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None---and you know it----- will influence this tyran---except CHINA...military action...planes for Ukraine???,,,you are really ready for WW111...some are more concerned and responsable............all the EUROPEAN leaders are also in the same boat.

This is a golden opportunity for China. All they really want is access to Russia's resources.

So...say they support Russia ===> get access to Russia's resources. Downside: get associated with butchery, China gets sanctioned.

They don't support Russia ===> still get access to Russia's resources, on the sly. Probably at a discount, since Russia is desperate.

No upside to supporting Russia at all. Might as well profit off its misery.
 
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Hilarious if true...like going to check your buried piggy bank and realizing someone filled it with gravel




The end result? Equipment that breaks down at its most basic level. When I was in Cuba a few years back, I was able to buy cigars from a guy who worked at the official state factory making them. Everyone pilfered a certain amount, which they would then sell on the black market. That’s what’s clearly happening here: the Rothenbergs and other arms manufacturers pilfer; the steel-, iron-, and component-manufacturers pilfer; the plant managers pilfer; the employees pilfer; the unit commanders pilfer; the supply officers pilfer; the soldiers pilfer. It’s a wonderful grift. Everyone benefits! Well, except when war is called. Suddenly, all that equipment that was supposedly in the field turns out to have been an illusion, long sold off for Italian villas and bottles of vodka. That’s likely why we haven’t seen much of a Russian Air Force in action. I bet they can’t even get their birds in the air.
 
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None---and you know it----- will influence this tyran---except CHINA...military action...planes for Ukraine???,,,you are really ready for WW111...some are more concerned and responsable............all the EUROPEAN leaders are also in the same boat.
You talk about being concerned and responsible.
This incompetent senile idiot is too chicken shit to supply Ukraine with planes and missiles to defend themselves yet he is stupid enough to actually call for the assassination of Putin on the world stage. How would you explain “ Putin cannot remain in Power”
This is the man the US has picked to represent them in front of the world.
So fucking sad it is not even funny anymore.
 
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It's easy for us dans notre salon en chaussettes sirotant notre café de décider du sort du monde...i much much prefer let the INTERNATIONAL leaders avec leurs conseillers militaires décider....pas mal plus équipés...lol... ;) .
 

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It's easy for us dans notre salon en chaussettes sirotant notre café de décider du sort du monde...i much much prefer let the INTERNATIONAL leaders avec leurs conseillers militaires décider....pas mal plus équipés...lol... ;) .
No Gaby that is not it at all you have decided that Bidet in your mind can do no wrong.
He is a useless senile old fool who puts his foot in his mouth every time he opens it.
As for sitting on the couch, yes it is true in your case, however I went through this exact same thing and watched children not much older than me going up against Russian tanks, saw people being shot and buildings being toppled with tank fire, the ordinary citizen going up against and attacking the secret police with their bare hands.
The west stood by then also and watched as countless countries were ”helped by Russia“ this caused 50 years of misery for millions of people and no I am not the one that is just attaching smiley and winking faces to my posts but someone who actually knows what the Ukrainian people are suffering and going through.
 

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You don't read what i wrote....INTERNATIONAL LEADERS....keep bitching BIDEN..what he said traduit exactement ce que pensent l'ensemble des leaders et du monde... not politically correct BUT so true....very very sorry for your miserable life...hope you enjoy it now.
 

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He is a useless senile old fool who puts his foot in his mouth every time he opens it.
Fradi, I agree on certain points, but not totally.

Yes Biden is old, and sometimes he puts his foot in his mouth, but he has feelings, Biden is a human being.

That said, Fradi you would have preferred to see Trump instead.
To see an inhuman president, who thinks only of his personal well-being, who at the beginning of the conflict said that Putin was a genius, and yesterday during his rally said that Biden was not doing enough in Ukraine.

You would have preferred such a narcissistic president, who like a leaf in the wind, goes on the windward side.
Once again he thinks only of winning his elections.
 

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Yes Biden is old, and sometimes he puts his foot in his mouth, but he has feelings, Biden is a human being.
It's not about Biden v. Trump. Which is an irrelevant discussion. Biden is the leader now and he is old, puts his foot in his mouth and just yaps like a little dog. He has been frightened about taking more aggressive actions, and unfortunately his being frightened means Ukrainians have died horrible deaths. The invasion of Ukraine was due to Putin perceiving, very, very correctly, a weak response from Biden. To say that Biden has been Putin's enabler is not an inaccurate statement.
 
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LOL, the same Trump who had this speech (among many, many others) ??? I get a mini stroke trying to understand his verbal diarrhea

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he is stupid enough to actually call for the assassination of Putin on the world stage. How would you explain “ Putin cannot remain in Power”
I don`t read those words as a call to assassination but a call for regime change. Still not politically acceptable to say it in public, but the majority of the free world wishes it without saying so.
As far as China not siding with Russia.....will never happen.
China needs Russia to win this war so they can take the same action against Taiwan and have Russian support.
 
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I wonder if Biden's military advisors suggested those comments in order to embolden would be assassins or rebels. However, Secretary of State Blinken seriously walked back Biden's remarks to the point of contradicting them:
 

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Fradi, I agree on certain points, but not totally.

Yes Biden is old, and sometimes he puts his foot in his mouth, but he has feelings, Biden is a human being.

That said, Fradi you would have preferred to see Trump instead.
To see an inhuman president, who thinks only of his personal well-being, who at the beginning of the conflict said that Putin was a genius, and yesterday during his rally said that Biden was not doing enough in Ukraine.

You would have preferred such a narcissistic president, who like a leaf in the wind, goes on the windward side.
Once again he thinks only of winning his elections.
Why do you keep on bringing up Trump he is gone why can’t you get over him, will you forever be addicted.
What difference does it make what Trump says he is an egotistical asshole what ever he says holds zero weight he has no decision making power.
Bidet unfortunately is the one in charge someone who is so fucking dumb he can’t even follow a speech that was written for him, he has to improvise and without sending a single plane or soldier into Ukraine manages to antagonize Putin even worse by basically calling for his assassination very few leaders would be that stupid even if secretly there are plans to do just that.
Biden is a human being, yes a stupid senile useless one not fit to run an old age home let alone the United States and the free world.
How many Ukrainians are being helped and save d by his feelings right now maybe he will resort to the usual and send hope and prayers lol.
 
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Russian troops captured by Ukrainian forces have urged soldiers to denounce and rise up against Putin.

Give love and compassion to the Ukrainian People and to these young men and their families they don’t deserve this.
 
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You don't read what i wrote....INTERNATIONAL LEADERS....keep bitching BIDEN..what he said traduit exactement ce que pensent l'ensemble des leaders et du monde... not politically correct BUT so true....very very sorry for your miserable life...hope you enjoy it now.
There is no need to feel sorry for me I didn’t have a miserable life and don’t, we escaped with my parents I grew up in a number of countries. For me even refugee camps weren’t all that bad, no school and I got to play with hundreds of kids all day, we made soccer balls out of old socks, rags and had a great time, now my parents that is a whole different story.
Later on got to see the world on company money was married to the woman of my dreams for a life time and still have a fabulous family and grandchildren and I get to see a number of gorgeous women on a regular basis.
That however doesn’t take away from knowing what the Ukrainian people are going through those memories stay with you a lifetime no matter what you make of your life afterwards.
 

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This is a golden opportunity for China. All they really want is access to Russia's resources.

So...say they support Russia ===> get access to Russia's resources. Downside: get associated with butchery, China gets sanctioned.

They don't support Russia ===> still get access to Russia's resources, on the sly. Probably at a discount, since Russia is desperate.

No upside to supporting Russia at all.
You forget that China wants Taiwan. They might support Russia and use this war as a smoke screen to get Taiwan.
 

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China is taking notes on all sanction against Russia; in the next years they will work out a counter to each possible Western sanction, so that if/ when they decide to invade Taiwan, the Senkakus or any of the many shoals, reefs, banks and islands on the South China Sea, they won't be as critically affected as the Russians. China is the 2nd world economy, projected to surpass the USA in less than a decade; so it won't be as easy to sanction it as it is to go after economic pygmy Russia.

That said, I am sure the Chinese are seriously re-assessing their capability to invade Taiwan, as they are still relaying on Soviet/ Russian technology and this war has demonstrated it is very difficult to "close the airspace" of a western arms equipped nation, something that is fundamental for any amphibious operation. The fact that Taiwan is an island hundreds of miles offshore would compound their problems exponentially, making the Russian-Ukrainian invasion look trivially easy in comparison.
 
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