No Black men

[blow20102010]

Let me crystal clear if a sex worker wants to put boundaries to see or not see people of a certain they have every right. However if your pre judging an entire race that is called rascim.

I totally agree, But like I said, it is not my say. Me I don't care what you are, I'm myself a disable person. But also in my case especially I can understand if an SP is not comfortable disable person and I totally get it.

 

[Franco2332]

Back to OP question, he specified SP on LL 123, which are different from well established indies and Agencies.

“No black gents” does not apply to agencies. Has anyone seen this statement on any of XO euphoria Vog etc… website?

indies have very personal approach to screening such as references or some sort of identification such as gouv ID. I believe it has to do with WHO you are, not WHAT you are.

back to LL and 123, it’s a jungle on both sides. I’m not saying everyone is but a lot are B&S, pimped, feeding drug addiction, part of human trafficking…it’s hard to navigate through muddied waters. whoever behind, the girl or her pimp, don’t have time to screen each client individually. It’s a number game. Max clients, max $$. putting screening rules such as « NBM » or « no bookings past midnight » make them believe they will operate in a safer way to max out profit.

xoxo~
Kimi

I already got answer from euphoria that particular girl she don’t see black guy,
One sp who is well know in the industry told me that I was her first black client (She was in her 10 years as an escort) and that the booker forgot to tell her , usually she avoided them because she is scared of their big D lol.
After our meeting she was pleased and i think she was open to see black guys.
We are not all equipped like in those damn movies!!!

 

[tesla-tesla]

No statements from agencies themselves, but I've heard certain girls from agencies request that they not be booked with gents of a certain race (african americans included).

Sometimes agencies screen their clients for certain girls based on this.

Never had this happen yet, but apparently some agencies do ask for a client's nationality when booking in certain cases (https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/mina-xo-ex-bianka-mae-ex-yumi-escortsxo.193186/page-2#post-1447184).

I had been asked by bookers if I am black or not for specific girls

 

[Jules Bergeron]

The two SP was indy from humpchie back then in 2018. Definitely I can say that they were not your typical indy from indy companions or merb. But like I said, it is not my say. Me I don't care what you are, I'm myself a disable person. But also in my case especially I can understand if an SP is not comfortable disable person and I totally get it.

Thanks for your answer. I'm wondering if you can elaborate by "not your typical indy?"

 

[Jules Bergeron]

May I ask, is this not fiction?

 

[Jules Bergeron]

Everyone forgets about the most important thing, sex workers can blacklist Black clients because the majority of clients are White. Even if an escort has had bad experience with White customers she cannot afford to blacklist White customers she will loose 90% of her revenue. Everyone made valid points, we cannot pinpoint as to a singular reason, each sw has her own position on that.

Good evening: May I quote you? You said: "Even if an escort has had bad experience with White customers she cannot afford to blacklist White customers" If everyone is to understand your words correctly, it seems to imply that the SW is not in a position to create policies that apply to specific customers. The main OP question is about exclusion of one specific demographic. Is it fair to say the other specific demographic is hands off?

 

[Jules Bergeron]

Of course not. I've met providers that have told me they won't see old men, they are entitled to see or not see whoever they want.

CLOUD 500 said: "sex workers can blacklist Black clients because the majority of clients are White. Even if an escort has had bad experience with White customers she cannot afford to blacklist White customers..." The entitlement you refer to, what happens to it in the context of what CLOUD 500 is expressing?

 

[Jules Bergeron]

It's not a secret that there are no biological races & humans are all humans - no subspecies exist. Which is WHY racism is not actually based on any real (biological) racial differences. It's why racism is not based on anything real.

Mes amis: We can accept it or reject it. As soon as someone says one iota about race, that in and of itself is racist. There are issues in this industry which are more serious. Screening in order to protect our beloved providers based on the problems they face is beneficial to clients and providers alike. Blacklist bad clients is more effective than listing BLACK= bad clients. No?

 

[Jules Bergeron]

Screening and refusing clients based on race, ethnicity, or skin tone has nothing to do with safety. Any provider who claims this is either lying or dumb.

Touché! When life and death is on the line, and the phrase "No Black Men" is posted widely instead of something that might actually raise awareness, I proposed evidence that there is some pressure on that SW causing it. For the benefit of the clients, would you please share reasons if any that an ad might ignore the REAL dangers to the SW? Someone's life or freedom may depend on it.

 

[blow20102010]

Thanks for your answer. I'm wondering if you can elaborate by "not your typical indy?"

For me there's is 2 type of indy, the first one is your typical indy where they post on merb, indycompanion, tryst etc. These indy's has a certain reputation, they are safe, they do regular test, they are not scam, has certain values, they do it not only for the money etc. The second category is those on leolist, annonce intime etc where you can't be sure if it's a scam or not, you need to do more research, their thinking is not the same, some has pimp. Of course there is exception on both side.

 

[Jules Bergeron]

For me there's is 2 type of indy, the first one is your typical indy where they post on merb, indycompanion, tryst etc. These indy's has a certain reputation, they are safe, they do regular test, they are not scam, has certain values, they do it not only for the money etc. The second category is those on leolist, annonce intime etc where you can't be sure if it's a scam or not, you need to do more research, their thinking is not the same, some has pimp. Of course there is exception on both side.

Thank you for your informative answer. It helps me understand.
Is it fair to say that you can't be sure if it's not a scam. And those specific SPs could have pimps?

 

[Rebaynia]

Thank you for your informative answer. It helps me understand.
Is it fair to say that you can't be sure if it's not a scam. And those specific SPs could have pimps?

I don't think anything can be assumed. SPs have many different requirements that aren't even listed in their ads. It likely takes talking/messaging them and seeing how they respond. If they have a preference in their ad, then it just shows a preference. It doesn't necessarily mean there is some underlying hidden agenda behind why it is there. We all have different means for protecting ourselves, and trying to look for the kinds of expieriences we are comfortable with.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Good evening: May I quote you? You said: "Even if an escort has had bad experience with White customers she cannot afford to blacklist White customers" If everyone is to understand your words correctly, it seems to imply that the SW is not in a position to create policies that apply to specific customers. The main OP question is about exclusion of one specific demographic. Is it fair to say the other specific demographic is hands off?

I wrote that because the majority of customers are white. If an escort decides to exclude white customers she essentially looses over 80% of potential customers. I might be wrong but each time I got to any stripclub majority of customers are white so I suspect it might have the same demographic for escort customers.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Of course not. I've met providers that have told me they won't see old men, they are entitled to see or not see whoever they want.

I have yet to see or hear of that. I never seen it posted on any escort ad either.

 

[Like_It_Hot]

I have yet to see or hear of that. I never seen it posted on any escort ad either.

It does exist and there are post clearly stating no men over 55. I have seen on A123. Not common but yes.
Others don't write it but will do a screening afterward and will not book you.
Anyway it is easy to figure out a young lady not being at ease with men older than their father.
Other don't want to meet obese. It is a very intimate job. Those women have their own limits and it is their absolute right to accept or not going on with someone.

 

[CLOUD 500]

It does exist and there are post clearly stating no men over 55. I have seen on A123. Not common but yes.
Others don't write it but will do a screening afterward and will not book you.
Anyway it is easy to figure out a young lady not being at ease with men older than their father.
Other don't want to meet obese. It is a very intimate job. Those women have their own limits and it is their absolute right to accept or not going on with someone.

I get that for girls having their limits, just saying that I never seen it, I will pay closer attention to that detail when looking at ads. I will take your word for it.