Insatisfaction ??

[jabbee]

It's never happened that a client left when he saw me in person. But if this is a situation I encountered, I would be really upset. In my opinion if you get to the incall and you don't want to follow through with the booking, you should pay the provider for her time and leave instead of forcing yourself to go through with it and getting resentful about it. But the provider needs to be compensated...

To me asking for money upfront isn't to make the client feel bad. It's to get it out of the way and to avoid that one of us forgets. If I'm worried about forgetting during the whole booking it won't be pleasant.

would you expect full payment?

 

[Halloween Mike]

To me asking for money upfront isn't to make the client feel bad. It's to get it out of the way and to avoid that one of us forgets. If I'm worried about forgetting during the whole booking it won't be pleasant.

It may sound silly but i read so many times guys going to an incall, paying up front, going to the shower, then they come out and some dude is there saying "wtf you doing in my home blablabla" and they have to leave. I know... its LL stories. But it just make me more in confidence to handle the money as i get out of the shower and i am "with her". I am also pretty quick to go to the shower too. Its like hello, im Mike (or my real first name actually lol), glad to meet you, can i use the shower? They say yes and there boom im gone there. Its for 2 reasons. 1 is that im on foot so (especially in summer) i may be sweaty and look "bad" and 2 i don't like to start action right away when im still "wet" of the shower so i do the chit chat when im out for 5-6 min and then we start. Can't afford to double that 5-6 min in an hour booking. Unless the SP reach to kiss me herself, at that point i done nothing but a "friendly hug" at best. I even have the reflex when they advance to kiss me to go for the cheeks like some peoples like to do when they greet someone (my familly used to do that a lot, my aunts and female cousins i mean).

Anyway so right before we go to the bed or anything i think is the better time to give it. But of course it may vary from provider to provider. I mean if im asked right away as i enter and i trust the provider, i will give it. Its just not a reflex i usually have. Its not malicious. I think my reputation also speak for itself. Usually with an indy i like to talk the "little details" like services etc and prices on that BEFORE the meeting so i have the payment ready and complete right away. (Unless they specifically don't want to talk about it in text).

Not a surprise to anyone, but i like being organized... having the right ammount of money, having the incall ETA, having pre-booked etc. And even with all that, the night before a meeting i barely can sleep out of nervosity... after all these years imagine.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

would you expect full payment?

Honestly, yes. It's not fair for this person. But like I said this never happened to me. Obviously if the person is using fake photos and is someone completely different in person, that's another story.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

It may sound silly but i read so many times guys going to an incall, paying up front, going to the shower, then they come out and some dude is there saying "wtf you doing in my home blablabla" and they have to leave. I know... its LL stories. But it just make me more in confidence to handle the money as i get out of the shower and i am "with her". I am also pretty quick to go to the shower too. Its like hello, im Mike (or my real first name actually lol), glad to meet you, can i use the shower? They say yes and there boom im gone there. Its for 2 reasons. 1 is that im on foot so (especially in summer) i may be sweaty and look "bad" and 2 i don't like to start action right away when im still "wet" of the shower so i do the chit chat when im out for 5-6 min and then we start. Can't afford to double that 5-6 min in an hour booking. Unless the SP reach to kiss me herself, at that point i done nothing but a "friendly hug" at best. I even have the reflex when they advance to kiss me to go for the cheeks like some peoples like to do when they greet someone (my familly used to do that a lot, my aunts and female cousins i mean).

Anyway so right before we go to the bed or anything i think is the better time to give it. But of course it may vary from provider to provider. I mean if im asked right away as i enter and i trust the provider, i will give it. Its just not a reflex i usually have. Its not malicious. I think my reputation also speak for itself. Usually with an indy i like to talk the "little details" like services etc and prices on that BEFORE the meeting so i have the payment ready and complete right away. (Unless they specifically don't want to talk about it in text).

Not a surprise to anyone, but i like being organized... having the right ammount of money, having the incall ETA, having pre-booked etc. And even with all that, the night before a meeting i barely can sleep out of nervosity... after all these years imagine.

I think giving it after the shower is fine if you prefer that... For me I've had the opposite happen, a while back. I've had clients show up without money or try to short change me.. I'm just trying to explain that it's not malicious to ask for money upfront, some of us like to have a specific way of doing things.

As for reputation, I believe you because you seem like a nice person, but it's not because somebody posts here a lot that they are trustworthy in person. I'm sure in your case many providers can vouch for you

 

[Halloween Mike]

I think giving it after the shower is fine if you prefer that... For me I've had the opposite happen, a while back. I've had clients show up without money or try to short change me.. I'm just trying to explain that it's not malicious to ask for money upfront, some of us like to have a specific way of doing things.

As for reputation, I believe you because you seem like a nice person, but it's not because somebody posts here a lot that they are trustworthy in person. I'm sure in your case many providers can vouch for you

Yes i understand that. Again varying on the SP definately make a difference. Being asked up front by someone like you wouldn't be an issue. But if for some unknown reasons i would take a guest and "try my luck" at someone on LL with no reviews, no other social presence, i would not.

What i meant by reputation is i been around for so long. Lots of peoples met me in parties back then (granted its been a while since the last, and new providers didn't) and if someone like me would pull that (not paying or such), it would destroy my reputation entirely. Word would go around very fast. It would be "hobbying suicide" kinda lol. Im giving my handle when booking (and we can always confirm exchanging a DM that its in fact me) so i imagine this secure some "trust". She knowns im safe, good payer, etc. I mean its not a garenty our personalities will match and that the session would be amazing, but at least the most important aspects are covered.

 

[jabbee]

Honestly, yes. It's not fair for this person. But like I said this never happened to me. Obviously if the person is using fake photos and is someone completely different in person, that's another story.

So you could see why a client would stay 2 hours even if he knows he's going to be disappointed after...
I mean a session with someone you view as average is way better than no session..

 

[CLOUD 500]

I think giving it after the shower is fine if you prefer that... For me I've had the opposite happen, a while back. I've had clients show up without money or try to short change me.. I'm just trying to explain that it's not malicious to ask for money upfront, some of us like to have a specific way of doing things.

As for reputation, I believe you because you seem like a nice person, but it's not because somebody posts here a lot that they are trustworthy in person. I'm sure in your case many providers can vouch for you

In all the times I booked a SP from Merb, I never been asked for the money upfront. In my experience, most of the times a girl asking for money upfront is because she is planning to do something bad or not planning on delivering GFE services as promised. It is those little details I pay attention to. Having said that, I do put the money upfront without being asked but only for SPs advertising on this board with reviews. If I book a SP off Leolist types of sites, I pay after service is rendered but I would never use that, I only used it twice in all the years I been in this hobby. The trust part goes both ways.

 

[LC18]

I don’t ask for the money upfront but I expect it to be on the countertop. I won’t touch it until the client is in the shower but at least I feel relaxed

 

[Lunaseraphim]

So you could see why a client would stay 2 hours even if he knows he's going to be disappointed after...
I mean a session with someone you view as average is way better than no session..

Not really because it's never happened that someone local booked me for 2 hours and never booked again

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I don’t ask for the money upfront but I expect it to be on the countertop. I won’t touch it until the client is in the shower but at least I feel relaxed

Yes exactly it's etiquette. I don't make a big deal about it...

 

[Lunaseraphim]

In all the times I booked a SP from Merb, I never been asked for the money upfront. In my experience, most of the times a girl asking for money upfront is because she is planning to do something bad or not planning on delivering GFE services as promised. It is those little details I pay attention to. Having said that, I do put the money upfront without being asked but only for SPs advertising on this board with reviews. If I book a SP off Leolist types of sites, I pay after service is rendered but I would never use that, I only used it twice in all the years I been in this hobby. The trust part goes both ways.

I've always expected the donation to be on the counter or offered up front but I've always delivered GFE service. Check my reviews.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Yes i understand that. Again varying on the SP definately make a difference. Being asked up front by someone like you wouldn't be an issue. But if for some unknown reasons i would take a guest and "try my luck" at someone on LL with no reviews, no other social presence, i would not.

What i meant by reputation is i been around for so long. Lots of peoples met me in parties back then (granted its been a while since the last, and new providers didn't) and if someone like me would pull that (not paying or such), it would destroy my reputation entirely. Word would go around very fast. It would be "hobbying suicide" kinda lol. Im giving my handle when booking (and we can always confirm exchanging a DM that its in fact me) so i imagine this secure some "trust". She knowns im safe, good payer, etc. I mean its not a garenty our personalities will match and that the session would be amazing, but at least the most important aspects are covered.

I see what you mean and honestly I trust you to be sincere.

 

[CLOUD 500]

I've always expected the donation to be on the counter or offered up front but I've always delivered GFE service. Check my reviews.

I know that is why I specifically stated in my OP that I would only leave the donation upfront from reviewed SPs on Merb and Merb agencies SPs.

 

[luxurystacy]

Je me suis fait tourner de bord 1 seule fois par un client immédiatement en entrant dans son appartement. Il m'a dit que j'avais un visage de petite poupée/barbie et qu'il ne voulait pas faire un service avec moi. FIY: Je n'ai jamais eu de chirurgies, jamais eu de cosmetics procedures, j'ai pas de faux bronzage, pas de faux ongles, pas d'extensions de cheveux et pas de maquillage exagéré. Ce soir la, il y avait une énorme tempête de neige. Il n'y avait presque pas de clients qui appelait à l'agence. J'ai presque canceller puisque les routes étaient dangereuses mais ce client la a insisté pour me voir. J'ai donc conduit dans la tempête et j'ai payé pour un parking public (20$) parce que c'était impossible de se stationner dans les rues. Il m'a rejeté aussitôt et n'a offert aucune compensation. J'était sous le choc mais j'ai demandé timidement si c'était possible de me donner 20$ pour mon stationnement. Il a refusé. C'était la 1ere fois qu'un client me disait que mon visage de 'petite poupée' était une insulte au lieu d'un compliment. Je suis retournée cher moi, conduisant dans la tempête découragée. Par chance, cela m'est arrivé seulement 1 fois

 

[LC18]

Je me suis fait tourner de bord 1 seule fois par un client immédiatement en entrant dans son appartement. Il m'a dit que j'avais un visage de petite poupée/barbie et qu'il ne voulait pas faire un service avec moi. FIY: Je n'ai jamais eu de chirurgies, jamais eu de cosmetics procedures, j'ai pas de faux bronzage, pas de faux ongles, pas d'extensions de cheveux et pas de maquillage exagéré. Ce soir la, il y avait une énorme tempête de neige. Il n'y avait presque pas de clients qui appelait à l'agence. J'ai presque canceller puisque les routes étaient dangereuses mais ce client la a insisté pour me voir. J'ai donc conduit dans la tempête et j'ai payé pour un parking public (20$) parce que c'était impossible de se stationner dans les rues. Il m'a rejeté aussitôt et n'a offert aucune compensation. J'était sous le choc mais j'ai demandé timidement si c'était possible de me donner 20$ pour mon stationnement. Il a refusé. C'était la 1ere fois qu'un client me disait que mon visage de 'petite poupée' était une insulte au lieu d'un compliment. Je suis retournée cher moi, conduisant dans la tempête découragée. Par chance, cela m'est arrivé seulement 1 fois

C’est cheap, j’espère que l’agence l’a barré

 

[Halloween Mike]

Je me suis fait tourner de bord 1 seule fois par un client immédiatement en entrant dans son appartement. Ce soir la, il y avait une énorme tempête de neige. Il n'y avait presque pas de clients qui appelait à l'agence. J'ai presque canceller puisque les routes étaient dangereuses mais ce client la a insisté pour me voir. J'ai donc conduit dans la tempête et j'ai payé pour un parking public (20$) parce que c'était impossible de se stationner dans les rues. Il m'a rejeté aussitôt et n'a offert aucune compensation.

Alors la ... wow. Comme dit Lena j'esper que l'agence l'a barré. De savoir que les rues sont glissantes, en pleine tempête, et que la demoiselle fait quand même le trajet en OUTCALL en plus pour allez te voir, et agir de même... j'ai pas de mots. Tant qu'a moi c'est carément méchant...

En tout cas moi j'était très content de te voir Stacy quand ce fut le cas