Murder in Kingston

[vodka236]

accommodation raisonable

culture values that promotes power over a female.
female as property. defending traditional values
through murder. or, is it another misinterpretation
of the kuran. i'm wondering if this is some kind of
sick word games going on to rationalize their power trip.

Islam is fighting for control not only among Muslim
countries but also here in the West inside their
communities. They are 300 millions muslim around the
world. These killing will go on in many countries. Can these
murders crime be at least prevented in Canada? Very hard when
the war itself is still in their heads. Hmm Religious liberty and political
power in canadian soil.

How about a polynesian aborigen immigrated to canada
is he allowed to hunt our children and use as meal for ritual
purpose? Or pushing elderly over the cliff and eat their
brains out as a sign of respect? Bottom line, should any
"culture of death" be tolerated? It's pretty evident. We
should draw the line.

again this is only my opinion. i've been close friend
of moderate muslim and they a very peaceful bunch.

vodka236

 

[Dee]

How about a polynesian aborigen immigrated to canada
is he allowed to hunt our children and use as meal for ritual
purpose? Or pushing elderly over the cliff and eat their
brains out as a sign of respect?

If they did this to their own people who are part of their culture we must be open minded... if they did this to ours they would be punished but in a reduced fashion... this would both pass the message of respect and that our mores have to be respected when our people are involved.

We shouldn't forget that western societies condone putting people to death to for what we view is improper conduct (capital punishment, euthanasia, wars in Afghanistan, Bosnia etc and some would argue abortion)

 

[Merlot]

How about a polynesian aborigen immigrated to canada
is he allowed to hunt our children and use as meal for ritual
purpose?
vodka236

If they did this to their own people who are part of their culture we must be open minded... if they did this to ours they would be punished but in a reduced fashion... this would both pass the message of respect and that our mores have to be respected when our people are involved.

We shouldn't forget that western societies condone putting people to death to for what we view is improper conduct (capital punishment, euthanasia, wars in Afghanistan, Bosnia etc and some would argue abortion)

C'mon Dee,

Hunting children to eat is just evil. That's all..

Really ,

Merlot

 

[YouVantOption]

What i'm pissed about is that Canada (until Obama sent more troops after his election) was one of the only NATO countries to send troops there.

That is not correct. All NATO members sent troops to Afghanistan when the U.S. invoked the mutual defense clause.

 

[Mike Mercury]

This Islamophobic, anti-Arab discussion isn't surprising, but nevertheless vile.



Those that advocate torture are as inhuman and inhumane as these murderers.

It would be easier not to be islamophobe and anti-arab if a proportion of them were not so barbaric.

 

[eastender]

Barbarism

It would be easier not to be islamophobe and anti-arab if a proportion of them were not so barbaric.

No one race, religion, nationality, species, age group or gender has the monopoly on barbarism. Barbarism is an equal opportunity evil.

 

[Mike Mercury]

They many not have the monopoly but they have cornered the market.

 

[Doc Holliday]

That is not correct. All NATO members sent troops to Afghanistan when the U.S. invoked the mutual defense clause.

Where are they all now??

 

[Kepler]

The attack had nothing to do with Canadians being there. It was an attack against America for many reasons,

It was an attack on the western world, and similar plots were carried out or foiled in the UK, Spain, France, Canada, etc. And by the way, love it or hate it, America sustains our way of life with their policies.

Canada ...was one of the only NATO countries to send troops there. Other NATO countries (i'm not referring to the US) began to back away on their promises

Canada is doing more than it's fair share, but lots of others are fighting too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force#Contributing_nations

But the question remains: if we pull out, we know the Taliban will retake the country and it will once again become a training ground for terrorists. Then what do we do when we next get attacked? Go back in?

I ask seriously: What realistic alternative do you propose?

 

[ocean]

Again before this becomes a religious tirade, remember only 2 months ago, these same people were fighting for freedom in iran and elsewhere.

 

[Hornee]

In a public interview, the lawyer, Me Ferdoussi argues that his client, Mohammed Shafia and his son Hamed were reportedly beaten in prison in Ontario. He will require that they are protected.

Quinte jail is just up the road from me and I guess it was the son who was beaten not the father (tooooooo baaaaaaaad). They now want them released from jail so they can be safe ( I am sure they would get fake passports & run). A whole bunch of prisoners, low lifes, thieves & druggies have higher morals than these bastards. Let's hope the cons get to do the job right & save the Ontarion government a whole lot of money.

 

[Dee]

Quinte jail is just up the road from me and I guess it was the son who was beaten not the father (tooooooo baaaaaaaad). They now want them released from jail so they can be safe ( I am sure they would get fake passports & run). A whole bunch of prisoners, low lifes, thieves & druggies have higher morals than these bastards. Let's hope the cons get to do the job right & save the Ontarion government a whole lot of money.

Would you have hoped for the same thing for Guy Paul Morin when he was in jail either before or after he was convicted of murder?

OK folks could you set out for us who it is OK to kill and torture even before they are convicted?

This will help us explain our civilized justice system to those who are not civilized.

 

[Dee]

What some here fail to realize is that they are proposing actions strikingly similar to the actions they pretend to abhor.

 

[Possum Trot]

OK folks could you set out for us who it is OK to kill and torture even before they are convicted?

This will help us explain our civilized justice system to those who are not civilized.

Nobody of course, but daughters and sisters would certainly be at the top of my list of who it is not ok to kill.

 

[Techman]

What some here fail to realize is that they are proposing actions strikingly similar to the actions they pretend to abhor.

I don't see anyone here suggesting that any harm be done to innocent people. If and when they are convicted, I would like to see them drawn and quartered. Literally if our laws provided for it, which unfortunately they don't. And if they are found not guilty, which I highly doubt, I'll have to accept it. But they have to be tried according to our laws regarding murder, not their own beliefs about so called 'honour killing'.

In the meantime they should be kept in prison because they constitute an extreme flight risk. If they are in danger then put them in solitary confinement away from other prisoners. But under no circumstances should they be released into society while awaiting trial. Unless you are willing to equipe them with exploding collars that will blow their heads off if tampered with or they leave their home.

 

[metoo4]

... Unless you are willing to equipe them with exploding collars that will blow their heads off if tampered with or they leave their home.

Well... Do you know where one could get a hold of such toy? Might be a good thing to include in our legal arsenal, isn't it? Naa, too messy...

 

[Techman]

Well... Do you know where one could get a hold of such toy? Might be a good thing to include in our legal arsenal, isn't it? Naa, too messy...

OK, I'll compromise. Just modify one of those ankle bracelets they use for house arrest and hook up a half ounce of plastique or semtex into it. That should effectively remove their lower body if they stray too far from their assigned area. It would also make identification easier than if the head was vaporized.

 

[Techman]

Makes you just as barbaric and cruel as those you judge as such. A justice system that stoops down to the level of criminals has its root in tyranny.

Probably has fewer criminals too.

 

[Dr Edgar Who]

What some here fail to realize is that they are proposing actions strikingly similar to the actions they pretend to abhor.

Agree with you to an extent :

I am personally against the death penalty and torture.
IMO the latter is just as barbaric as honour killings, the former I just don't trust the state with. Apparently some people here feel differently.

I wonder how some of the posters would behave if they found themselves in a vigilante mob with baseball bats.

HOWEVER, I AM FAR MORE UPSET WITH YOUR STATEMENTS, AS ALMOST ANY NATIVE-BORN NORTH AMERICAN WOULD BE :

1) No way do I accept any behaviour against Canadian laws by anyone here, if you don't like it, doesn't fit your idea of right and wrong, well, go back home or somewhere else. There's no way people should be given special treatment because of their beliefs, esp. in the case of murder.

2) Personally, I can't see how any religion that calls itself moral would consider an "honour killing" noble. This is however an opinion.

3) I think religion is a total waste of time and space. I think it is illogical and backward, moreover, I find the hold it has on the "truth" gives its leaders too much power. Still, people are free to practice any religion in our society so long as they don't violate our laws. I think Canada goes to GREAT lengths to accomodate people from other cultures. I think this is a concensus view.

4) People living here who object to such opinions, who feel that an "honour killing" of a woman for any reason like : she wore a mini-skirt, she flirted with a guy without my permission, she kissed a guy without my permission, she had sex with some randow guy she met in a bar and then had pork sausage the next morning for breakfast, she married someone you don't approve of - is appropriate then I think you had best get the hell out of this country ASAP because you are going to have problems with your daughters or grand-daughters for sure. Teenagers LIKE freedom and for sure they are going to want to live in western style no matter how much you try to indoctrinate them, maybe the more you try to indoctrinate them. You will not succeed in bringing up your children as you wish, much less your grandchildren so you had better leave or adapt 'cause you are doomed to major stress and disappointment.
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BTW dude, if you are so religious that you are afraid to write GOD then what the F*CK are you doing looking at escort reviews?
I mean, you say your religion means a great deal to you,right? Accepting its "commandments" is really important...
So, what gives?

 

[Mod 11]

Right ''you're an idiot'' is offensive yet there's nothing offensive about making calls for torture, beating the crap of..., having people drawned and quartered... but, hey, this site is for entertainment purposes. The writing contained in this site is in no manner intended to depict or describe, in a patently offensive way. Everything contained here is intended to be fiction and is for your entertainment and amusement only... You're off to a good start. Where's the vomithead?

There's a difference in expressing one's hypothetical line of conduct and calling somebody an idiot. Call me an optimistic but I tend to believe the peoples saying these enormity wouldn't actually do them if they had a chance.

Playing smart with me isn't the way to show you're ready to act nice either.