Insatisfaction ??
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It may sound silly but i read so many times guys going to an incall, paying up front, going to the shower, then they come out and some dude is there saying "wtf you doing in my home blablabla" and they have to leave. I know... its LL stories. But it just make me more in confidence to handle the money as i get out of the shower and i am "with her". I am also pretty quick to go to the shower too. Its like hello, im Mike (or my real first name actually lol), glad to meet you, can i use the shower? They say yes and there boom im gone there. Its for 2 reasons. 1 is that im on foot so (especially in summer) i may be sweaty and look "bad" and 2 i don't like to start action right away when im still "wet" of the shower so i do the chit chat when im out for 5-6 min and then we start. Can't afford to double that 5-6 min in an hour booking. Unless the SP reach to kiss me herself, at that point i done nothing but a "friendly hug" at best. I even have the reflex when they advance to kiss me to go for the cheeks like some peoples like to do when they greet someone (my familly used to do that a lot, my aunts and female cousins i mean).
Anyway so right before we go to the bed or anything i think is the better time to give it. But of course it may vary from provider to provider. I mean if im asked right away as i enter and i trust the provider, i will give it. Its just not a reflex i usually have. Its not malicious. I think my reputation also speak for itself. Usually with an indy i like to talk the "little details" like services etc and prices on that BEFORE the meeting so i have the payment ready and complete right away. (Unless they specifically don't want to talk about it in text).
Not a surprise to anyone, but i like being organized... having the right ammount of money, having the incall ETA, having pre-booked etc. And even with all that, the night before a meeting i barely can sleep out of nervosity... after all these years imagine.
Honestly, yes. It's not fair for this person. But like I said this never happened to me. Obviously if the person is using fake photos and is someone completely different in person, that's another story.
I think giving it after the shower is fine if you prefer that... For me I've had the opposite happen, a while back. I've had clients show up without money or try to short change me.. I'm just trying to explain that it's not malicious to ask for money upfront, some of us like to have a specific way of doing things.
As for reputation, I believe you because you seem like a nice person, but it's not because somebody posts here a lot that they are trustworthy in person. I'm sure in your case many providers can vouch for you
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Yes i understand that. Again varying on the SP definately make a difference. Being asked up front by someone like you wouldn't be an issue. But if for some unknown reasons i would take a guest and "try my luck" at someone on LL with no reviews, no other social presence, i would not.I think giving it after the shower is fine if you prefer that... For me I've had the opposite happen, a while back. I've had clients show up without money or try to short change me.. I'm just trying to explain that it's not malicious to ask for money upfront, some of us like to have a specific way of doing things.
As for reputation, I believe you because you seem like a nice person, but it's not because somebody posts here a lot that they are trustworthy in person. I'm sure in your case many providers can vouch for you
What i meant by reputation is i been around for so long. Lots of peoples met me in parties back then (granted its been a while since the last, and new providers didn't) and if someone like me would pull that (not paying or such), it would destroy my reputation entirely. Word would go around very fast. It would be "hobbying suicide" kinda lol. Im giving my handle when booking (and we can always confirm exchanging a DM that its in fact me) so i imagine this secure some "trust". She knowns im safe, good payer, etc. I mean its not a garenty our personalities will match and that the session would be amazing, but at least the most important aspects are covered.
So you could see why a client would stay 2 hours even if he knows he's going to be disappointed after...
I mean a session with someone you view as average is way better than no session..
In all the times I booked a SP from Merb, I never been asked for the money upfront. In my experience, most of the times a girl asking for money upfront is because she is planning to do something bad or not planning on delivering GFE services as promised. It is those little details I pay attention to. Having said that, I do put the money upfront without being asked but only for SPs advertising on this board with reviews. If I book a SP off Leolist types of sites, I pay after service is rendered but I would never use that, I only used it twice in all the years I been in this hobby. The trust part goes both ways.I think giving it after the shower is fine if you prefer that... For me I've had the opposite happen, a while back. I've had clients show up without money or try to short change me.. I'm just trying to explain that it's not malicious to ask for money upfront, some of us like to have a specific way of doing things.
As for reputation, I believe you because you seem like a nice person, but it's not because somebody posts here a lot that they are trustworthy in person. I'm sure in your case many providers can vouch for you
I don’t ask for the money upfront but I expect it to be on the countertop. I won’t touch it until the client is in the shower but at least I feel relaxed
Not really because it's never happened that someone local booked me for 2 hours and never booked again
I've always expected the donation to be on the counter or offered up front but I've always delivered GFE service. Check my reviews.
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I see what you mean and honestly I trust you to be sincere.
I know that is why I specifically stated in my OP that I would only leave the donation upfront from reviewed SPs on Merb and Merb agencies SPs.I've always expected the donation to be on the counter or offered up front but I've always delivered GFE service. Check my reviews.
Je me suis fait tourner de bord 1 seule fois par un client immédiatement en entrant dans son appartement. Il m'a dit que j'avais un visage de petite poupée/barbie et qu'il ne voulait pas faire un service avec moi. FIY: Je n'ai jamais eu de chirurgies, jamais eu de cosmetics procedures, j'ai pas de faux bronzage, pas de faux ongles, pas d'extensions de cheveux et pas de maquillage exagéré. Ce soir la, il y avait une énorme tempête de neige. Il n'y avait presque pas de clients qui appelait à l'agence. J'ai presque canceller puisque les routes étaient dangereuses mais ce client la a insisté pour me voir. J'ai donc conduit dans la tempête et j'ai payé pour un parking public (20$) parce que c'était impossible de se stationner dans les rues. Il m'a rejeté aussitôt et n'a offert aucune compensation. J'était sous le choc mais j'ai demandé timidement si c'était possible de me donner 20$ pour mon stationnement. Il a refusé. C'était la 1ere fois qu'un client me disait que mon visage de 'petite poupée' était une insulte au lieu d'un compliment. Je suis retournée cher moi, conduisant dans la tempête découragée. Par chance, cela m'est arrivé seulement 1 fois
C’est cheap, j’espère que l’agence l’a barré
Alors la ... wow. Comme dit Lena j'esper que l'agence l'a barré. De savoir que les rues sont glissantes, en pleine tempête, et que la demoiselle fait quand même le trajet en OUTCALL en plus pour allez te voir, et agir de même... j'ai pas de mots. Tant qu'a moi c'est carément méchant...
En tout cas moi j'était très content de te voir Stacy quand ce fut le cas
I haven't been turned away at the door, thankfully I am met with the compliment I look better in person than in pics. (I'm not photogenic, or expierienced in angles and all that. I spent most of my life avoiding having my photo taken.) I kind of prefer it anyways as it starts us both on the right footing.
I'm too forgetful. I have a built in protocol in my head, and it is set for when I walk in to see someone. The only part of this that feels like business to me on a visit is the transaction part. I walk in with my phone in hand. And I will only put it away once I am paid. And let my safty contact know all is well, before putting my phone away. I was raised with business first then fun. I have rarely had to outwardly ask. Often we have our greetings, if it is out somewhere, I ask politely if that is for me. (I don't want to just assume any cash I see laying out is it, so I ask.) Otherwise if they don't get the donation, I suggest I need it to put my phone away.
It isn't even for lack of trust in the client any more, but a set in structure so I don't forget. The moment the money and phone are away, it becomes time to forget the exhistance of time and get lost in eachothers company, however we see fit to enjoy, until at some point the phone chimes to break us out of our escape.
It is like that because I know myself, and if certain things aren't done in exactly the same way all the time for me, it can throw me off and I get forgetful. Even in my other job, I set up auto structures to not forget important steps, and if I get distracted, things go out of order, something will be missed. So I stick to my order.
When it is challenged, I have no problem walking out without being paid. I won't even ask for compensation. Often when someone is trying to withhold the donation, it is because they don't have enough, or don't have Canadian currency and I'm not down to playing games, or be scammed myself.
I'm too forgetful. I have a built in protocol in my head, and it is set for when I walk in to see someone. The only part of this that feels like business to me on a visit is the transaction part. I walk in with my phone in hand. And I will only put it away once I am paid. And let my safty contact know all is well, before putting my phone away. I was raised with business first then fun. I have rarely had to outwardly ask. Often we have our greetings, if it is out somewhere, I ask politely if that is for me. (I don't want to just assume any cash I see laying out is it, so I ask.) Otherwise if they don't get the donation, I suggest I need it to put my phone away.
It isn't even for lack of trust in the client any more, but a set in structure so I don't forget. The moment the money and phone are away, it becomes time to forget the exhistance of time and get lost in eachothers company, however we see fit to enjoy, until at some point the phone chimes to break us out of our escape.
It is like that because I know myself, and if certain things aren't done in exactly the same way all the time for me, it can throw me off and I get forgetful. Even in my other job, I set up auto structures to not forget important steps, and if I get distracted, things go out of order, something will be missed. So I stick to my order.
When it is challenged, I have no problem walking out without being paid. I won't even ask for compensation. Often when someone is trying to withhold the donation, it is because they don't have enough, or don't have Canadian currency and I'm not down to playing games, or be scammed myself.
Quand je recevais/outcall/résidence.....je préparais toujours une ENVELOPPE pour y insérer l'argent.....de même qu'une coupe de vin avec assiette de fromage / fruits.....et je déposais le tout dans la salle de bain...avant son arrivée....et je l'invitais à passer à la salle de bain dès son arrivée...sans ma présence.....et pour son intimité/respect....et à sa sortie tout était joué...et toujours agréable.
En incall je plaçais aussi l'argent dans une enveloppe-----toujours trouvé ça plus discret---lui donnais dès mon arrivée avec aussi souvent une bouteille de vin.....elle appréciait....et encore là ça rendait la rencontre fort agréable.....lol.
En incall je plaçais aussi l'argent dans une enveloppe-----toujours trouvé ça plus discret---lui donnais dès mon arrivée avec aussi souvent une bouteille de vin.....elle appréciait....et encore là ça rendait la rencontre fort agréable.....lol.
Does this mean you would wait to pay after the service? This is something that literally never happened to me, except with regular clients if we are not spending that much time together and I'm not going to forget. Sometimes, if I'm spending a couple hours in good company, I'm having a really good time and I forget about the donation (or other things, in my personal life), so I'd rather get it out of the way.
I just don't advise doing this. I've had clients (very, very few!!) tell me they don't want to pay until after the service over text, and I refused seeing them. Because this is giving them the power to leave without paying, and yes, it does happen. It's never happened to me, but there are countless stories. I've had a guy run out without paying at a massage parlor once, too, after he spontaneously asked for an extra and told me he'd pay later. In my opinion clients should pay upfront.
Not all SPs have reviews, too, and many of us started by posting on leolist.
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