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Time to consult the DSM

I guess I would be particularly interested in an evaluation of how much value she puts on human life. If her actions in the past are indicative of that then the answer is obviously very little. I find it odd as well that more has not been reported on the subject. Perhaps there is something that the authorities don't want the citizens to know?

On the other hand, lets assume for the moment that she was evaluated and there was no disorder found and that is the reason we haven't heard more about this issue. Isn't that proof positive that she really did know what she was doing, had no qualms with it, and is perfectly capable of doing it again whenever she gets the oppurtunity? Wouldn't that be the perfect reason to keep her under lock and key for life? 12 years and out you go into the world again is absolute insanity. I know she made a deal but for Petes sake, how did they come up with 12 years? Sentencing guidelines? What exactly is the guide for sentencing someone who rapes children in Canada?

In the U.S. many prisoners take great pride in killing child rapists. How did Karla evade such a deserved fate? If there was ever a case I could agree with Death Penalty advocates on its one where children are kidnapped, tortured, raped, and killed in cold blood. I can't think of any crime more revolting. Regardless of whether she has a disorder or whether its treatable or not, IMHO she should be locked in a cell to protect the general population from her ever harming anyone again.
 

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As far as I am aware, and I think it was reported in the news, Karla refused to undergo any therapy at all. As far as lawsuits stemming from her release...she served her entire term in prison, that is unheard of in todays justice system, there was no choice but to release her. No one can be held responsible for her actions but Karla herself. Considering the number of so called young offenders who commit equally if not more violent crimes that are released and never identified to the public, I think she is a very minor threat.
There were three kids who beat an elderly couple to death with baseball bats, the Toupe murders, and they were released after 3 or 4 years. They have never been id'd and two of them re-offended and still could not be identified due to their earlier crimes. Our justice system is a joke and needs to be totally rehauled because as it is now the criminals receive more protection than the public.
 

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I guess I would be particularly interested in an evaluation of how much value she puts on human life. If her actions in the past are indicative of that then the answer is obviously very little. I find it odd as well that more has not been reported on the subject. Perhaps there is something that the authorities don't want the citizens to know?

On the other hand, lets assume for the moment that she was evaluated and there was no disorder found and that is the reason we haven't heard more about this issue. Isn't that proof positive that she really did know what she was doing, had no qualms with it, and is perfectly capable of doing it again whenever she gets the oppurtunity? Wouldn't that be the perfect reason to keep her under lock and key for life? 12 years and out you go into the world again is absolute insanity. I know she made a deal but for Petes sake, how did they come up with 12 years? Sentencing guidelines? What exactly is the guide for sentencing someone who rapes children in Canada?

In the U.S. many prisoners take great pride in killing child rapists. How did Karla evade such a deserved fate? If there was ever a case I could agree with Death Penalty advocates on its one where children are kidnapped, tortured, raped, and killed in cold blood. I can't think of any crime more revolting. Regardless of whether she has a disorder or whether its treatable or not, IMHO she should be locked in a cell to protect the general population from her ever harming anyone again.

well IMHO giving is boyfriend as a xmas give here own sister to rape here cause the boyfriend wanted here to be virgin what the hell is that if that is not been mental sick in what kind of world do we live? i find it to be the most disgausting sick and imoral thing to do. she probaby sucked the evaluator dicks when he was evaluating here. she probably did a agreement with the judge when she get out she will be his sexual slave that why she got 12 years.
 

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Dear HonestAbe, Yes i did and i do felt sorry for her, because we all make mistakes. I know her mistakes are horrible, far too many and almost an unforgivible horror.
We have no idea what kind of people Kalla Homolka was raised with. Maybe she was raised to be insensitive and indifferent to human life, who knows.
Plus i think every society has its monsters, someone we all chose to hate and despise. Instead of putting our energy into diminishing suffering and corruption and hunger and despair and unfulfilled dreans around ourselves.

Instead many of us chose to hate, even total strangers without knoying all sides of the entire picture.

I have a passion to look at situations from all pespectives, plus i was raised catholic therefore forgiving is my guidence in life. I dont want to walk around full of hatred towards people i dont even know. What for ? remember the cases of cancer are rising.

Besides i think just been Karla Homolka and having to wake up with her consciousness and going to sleep with her subconsciousness is enough of a prison and punishment in itself. How may of us would like to be Karla Homolka ?
So there you go., Have a great day and enjoy your summer.
 
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Someone to fear

Hi Juliana,

While I don't advocate hate in general it is a natural emotion when something is so appalling that it utterly disgusts you. If there was ever a reason to hate someone what better one than someone who kidnaps, tortures, rapes, and murders little children. Its the closest to resembling 'Satan' I can imagine. Being raised Catholic myself I learned to "reject Satan and all his works." Karla did Satans' work. Sorry if that sounds like a scene from the Exorcist but if the shoe fits...

With respect to the idea that she is "someone to hate" I think you missed the more important point which is she is "someone to fear!" How comfortable would anybody feel living close by to her? Would any parents want to live in a neighborhood with her? As a rather large man with years of training in martial arts and thousands of hours in the gym I myself would be afraid to live close to someone like her. What good is all the strength and fighting skill in the world if she befriends you, makes you comfortable in her presence, then sneaks up behind you and zaps you with a tazer or sticks a knife in your back? How do you defend your children from her giving out poison kool-aid? Killers like her are extremely resourceful, do not be fooled by her. Remember, she delivered her own sister to her Satanic lover for a gruesome death.

I also believe that it is much easier to look at her current 'plight' and feel empathy for her since it wasn't someone you knew, were related too, or loved, who was kidnapped, tortured, raped, and murdered. Try telling that to a family member of one of those little girls and see what their thoughts are. I already admitted that I am not aware of her upbringing but even if it was bad it still was no excuse. I think you are giving her the benefit of the doubt which is very dangerous with monsters like her.

She has successfully manipulated some people into feeling bad for her based on unproven perceptions and guesswork about a supposed troubled past. This is aimed at making us all believe that she like many other women suffers from a lack of self confidence which was responsible for her being controlled by Bernardo whom she points her finger at and blames for her involvement. There are numerous thinking errors in this kind of cop-out, the most obvious one is "making excuses", but it also reeks of "poor me" and "minimization."

I agree with your general sentiment that many people are victims of circumstance and MAYBE this is partially to blame for the person Karla became. I also agree, again, that putting a lot of time into hating something is usually non-productive. However in this case I think hate serves a useful purpose in that it helps galvanize awareness/resentment of the danger she represents which has been thrown in the laps of the people of Montreal. It also serves as a strong deterrent to people who might otherwise engage in such behavior when they see how someone can become so unwanted and reviled. As you put it yourself, who would want to be her now?

Finally put into perspective who it is that we are talking about. Feeling bad for a poor little girl who suffered a hard childhood(again, an assumption) is understandable but Karla is no longer a little girl. That little girl was gone a long time ago. She grew into a horrific adult woman, that is who is being punished and made to suffer, not the little girl who she used to be. As to whether she has suffered enough I don't think there is any way you could possibly make her suffer as much as those little girls suffered other than to subject Karla to the same fate which we all know will never happen because her rights are being pushed as important as anybody elses rights. Ironic huh?
 

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Just a quick point,

It's a sad fact of life that lots of children grow up in unhappy homes caused by any number of factors.....divorce, alcohol, drugs, poverty, mental health issues, neglectful parents.....but what percentage of these children grow up to become serial killers? I have no idea what Karla Homolka's childhood was like, but sorry, having a bad childhood doesn't wash as an excuse for the horrible crimes she was convicted of.

I'm not a hard liner by any means, but I find it really difficult to get past how little she has paid for what she did. Her interview on TV last week, the first time she tried to show any remorse, sounded hollow. She's manipulative and narcisistic.

For those of you with a forgive and forget attitude, just imagine if the victims were your daughter, niece, sister, cousin, or anyone else you were close to.
 

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Homolka/Bernardo timeline part 1

Here's a timeline of the Homolka/Bernardo crimes. I can't understand how anyone could have any sympathy whatsoever for this sick couple.


INDEPTH: BERNARDO
Bernardo/Homolka timeline

CBC News Online | July 5, 2005


The release of Karla Homolka from prison has served to reignite a public fury that's been simmering just below the surface for as long as the whole story's been known. Her "deal with the devil" - 12 years in prison in return for testifying against husband Paul Bernardo - caused an outcry when the true scope of her involvement in murder became clear: not a helpless, manipulated victim, as it turned out, but a willing and enthusiastic participant in some appalling acts.

The nature of the murders, the videotapes, the fact that an attractive, seemingly normal young couple were responsible for causing so much pain - the story riveted our attention, even as we were repelled by its details. There were books, TV specials, a movie and too many front pages to count. And now, the story gets new life because she is out of prison after serving her 12-year sentence.

The questions linger. Is she still a danger? Where is she going to live? Will the media be able to report on her whereabouts? Will she be hounded for her crimes or be able to live a seemingly normal life?

For the public, and especially for the families of her victims, there's likely to be little satisfaction from learning any of the answers.


Paul Bernardo
May 1987:
A young woman is raped in Scarborough, Ont., the first in a chain of rapes committed by the person the media dubs the Scarborough Rapist. Paul Bernardo would later admit to the sexual assaults of at least 14 women in southern Ontario. At one point, Bernardo faced 53 charges related to the rape – and in some cases, murder – of young women.

Oct. 17, 1987:
Karla Homolka, 17, meets Paul Bernardo, 23, at a hotel restaurant in Scarborough, Ont. They have sex in their hotel room two hours later.

Dec. 24, 1989:
Bernardo and Homolka are engaged.

1990:
Bernardo loses his job at accounting firm Price-Waterhouse. He would later turn to cigarette smuggling to make money.

July 1990:
According to Bernardo's testimony, he and Karla Homolka serve her younger sister, Tammy, a spaghetti dinner spiked with Valium stolen from Karla's workplace. Bernardo rapes Tammy for about a minute before she starts to wake up.

Nov. 20, 1990:
Bernardo provides hair, blood and saliva samples to Metro Toronto police as part of their Scarborough Rapist investigation.


Karla Homolka
Dec. 23, 1990:
After a Homolka family Christmas party, Bernardo and Karla Homolka drug Tammy Homolka with animal tranquilizers Karla stole from her work. Bernardo and Karla Homolka rape Tammy while she's unconscious. Tammy later chokes on her own vomit and dies. Bernardo tells police he tried to revive her, but failed, and her death is ruled an accident.

mid-January 1991:
Bernardo picks up a young female hitchhiker, brings her back to the Homolka home and rapes her in Karla Homolka's bedroom. He drops her off on a back street.

Feb. 1, 1991:
Bernardo and Homolka move into a rented house in St. Catharines, Ont.

June 14, 1991:
Bernardo kidnaps 14-year-old Leslie Mahaffy from outside her house. With Homolka, he rapes and murders her.

June 29, 1991:
Bernardo and Homolka are married in a lavish ceremony. Mahaffy's dismembered body is found encased in concrete in Lake Gibson near St. Catharines.

April 16, 1992:
Bernardo, with the assistance of Homolka, kidnaps Kristen French from a church parking lot. After raping, torturing and killing her, they leave her body naked in a ditch, her hair cut off.

April 30, 1992:
French's body is found.

December 1992:
The Centre of Forensic Sciences begins DNA testing of the samples Bernardo provided in 1990.

January 1993:
After Bernardo beats Homolka with a flashlight, leaving her with two black eyes, she leaves their home and files charges against him.

Feb. 17, 1993:
Bernardo is arrested. An inquiry into the Bernardo case would later find that officers in charge violated Bernardo's charter rights by not allowing him to call a lawyer despite his repeated requests, making his initial eight-hour interrogation inadmissible as evidence.

Feb. 19, 1993:
A search warrant is executed in the Bernardo home. During the 71-day search of the St. Catharines house that follows, police fail to find videotapes containing the recordings of the rapes of Mahaffy, French, Tammy Homolka and at least one other girl.

May 6, 1993:
Ken Murray, Bernardo's lawyer, gains access to Bernardo's home. Murray retrieves the videotapes from above a ceiling light fixture in the upstairs bathroom. He would keep the videos in his possession for 16 months.

May 1993:
The plea agreement between Crown prosecutors and Homolka's lawyers is finalized.

June 28, 1993:
Homolka's trial begins.

July 1993:
Homolka pleads guilty to two counts of manslaughter and receives a 12-year jail sentence. Her pleas and the statement of facts agreed to by her lawyer and the Crown are both covered by a publication ban ordered by the judge to ensure a fair trial for Bernardo.

September 1994:
Ken Murray quits as Bernardo's lawyer and hands Bernardo's videotapes over to his successor, John Rosen. Rosen turns the videos over to police later in the month.

May 18, 1995:
Bernardo's trial begins.

June 29, 1995:
Homolka testifies against Bernardo.

Sept. 1, 1995:
Bernardo is found guilty of all nine charges against him, including two counts of first-degree murder for killing French and Mahaffy.

Sept. 15, 1995:
Bernardo is sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole for 25 years.

November 1995:
Bernardo is declared a dangerous offender, meaning he will likely spend the rest of his life in jail.

April 1996:
An Ontario Court judge rules that videotapes showing the rape and torture of Bernardo's victims must be destroyed when they are no longer needed for legal purposes.

July 1996:
A six-month-long inquiry into the police investigation of Bernardo concludes that the investigation was hampered by dozens of mistakes by individual officers and by rivalries between different police departments. The inquiry concludes that some of Bernardo's crimes could have been prevented if Bernardo's DNA samples had been processed more quickly.

January 1997:
Ken Murray is charged with obstruction of justice and possession of child pornography for failing to turn over the Bernardo tapes.

Summer 1997:
Homolka is transferred to Joliette Institution in Quebec when the Kingston Prison for Women is closed.
 

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Karla did not have a difficult childhood nor an unloving home.

Psychiatric assessments of Homolka during her 12 years in prison reveal a childhood and adolescence that were unremarkable.

Homolka's introduction to love and sex started pretty routinely, say documents made public during the hearings on her release conditions.



see the rest of article;

http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/National/2005/07/11/1126245-sun.html
 

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Homolka/Bernardo timeline part 2

March 2000:
The Ontario Court of Appeal dismisses Bernardo's request for a new trial.
» CBC STORY: Bernardo appeal dismissed

June 2000:
Murray is acquitted of charges arising from his failure to turn over the Bernardo tapes.
» CBC STORY: Court finds Bernardo lawyer not guilty

Sept. 21, 2000:
The Supreme Court of Canada denies Bernardo's leave to appeal his murder convictions.
» CBC STORY: Bernardo appeal rejected

Oct. 9, 2000:
Homolka is transferred to a maximum-security prison in Saskatoon for a psychiatric examination. Homolka's lawyers attempt to block the move, saying her life would be in danger if she were removed from the prison in Joliette.
» CBC STORY: Homolka transferred to maximum-security facility
» CBC STORY: Homolka's arrival irks inmates

Nov. 30. 2000:
Crown prosecutors drop charges against author Stephen Williams. The charges alleged that Williams broke a court order by watching the Bernardo tapes. The Crown said it didn't want to air the tapes again in court, so the judge dismissed the charges.
» CBC STORY: Prosecutors drop charge against Bernardo author

January 2001:
Homolka is transferred to a Montreal psychiatric hospital to undergo treatment.
CBC STORY: Homolka on her way to Quebec: report

March 2001:
The National Parole Board denies Homolka's application for early release, saying she is a risk to kill again.
» CBC STORY: Karla Homolka denied statutory release

December 2001:
The six videotapes depicting the rape and torture of Bernardo and Homolka's victims are destroyed.
» CBC STORY: Tapes made by Bernardo destroyed

March 2002:
The National Parole Board rules that Homolka is still a risk to society and will not be granted early release.
» CBC STORY: Homolka refused early release

Nov. 13, 2002:
A book on Homolka written by Stephen Williams is published in French, containing excerpts from letters between the author and Homolka. Questions arise over whether the book violates a condition of Homolka's plea bargain, which states that she would not "talk directly … or indirectly to the media for a book … or live endeavour." Williams says he didn't speak to Homolka about the crimes, so the argument is moot.
» CBC STORY: Questions over controversial Homolka book

February 2003:
The English language version of Williams' book, and Karla: A Pact with the Devil, appears on bookstore shelves.
» CBC STORY: Families lash out at Homolka book

May 4, 2003:
Author Stephen Williams is arrested and charged with violating a court order barring publication of courtroom exhibits used in the Bernardo and Homolka trials. Williams had used his website to show a collection of photographs, videotapes and police interviews from the cases.
» CBC STORY: Homolka author arrested over Internet content

October 2003:
Ontario Provincial Police lay 94 new charges against Stephen Williams related to his books Invisible Darkness and Karla: A Pact with the Devil.
» CBC STORY: Bernardo author faces new charges

May 2004:
Williams wins a grant from Human Rights Watch, an organization that supports victims of political persecution, to help defer his legal costs. The award places Canada alongside countries such as Myanmar, Peru and Sierra Leone.
» CBC STORY: Canadians awarded persecuted-writer prizes

Dec. 16, 2004:
The National Parole Board rules that Homolka must stay in prison for her full term, ending July 5, 2005.
» CBC STORY: Parole Board keeps Karla Homolka behind bars for 7 more months

Jan. 14, 2005:
Stephen Williams, author of two books on Bernardo and Homolka, pleads guilty to breaking a publication ban by posting the names of the couple's sexual assault victims on his website. He receives a three-year suspended sentence and is ordered to do 70 hours of community service.
» CBC STORY: Bernardo author pleads guilty to breaching publication ban

April 11, 2005:
Ontario Attorney General Michael Bryant says all provinces should place restrictions on Karla Homolka's activities once she's released in July. Bryant says he will ask a Quebec court judge to impose conditions on Homolka under section 810 of the Criminal Code, which allows for curfews and other restrictions.
» CBC STORY: Ontario calls for restrictions on Homolka after release

April 12, 2005:
Michael Bryant says Homolka will not be charged with killing her sister when she is released from prison in July.
» CBC STORY: Ontario won't charge Homolka in sister's death

April 26, 2005:
Two officers with Niagara Regional Police meet with Homolka to discuss her plans after her release from prison. The details of that conversation are not released.

May 19, 2005:
A law passes through the Senate requiring violent criminals, including Karla Homolka, to give a DNA sample to a national databank. The bill, C-13, speeds through the minority government in part because of Homolka's impending release.
» CBC STORY: Homolka, others must give DNA sample under new law

June 2, 2005:
Karla Homolka appears in a court in Joliette, Que., as prosecutors argue that restrictions should be placed on her freedom when she is released. It is the first time she is seen in public since she testified against her former husband, Paul Bernardo, 10 years earlier.
» CBC STORY: Homolka in chains in court hearing

June 3, 2005:
After two days of arguments, Judge Jean R. Beaulieu agrees that Karla Homolka may pose a risk to society after she is released. He places several restrictions on her freedom that are to take effect after she is released. They include:
She is to tell police her home address, work address and who she lives with.
She has to notify police as soon as any of the above changes.
She will also have to notify police of any change to her name.
If she wants to be away from her home for more than 48 hours, she will have to give 72 hours notice.
She cannot contact Paul Bernardo, the families of Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French or Jane Doe. She also may not contact any violent criminals.
She also will be forbidden from being with people under the age of 16 and from consuming drugs other than prescription medicine.
Continue therapy and counselling.
Provide police with a DNA sample.
» CBC STORY: Judge says Homolka still poses threat, imposes strict conditions on her freedom

June 29, 2005:
A Quebec judge turns down Karla Homolka's request for an injunction prohibiting the media from telling certain details about her life after she's released from prison. Homolka had hoped for a ban lasting 10 days after her release. Mr. Justice Paul-Marcel Bellavance rules that granting the injunction would have impaired the freedom of the press.

Bellavance also agrees with an argument made by several media outlets that the public has a right to know Homolka's location because of the severity of her crimes and because another court earlier had ruled that she could still be dangerous.
» CBC STORY: Judge denies plea for media ban in Homolka case

July 4, 2005:
Karla Homolka is released from prison after serving her 12-year sentence. She is whisked out of the St. Anne des Plaines prison, north of Montreal, where she had been transferred about a month before her release. Reporters wait outside the prison for days to catch a glimpse of her leaving and chase various vehicles they believe are transporting her, without being sure she is inside. A prison official and the lawyer for the victims' families confirm the release.

Homolka's lawyers continue fighting in court to prevent the media from reporting on her life outside prison, including her whereabouts.
 

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Dear Darlings !!!!!!!!

Dear HonestAbe You are absolutely right ! I would not fell confortable knowing someone so indifference to human suffering is living near by me.

Dear Darcy, i was not familiar with all the details. Thank you for such a complete description of the horror picture Bernardo\HomolKa saga.

Have a wonderful summerish day.

 

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So much for a hard childhood!

Thanks to GoHABSGo for that tidbit. Just makes her all the more disgusting.

Thanks to Darcy for the timeline. Absolutely grotesque!

Watch your backs in Montreal, theres a pedophile/murderer roaming free and her lawyers don't want you to know where she is. Not a very comforting thought huh?
 

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What I am suggesting is punishments that fit the crime. Child molesters get away with minimal jail sentances or slap on the wrists. Recently a woman who was aware of her husband's molestation of her three daughters and who turned a blind eye to it was set free with no penalty...her profession happened to be as a children's abuse councelor, she must have been good at her job seeing as she had first hand knowledge. What I would like to see is identification of all violent or sexual offenders no matter how old they are, enough of protecting criminals just because they aren't 18 years old. Teenagers who commit rapes and murders cannot be identified and serve minimal sentences before they are released into an unaware society. Maybe we need some judges with a bit of real life experience that goes beyond the tinted windows of their Mercedes.
As far as Karla goes, well that was just a combination of overzealous prosecutors and a lawyer who should have turned over the tapes as soon as he found them. They offered her a deal and she took it, wouldn't any of us have done the same in her situation? She didn't make the deal the gov't did. What should she have done, say no thank you I would rather spend the rest of my life in jail? She served ALL her time, she's out, and let's give her a chance to rebuild her life. Besides, it's not like we have a choice in the matter.
 

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Missing the point

I think that a discussion about the appropriateness of her punishment is missing the point.

My knowledge of psychiatry is limited (not that the experts often cure anyone anyways) and I have never met KH, but it seems to me obvious that she is a psychopath.

If I, a reasonably normal person (i.e. a non-murderer), get a jay-walking ticket, I will wonder: Why am I being singled out? Does the offence really merit any punishment?

I will ascribe it to bad luck that I was caught since I see many get away with it. Since I will not feel any guilt, the probability of being caught is small and the punishment is only a small fine, I will continue to jay-walk.

A psychopath feels no guilt about murder and makes similar calculations.

From Karla's never having, to my knowledge, publicly expressed any remorse nor concern for those affected by her crimes while whining incessantly about her fears for her own future and from everything else I have read about her, it seems clear that she is a psychopath. There doesn't appear to be any legal mechanism now available to force treatment or continue her incarceration.

Not all psychopaths feel a compulsion to kill. Even some who do can control themselves due to fear of punishment. Let's all hope that Karla falls in one of those categories.

I hope that the following is interpreted as comic relief:

A while ago, I mentioned to a friend (who regards himself as a casanova), that the good news was that a beautiful blonde nymphomaniac who hadn't had a man in 12 years was moving to his neighbourhood.

He didn't get it immediately so he asked what the bad news was. I answered that that was also the bad news: It's Karla Homoloka.
 
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Please Welcome Karla H & Paul B To The Sexopath's Club

anon_vlad said:
Techman,

Not to turn this into a thread to debate definitions, but:

Psycho vs sociopath


Sexopath is another infamous credential Karla H and Paul B deserve. In many ways they are the worst kind of pedophiles in that not only they raped and sexually tortured innocent kids but they kill them as well. Don't you think it is time to send them to the no man's land such as Mars and let them rot. I get tired of watching Karla's phony acts and devilish manipulation of the public. :mad:
 

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karla Homolka

Sooo,

Did anyone spot her at a Tim Hortons yet over there in Montreal??
Iced cappuccino sales must be rocketing, and the waitresses must be sick of guys asking if she dropped by.

Anyone going to see the movie "Karla" in late August?

Just wondering
 

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Sadly, our justice system made a deal with her and a 12 year sentence was the end result. She could have applied for parole and serve two-thirds, but declined.

There are much worse offenders and dangerous criminals roaming our streets. How about the guys that beat up and killed that young russian kid in Toronto? They were freed recently after serving only a couple of years and no one cried boo.

I'm still not sold on Karla Homolka's guilt. She was the abused wife of sexual predator, rapist and murderer Paul Bernardo. She was severely beaten by him, and probably would have got killed by him if she didn't follow orders. I just don't know. But what i do know is that according to our justice system, she has paid her debt to society, and living in this country under this legal system means that we have to respect this.

Again, there are thousands of worse offenders roaming our streets, and it is a near guarantee that they will re-offend. Same goes for the people that we let into our country with no criminal record check. It's a joke!

This is all bullshit!! Pardon my language but this woman is a sick perverted killer who in my opinion is just as quilty if not more then her ex husband. I happened to be living in the Niagara Region at the time of these crimes and its disgusting. She gave him her own sister and helped to drug and rape her. She could have went to the police in the beginning but she didnt because of her own sick twisted mind. Her ex husband Paul Bernardo was an admitted rapist but never a killer until this woman was involved.
 

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Another reason not to accept a substitute for the lady I request. :eek:


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