, that was missing the great look to deserve the upper level of donation.

My opinion is that a SP needs both look and attitude to be a star and deserve upper donation. have a nice week-end Maria...
 

Merlot

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Hello all,

On this rise in rates solution by going Independent...

Certainly, Maria, there are those girls who may become discouraged or put off by having to manage their own business, but for those that do and who keep their rates the same as at the agency, they end up making an extra $40-$60 per hour by handling their own affairs AND they get to control who they see and who they don't.

True, and that's the flaw in this plan. It's easy to say all the ladies have to do is go Independent because they can keep all the money and therefor can keep their rates at a level we all will be happy about and still make a lot more. But, the good Independents we want, who will succeed, can afford to select clients discriminately because they are that good and in demand. They now have the flexibility to pick and choose instead of being told they have an appointment with just anyone who may call. Why should they stay accessible to everyone when they can now avoid some who may have poorer hygiene, questionable behavior, or some sort of objectionable attitude. Even the very sweet Elena has said she would rather not see a certain percentage of clients, but often stays just for the work.

Like Maria and others have done, I expect new Independents with the better reputations we seek to raise their rates not long after they have established themselves, regardless of more profits from avoiding the agencies cut, and to get a better quality of clientele. I think it will be very hard to find a good Independent, if possible, who won't raise rates...and I doubt the extra work will discourage the good ones.

I don't think so, with all the expenses..

Moreover she will lose in comfort, safety and time...

Yeah, this is a bigger issue than the extra work. But I've never met an SP who could defend herself against a guy physically, and yet there are plenty who seem to know how to work around this risk comfortably. It's a consideration that can shoot down this Independent solution to the raise in rates.
 

hungry101

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Just an example: last time I was in town one of the SPs I saw confided that if she would need protection from a client, she would be in serious trouble as her driver was a short, overweight woman.

Yes but at least there is someone there that can call the cops. The John knows that somone is outside waiting for her. She better be on her way back to the car or she can call the police. This is the main idea.
 

hungry101

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Wrong again.

Another SP I saw told me of an instance when again the agency she was working for hadn't done its diligence, and dropped her off in the middle of nowhere in Montreal Nord. The driver didn't stick around as he had to go pick up other girls somewhere else. Her client turned violent on her, and beat her badly. She managed to escape, and found a cab that drove her to an hospital. The agency sent a bunch of goons afterwards to take care of the client but what good was it for her? She told me it took 2-3 full months to heal, and that's not talking about the fear that something like this could happen again.
Ahhhh, well I guess you made your point here. This is only a deterent for rational people. I hope they took care of this psychopath so he could not harm again.
 

centaur

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Yes at least someone knows she is supposed to come out and where she is.Many years ago a girl working in an apartment near Lafontaine Park received a client she had already seen 3 times.He had taken some drugs,got angry at her for not being able to drain him,beated the crap out of her and took her money too.I was her next visitor,brought her to hospital...She was in really bad shape.What would have happened if she had not scheduled someone else an hour later???How many hours lying in her blood on that floor?
 

rumpleforeskiin

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Yes at least someone knows she is supposed to come out and where she is.Many years ago a girl working in an apartment near Lafontaine Park received a client she had already seen 3 times.He had taken some drugs,got angry at her for not being able to drain him,beated the crap out of her and took her money too.I was her next visitor,brought her to hospital...She was in really bad shape.What would have happened if she had not scheduled someone else an hour later???How many hours lying in her blood on that floor?
Many years ago, I used to use an incall agency that operated out of an apartment on La Famille. The very same thing could have happened there.
 

freedom3

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hungry,

Yeah, from what she told me, they completely trashed his place and beat him to a pulp. If that didn't teach him a lesson, not sure what could.

They probably just told her that they did this. I doubt the agency owner would want to risk going to jail for arranging an assault like this.
 

man77777

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I think I know where you mean. It's not far from there that the daughter of cineast Anne-Claire Poirier was murdered by her pimp, back in '92.

Do you collect all the press article describing young girls massacre, Reverdy ? Ouchhh.. :confused:

;)
 

Merlot

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Did you mean Sainte-Famille?

Hmmm,

Interesting area. :( Two blocks from the corner of rue Saint Famille and rue Milton there's Le Plateau Apartments on the corner of rue Prince Arthur and rue St. Urbain. My good friend who lives only 4-5 blocks from there has pointed this place out a number of times because of an escort murder there by a client years ago. I'm almost sure he said it happened in 1998.

I care for an sp as much as an sp cares for me(or maybe I care more or the sp cares more?I don't have a gadget/meter to verify these things!),but...why should they punish their polite/friendly fans by charging 240 now?


Funny to see these perspectives of both sides. Using words like caring...loyalty...polite and friendly, when it's really about more profits on one side and holding the line on the other. Good arguments though. It seems each party has good points. In effect, it evens out in the end.

My opinion is that a SP needs both look and attitude to be a star and deserve upper donation. have a nice week-end Maria...

I wouldn't say an escort needs terrific looks to be a star. Some of the best I have met were not 10s or 9s. One wasn't even an 8. When an escort knows how to create great style, sex appeal, and has an attitude to match, she can be a star.

Cheers,

Merlot
 
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