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You will have to explain this to me, it isn't true according to the way the rules are in the NHL or logic or simple math...
Tiga look at the standings. Habs are 4 points from sole possession of 1st and 4 points from sole possession of 9th.9th means you go home. This is a 5 second math when you look at the standings.
I don't know why I bother, if you guys just want to blurb any lie or what not and agree with one another well you can keep this thread for yourself.
Where is that true that the habs are not playoff bound?
They lead the division and if the season ended now would have ice advantage on most teams.
I don't mind having oposing points of view discussions but they have to be based in reality.
Where is that true that the habs are not playoff bound?
They lead the division and if the season ended now would have ice advantage on most teams.
I don't mind having oposing points of view discussions but they have to be based in reality.
Reality is they are 4 points from 1st and 4 points from out of playoffs. There is no other reality. All that matters are conference standings and that's all I look at
Montreal, Ottawa, Boston, NY, Pitts, Columbus with Flyers and Capitals as wild cards, if the season ended today are in the.playoffs.
These are the standings according to:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/m_standings.htm?type=WC&season=20162017
Every team is close but the Habs have games in hand and only 7 losses.
If you take 4 points from them, they are still leading the Atlantic division, so I don't get your reasoning.
Then again I don't know the future like you guys do....
These are the standings according to:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/m_standings.htm?type=WC&season=20162017
Every team is close but the Habs have games in hand and only 7 losses.
If you take 4 points from them, they are still leading the Atlantic division, so I don't get your reasoning.
Then again I don't know the future like you guys do....
The playoffs as far as I know are not decided by the conference but by the.divisions and 2 wild cards...
The top 3 of every divisions make for six teams and.the two wildcards make 8.
To make the playoffs, you need to be in the top three of your division, if not then be the wild card wich is the top 2 teams left in the conference.
To be out of the playoffs, Tampa would have to pass them and they are 11 points back.
This is based on the NHL rules, you have to play by the rules guys, or what's the point of having a discussion...
The top 3 of every divisions make for six teams and.the two wildcards make 8.
To make the playoffs, you need to be in the top three of your division, if not then be the wild card wich is the top 2 teams left in the conference.
To be out of the playoffs, Tampa would have to pass them and they are 11 points back.
This is based on the NHL rules, you have to play by the rules guys, or what's the point of having a discussion...
If you were to consider only the conferences and for some reason take 4 points off the Canadiens they would be in 7th in the East.
So I still don't understand what is your reasoning...
So I still don't understand what is your reasoning...
Tiga are you serious?
Right now (as of your last post) the last wild card has 41 points:
http://www.espn.com/nhl/standings/_/type/wildcard
Montreal has 44 points
44-4=40 = 9th place. What do you not understand about these basic maths?
If you are going to make up math to put them in 7th place and it makes you feel better as a fan, go for it- but dude 44-4 =40 every time on a calculator and 40 = going home and not the playoffs. Math is math and reality is reality- grab a glove and get in the game!
It's not to feel better, or basic math mistakes, your premise is wrong, Boston at 37 points is in the playoffs and so is Ottawa. Take 4 points from the Habs they are still ahead of them....
This was my post and this is the way it is done in the league:
take off as many as you want still the top three of the division make playoffs...
The playoffs as far as I know are not decided by the conference but by the.divisions and 2 wild cards...
The top 3 of every divisions make for six teams and.the two wildcards make 8.
To be out of the playoffs, Tampa would have to pass them and they are 11 points back.
since then they have won against Anaheim.
you don<t seem to be playing by the rules of the league
the wild cards could all have more than the top three in the division, the top three are still in the playoffs.
This was my post and this is the way it is done in the league:
take off as many as you want still the top three of the division make playoffs...
The playoffs as far as I know are not decided by the conference but by the.divisions and 2 wild cards...
The top 3 of every divisions make for six teams and.the two wildcards make 8.
To be out of the playoffs, Tampa would have to pass them and they are 11 points back.
since then they have won against Anaheim.
you don<t seem to be playing by the rules of the league
the wild cards could all have more than the top three in the division, the top three are still in the playoffs.
Do all the basic math you want, add hypothetical points, substract imaginary ponts, I don't care, you guys are on your own...
Add 20 ponts to the Leafs....hey they lead the league...this is crazy!
I will come back when the playoffs start.
Add 20 ponts to the Leafs....hey they lead the league...this is crazy!
I will come back when the playoffs start.
Tiga with all due respect from this post and your others you do not understand how to read hockey standings.
First of all, the wild cards cannot have more points than the top 3 because then they are not wild cards.
Second it is a very simple formula and I will tell you what to do:
(1) Open ESPN wild card standings.
(2) Determine how many points the last wild card team has.
(3) Subtract 1 point from that team's total.
(4) Look at difference between your team's total and total reached in step 3.
(5) That is how far your team is from "out of playoffs."
EXAMPLE:
As of today the NY Rangers have 47 points.
Washington, last wild card team, has 41 points.
40 points means you are out of playoffs.
47-40= NY Rangers are 7 points away from being out of playoffs.
If your team is "out of playoffs" at the moment:
(1) Open ESPN wild card standings.
(2) Look at how many points the last wild card team has.
(3) Add one point.
(4) Subtract your team's points from total reached in steo 3.
(5) That is how far you team is away from clinching playoffs.
EXAMPLE:
Washington is last wild card with 41 points.
41+1 = 42
Toronto has 31 points.
42-31= 11. Toronto is 11 points away from clinching playoffs.
Nothing else matters, The teams are bunched and you are looking at first place when you should be looking at how far your team is away from being out of the playoffs. At a certain point there will not be enough games that can be lost to allow playoffs to slip away, and then playoffs are clinched.
This formula does assume other teams are or will be beating at a wild card door and at the moment that is not happening in the Eastern Conference.
How condesending can you be?
1) DO NOT OPEN ESPN wild card standings
You need to see the divison standings with the wildcards.
If not, then you are not looking at the big picture, look at all the standings.
The two wild card teams are in a different division than the Habs, the Bruins and the Senators.And to be out of the playoffs,one of.these teams would have to be bumped by Tampa, or another in that same division.
The Metropolitan has better teams than the Atlantic, that is why Flyers and Caps are in the top six of the conference, but make the playoff cut aswild cards.
Look at all the standings not just the ESPN wildcard race.
If you don'see it, then explain how the Bruins are in the playoffs with 37 points?
I don't know if something got lost in translation or what but I don't know how to explain it better than that.
And if you still don't get it it's just too bad, ask Doc to explainit to you, I have waisted enough time.
We should be arguing about who is the hottest babe in the business or something like that.
ça fini par ressembler à de la mauvaise foi.
1) DO NOT OPEN ESPN wild card standings
You need to see the divison standings with the wildcards.
If not, then you are not looking at the big picture, look at all the standings.
The two wild card teams are in a different division than the Habs, the Bruins and the Senators.And to be out of the playoffs,one of.these teams would have to be bumped by Tampa, or another in that same division.
The Metropolitan has better teams than the Atlantic, that is why Flyers and Caps are in the top six of the conference, but make the playoff cut aswild cards.
Look at all the standings not just the ESPN wildcard race.
If you don'see it, then explain how the Bruins are in the playoffs with 37 points?
I don't know if something got lost in translation or what but I don't know how to explain it better than that.
And if you still don't get it it's just too bad, ask Doc to explainit to you, I have waisted enough time.
We should be arguing about who is the hottest babe in the business or something like that.
ça fini par ressembler à de la mauvaise foi.
Martin St-Louis was indeed quite a steal by Tampa. Any team in the league could have got him for free when Calgary put him on waivers.
Bretty Hull was also quite a steal by the St-Louis Blues. So was Phil Esposito by the Bruins and his brother Tony by the Blackhawks. Tony was stolen from the habs.
This is all too complicated to follow. Why don't we agree to let the season play out and see who the 8 playoff teams are at the end.
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