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That's MISTER Cairo to you.

I'm glad you realize however that your beloved Laffs are still worse than the habs...and since you constantly remark how bad the habs are, then the Laffs must REALLY suck.

Absolutely right.

Whenever the remarks and jokes comes from lafs fans I take it with a grain of salt.I mean 43 years and still counting with no championship and a less than respectable team is nothing to make fun of other team of.

Now if those sarcasm com from Redwings,Devils or Pens fans I would understand but form one of the worst franchise'fans in the past 45 years!!!!:eek:

Look at yourself lafs fans.Mahovlich,Keon,Horton ,Bower are long gone....
 

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AHHHH the True Scab fan finally appears.....

cry me a river :p it's hockey, injuries are part of the game, get over your "we have injuries, thats why we suck! wa wa wa !!! " ....... next excuse why your team is ALSO out of the playoff at this point in the season????? :rolleyes:


A fan who's expectations have been actually surpassed this year considering they played the whole year without Markov and more than have the year without Gionta.
 

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once again your hockey knowledge , errrrr LACK OF shines through.....the Leafs are a better team overall than Les Scabitants, we have ONE weakness, and thats in Goal, more so than are Dmen, a soft goal here and there will kill a teams confidence and when you always have to play extra "worried" well, then hence the problem as a team.... we need either the Monster to be healthy and see if he's the real deal or find another goalie, which doing so is a challenge, at least finding a capable one, ... our goal was simply to make the playoffs, and in Mid December with 40 plus games to go and only a few points out of a playoff spot, we are by no means out of it, especially after the horrible start, the difference is that scab fans as a whole were thinking not only to make the playoffs (after all it is their given right eh?) but were believing they were a top team, HAHA! now that is funny stuff....


now you understand , MS. Cairo? ;) :D




That's MISTER Cairo to you.

I'm glad you realize however that your beloved Laffs are still worse than the habs...and since you constantly remark how bad the habs are, then the Laffs must REALLY suck.
 

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Only ONE weakness? How about only ONE strength? Until the Leafs got Kessel, they were on an elevator with only one direction...down. That one player turned the team around so how can you say that having Markov back in the habs lineup won't do the same for them? And at the moment, the habs also have a goalie problem with Price's inability to keep his concentration up during the game. Yeah, he makes some great saves but seems to find a way to let in at least one bad goal per game and when your team is losing most of their games by one goal, that's one bad goal too many. I think it's time for Halak to have a shot by giving him a decent number of starts in a row instead of 1 ever 6 games or so.

By the way...how's Komi doing? :rolleyes:
 

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Only ONE weakness? How about only ONE strength? Until the Leafs got Kessel, they were on an elevator with only one direction...down. That one player turned the team around so how can you say that having Markov back in the habs lineup won't do the same for them? And at the moment, the habs also have a goalie problem with Price's inability to keep his concentration up during the game. Yeah, he makes some great saves but seems to find a way to let in at least one bad goal per game and when your team is losing most of their games by one goal, that's one bad goal too many. I think it's time for Halak to have a shot by giving him a decent number of starts in a row instead of 1 ever 6 games or so.

By the way...how's Komi doing? :rolleyes:

Sorry for quoting the whole post, but i have to answer each point you've made. The Leafs were playing good even before Kessel came back from his surgery. They regularly outshot the opposition, but experienced a lot of bad luck & a string of hot goalies. But you had to watch the games to believe what i just wrote.

I think a lot of people will be surprised that Markov's return won't have more of an impact on the team. As i've mentionned in other posts, Bergeron was doing as effective a job on offense. Maybe better than Markov would have. Defense is a different story (Bergeron is brutal defensively), but the problem right now isn't preventing goals, but scoring them.

Your comment about Price reminds me of what people are saying about Toskala. He's made some good saves in his past 4-5 games, but always seems to find a way to let in a soft goal, which is demoralizing to the team. Last night's flubber was downright embarrassing not just for Toskala & the Leafs, but to the entire NHL.

If the Habs don't have enough faith in Price, maybe they should give Halak a chance to be their number one goalie. But my personal impression is that Halak isn't strong enough to be a number one goalie. Like Toskala, he is a very good back-up goalie, where you can spot his starts & put the less pressure on him as possible. But who knows....

The Leafs have now unofficially anointed Jonas Gustaffson as their #1 goalie. He'll be put under the microscope for now on until the end of the season. On a one-year contract, that's when the Leafs brass will decide if they offer him another contract, and if he has the goods to be a legitimate #1 goalie. If so, they likely will offer him a nice raise on a multi-year deal. If not.....don't be surprised if Burke doesn't go after Carey Price, who is a restricted free agent at the end of the season & will likely get offers in the $5 million+ range from other teams, no matter how high the price of compensation will be. Most teams are aware that the Habs probably won't have the cap space to match those offers, so either a deal similar to what the Leafs & Bruins did in regards to the Phil Kessel trade will be made, or teams will just decide to bite the bullet & sign him, even if the compensation is 4 first-round picks. The Habs don't exactly have a spotless record when it comes to first-round picks, so the cost might not be as high as some people think. The Habs might also not elect to match (even if they would have cap space) since Andrei Markov is a free agent after the following season, and they'll likely make him one of the league's highest paid players if they want to keep him. If they re-sign Price, he'll be expensive this time around....and they likely wouldn't have any money left to re-sign Markov the following season. Which is also why they'll likely trade (or should) Tomas Plekanec prior to the trade deadline, since the chances of re-signing him are very small, even though both parties would probably want to stay together. The Habs need the cap space to re-sign Price....and if not, Markov.
 

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8 minutes in his first game back, Markov has a goal. Yup! I guess he won't be having any impact on the Habs :rolleyes:
 

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he has played great every since he got back from injury, settling in nicely, ty for asking ;)

Komisarek as 0 goals,2 assists and is minus 8 as we speak wich places him amongst the worst in the NHL at #711!:eek:

Still struggling to get the puck out of his zone,just like last year.:p
 

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So, how many points did he have the last few years when Mtl fans were cheering his every move, eh?

as a SCAB fan i am sure you dont watch many Leafs games, well, i do... 95% of them ... he has been doing his job since he got back from injury, he has made a few mistakes as do every single NHL player but for the most part he has been very good since his horrible start.... he has never been a "point" D man.... Points are not what got him his big contract .. he hits, blocks shots, clears his zone, and is a leader....



Komisarek as 0 goals,2 assists and is minus 8 as we speak wich places him amongst the worst in the NHL at #711!:eek:

Still struggling to get the puck out of his zone,just like last year.:p
 
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"that" was a nice shot indeed.......... hey, i appreciate good hockey, even if it is a Montreal Player...... at least i can give credit where it is due even when it concerns a Hab once in awhile...... besides,. Markov is a stand up guy like Kovalev was and Koivu...... kinda funny the foreign players seem to resemble what Les Habitants History is all about, more so than the local boys..., oups, nevermind, forgot about the "K Brothers" :p

Dayum! Markov got "lucky" again :D
 

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I think a lot of people will be surprised that Markov's return won't have more of an impact on the team. As i've mentionned in other posts, Bergeron was doing as effective a job on offense. Maybe better than Markov would have.

First star, 2 goals in a 3-0 win - maybe that could be defined as impact Doc.

But hey, one game proves nothing, so let's look at some history.

Last year Markov had 64 points, good for 2nd in habs scoring, behind Kovalev's 65. Markov's 64 points were also 2nd in league scoring by a defenceman, behind Mike Green's 73. Markov's 64 points were also more than any Leaf - Jason Blake led the Leafs with 63.

In the past three seasons, Markov has totalled 64, 58, and 49 points - not shabby for a D-man, and his point totals have improved in each of those three years (obviously his points will drop this year).

In the past three seasons, Bergeron has totalled 32, 19, and 46 points with the 46 being in the first year. To be fair he only played in 55 games the year he had 19.

Career up to start of current season: Markov has 329 points (74 G, 255 A) in 571 games. Bergeron: 160 (62 G, 98 A) in 339 games.

It's obvious Markov is a far more potent offensive force (although Bergeron is a more productive goal scorer)...but hey, why let facts get in the way of your analysis?
 

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once again your hockey knowledge , errrrr LACK OF shines through.....the Leafs are a better team overall than Les Scabitants, we have ONE weakness, and thats in Goal

Like many other posters, Ig, I do have hockey knowledge.

You however consistently demonstrate your lack of it by silly comments like this. If the Leafs are a better team overall then why are they still below the habs (and almost every other team - ha ha) at almost the halfway point of the season?

Oh and by the way last time I checked, the goalie was part of the team - probably the most important part. Thus if your "one weakness" (ha ha) is in goal, it's a pretty big freakin weakness...and maybe, just maybe, it means your TEAM sucks the big one.

But The Monstrosity got his first NHL shutout tonight so maybe you'll have to start looking for new excuses!

If you think you're showing hockey knowledge by 1) praying to a statue of Doc Holliiday each morning when you wake up, 2) ignoring FACTS left right and center and 3) using the "words" bwahaha and scabs every second sentence - I'm afraid you're sadly mistaken. It takes a little more than that to show you have even a basic understanding of the sport.

Finally, I know you have great difficulty with reading and writing, so I'll try not to be too judgemental, but as I 've told you before, the name is Cairo...MISTER Cairo.
 

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Komisarek as 0 goals,2 assists and is minus 8 as we speak wich places him amongst the worst in the NHL at #711!:eek:

Still struggling to get the puck out of his zone,just like last year.:p

But Cosmo, Iggy doesn't let FACTS get in the way of his silly statements. He either doesn't know the facts, can't understand the facts, or ignores the facts. He'd rather just say how great the Leafs are in spite of all evidence to the contrary.

In Komi's case as usual Iggy just doesn't know what's going on...and he just brushes aside your accurate factual response with more of his lame insulting BS.

Unfortunately logic doesn't work when you're dealing with someone like Iggy. At least Doc does know something about hockey and can give an honest opinion every now and then when he covers up the Leaf tattoo over his heart.
 

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So, how many points did he have the last few years when Mtl fans were cheering his every move, eh?

as a SCAB fan i am sure you dont watch many Leafs games, well, i do... 95% of them ... he has been doing his job since he got back from injury, he has made a few mistakes as do every single NHL player but for the most part he has been very good since his horrible start.... he has never been a "point" D man.... Points are not what got him his big contract .. he hits, blocks shots, clears his zone, and is a leader....

Yeah right: a "leader" who regularly hurts his team with foolish penalties, a "leader" whose stats place him among the worst players in the NHL, a "leader" whose team only started to improve when he was injured and off the ice. But as usual you ignore the facts and stats and simply start your response with the usual insults and name-calling. Do you ever actually use logic, facts or statistics in a debate, or are insulting people and making unsubstantiated pronouncements all you can bring to the table?
 

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So, how many points did he have the last few years when Mtl fans were cheering his every move, eh?

as a SCAB fan i am sure you dont watch many Leafs games, well, i do... 95% of them ... he has been doing his job since he got back from injury, he has made a few mistakes as do every single NHL player but for the most part he has been very good since his horrible start.... he has never been a "point" D man.... Points are not what got him his big contract .. he hits, blocks shots, clears his zone, and is a leader....

Well,prove you havent watched Habs games very often lately(ie;last season),he was severly critisized last year by both fans and medias for his inconsistency,lack of judgement,horrible first pass and loss of confidence after Lucic beat the crap out of him.

I feel sorry for you having watched 95% of this abobinable bunch's games.You must be bored to death.Oh,I almost fortgot,Komi got is 3 rd assist tonight and climbed a few ranked in the +/- standings.Probably 700 th as we speak!!!:D
 

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But Cosmo, Iggy doesn't let FACTS get in the way of his silly statements. He either doesn't know the facts, can't understand the facts, or ignores the facts. He'd rather just say how great the Leafs are in spite of all evidence to the contrary.

In Komi's case as usual Iggy just doesn't know what's going on...and he just brushes aside your accurate factual response with more of his lame insulting BS.

Unfortunately logic doesn't work when you're dealing with someone like Iggy. At least Doc does know something about hockey and can give an honest opinion every now and then when he covers up the Leaf tattoo over his heart.

Well what can I say JC.Love makes him blind!:p
 

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oh really? ROFL!!!!! thats why Les Scabitants were grooming Komi to be the next captain, when he was behind the bench when he was hurt.....you scab fans are so blinded it is simply hlarious....... i see Mrs. Cairo is not the only Scab fan living in glass houses eh???
Well,prove you havent watched Habs games very often lately(ie;last season),he was severly critisized last year by both fans and medias for his inconsistency,lack of judgement,horrible first pass and loss of confidence after Lucic beat the crap out of him.

I feel sorry for you having watched 95% of this abobinable bunch's games.You must be bored to death.Oh,I almost fortgot,Komi got is 3 rd assist tonight and climbed a few ranked in the +/- standings.Probably 700 th as we speak!!!:D
 

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sorry Ms. Cairo, (errr, i mean Joel) i am just following your lead :eek:

Do you ever actually use logic, facts or statistics in a debate, or are insulting people and making unsubstantiated pronouncements all you can bring to the table?
 
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