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If you want to talk seriously, you have to KNOW the complete picture.
ELECTRICITY cost 2 times what we pay in Québec. A rent or a house in TORONTO cost twice as much as in MONTREAL. If you have to pay for a kindergarden, it is much more expensive... and so on. If you think your life would be better there, move on.

Oh! This thread is suppose to be about Valérie Plante. If your post is deleted, I guess mine will be also. AMEN!
All in all, we can say that in Quebec we are the most taxed in north america.

Income taxes, tvq, etc.

Part of the problem is because more 40% of the people don’t pay taxes.

If you earn less than 20,000 (single working person) you will receive money from the state.

A couple with a child earning 45,000 (around that amount) will not pay taxes.

But that same couple, if their income increases to 50,000, they now loose a lot if not all their allowances and they will pay 4,000 in income taxes on the extra 10,000. All in all, on the extra 10,000 they will keep only 3,000$.

Overtime anybody ?
 

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This LGBTQ thing is out of control, and its not about to go away, a simple trip at a grocery store last week the cashier was a man near 30 with is nailed polish but also extended, he notice that i was looking at them so the rest of the service was bad attitude.

This society is far from being saved. From what I read Plante only does stupidities, she knows Montreal is in bad shape she just ignores it, like the metro is safe, the beggars being violent, crimes etc. Plante is a real joke like Trudeau.
 
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^^^^^ Only a far-left idiot like Plante would do this. We all know about the dumb bike paths, here is an example of Plante doing what she wants despite the people who elected her to say not to. What she does is she takes existing streets that are two way, builds a bike path in either one side or two sides, making the street smaller and removing many parking spots. And the worst is the street becomes one lane one direction. In this time of mass immigration, why would anyone intentionally make traffic congestion worse? Remember this is Canada where 6 months out of 12 is it too cold. Many people mainly seniors have mobility issues and they need their cars to get around. Also trying to do your groceries in the bus is no easy task lifting heavy bags. There are schools and church along Terrebonne Ave in NDG. Parents need to drop off their kids and people go to church. The church has seen a big decline in attendance, marriages, and funerals. There examples of this sort all over the city. Montreal has way more miles of bike lanes then Sydney. It is ridiculous. The next mayor will have to spend more taxpayers money to undo this nonsense.
 

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^^^^^ Only a far-left idiot like Plante would do this. We all know about the dumb bike paths, here is an example of Plante doing what she wants despite the people who elected her to say not to. What she does is she takes existing streets that are two way, builds a bike path in either one side or two sides, making the street smaller and removing many parking spots. And the worst is the street becomes one lane one direction. In this time of mass immigration, why would anyone intentionally make traffic congestion worse? Remember this is Canada where 6 months out of 12 is it too cold. Many people mainly seniors have mobility issues and they need their cars to get around. Also trying to do your groceries in the bus is no easy task lifting heavy bags. There are schools and church along Terrebonne Ave in NDG. Parents need to drop off their kids and people go to church. The church has seen a big decline in attendance, marriages, and funerals. There examples of this sort all over the city. Montreal has way more miles of bike lanes then Sydney. It is ridiculous. The next mayor will have to spend more taxpayers money to undo this nonsense.
I’ll take survival of a bike path over survival of
a church :)

People voted for her. She promised bike paths. I drive on that street once in a while and park there too, it seems fine.

this feels overblown. Lots of reasons to hate the left (or the right). A bike path on a low traffic road ain’t one!
 
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I’ll take survival of a bike path over survival of
a church :)

People voted for her. She promised bike paths. I drive on that street once in a while and park there too, it seems fine.

this feels overblown. Lots of reasons to hate the left (or the right). A bike path on a low traffic road ain’t one!
Perhaps for this area, but I seen many others and it is bad. Restaurants and other businesses can get affected. Fullum street is a good example, that street has always been two way but she reduced it to a narrow one lane one direction street between Ontario and Sherbrooke. Just makes no sense. Her goal is clearly to force cars off the road, but people will simply go to the suburbs. The worst thing for car traffic are one direction streets. It causes more traffic congestion. In Toronto for example almost all streets are two way. Sure people voted for her, but they did not vote for this. I believe everything should be voted on. A fault in the democratic system were once a politician gets elected, they can do whatever they want till the next election.
 

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Like Trudeau destroyed Canada Plante destroyed Montreal, how many business did she bankrupt with her stupidities, seeing her hypocrite smile and saying to solve the violence in Montreal we will take away policemen firearms, the worse thing is she is still in power doing stupid things day in and day out and getting away with it.

In the mean time a few other Countries started mass deportation which is a good thing because since Covid 19 all we see in violence are from Immigrant names we never had it bad like this before. Lets hope Canada gets into this massive deportation and get this country back on track. Even a guy got shot in daily light near Carrefour Laval yesterday do now its not even safe to go walk during the day. WTF is going on here.
 

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Like Trudeau destroyed Canada Plante destroyed Montreal, how many business did she bankrupt with her stupidities, seeing her hypocrite smile and saying to solve the violence in Montreal we will take away policemen firearms, the worse thing is she is still in power doing stupid things day in and day out and getting away with it.

In the mean time a few other Countries started mass deportation which is a good thing because since Covid 19 all we see in violence are from Immigrant names we never had it bad like this before. Lets hope Canada gets into this massive deportation and get this country back on track. Even a guy got shot in daily light near Carrefour Laval yesterday do now its not even safe to go walk during the day. WTF is going on here.
Deportation and déchéance de nationalité wont happen in liberal-ndp woke land.

Trudo have à clientélisme political agenda.

Our beloved country is not heading in the right direction.

We need immigrants because we don’t have a birth rate sustainable in the long run. But we must choose them wisely.

And don’t forget : Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.
 

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Deportation and déchéance de nationalité wont happen in liberal-ndp woke land.

Trudo have à clientélisme political agenda.

Our beloved country is not heading in the right direction.

We need immigrants because we don’t have a birth rate sustainable in the long run. But we must choose them wisely.

And don’t forget : Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.
Yes I know that, but Trudeau lowered is selection for immigration and now almost anyone can get in the country. This is why so many criminals are in now.

We got some immigrant at work they are educated, civilized, and hard working. Those are ok.

You are right about the invasion thing we are being invaded. And its not going to end well
 
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Yes I know that, but Trudeau lowered is selection for immigration and now almost anyone can get in the country. This is why so many criminals are in now.

We got some immigrant at work they are educated, civilized, and hard working. Those are ok.

You are right about the invasion thing we are being invaded. And its not going to end well
With the murder of the crypto guy in front of carrefour Laval in daylight its now clear that police need to move on crime. They have ask for longer and stronger sentence, this catch and release thing is not working and favours the criminals dumb ass Trudeau, more police force, ways to bloc cell phone signal from the prison, apparently both detain Arab power leader send there orders from there prison cell, drones etc. No sure how they get there hands on smart phones in prison but even then.

If you murder someone you should be put away for life, not 4 years and reintegrated. And police should be allowed to be violent with criminals, so they would be scared to commit crimes.
 

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Another article in the JDM this morning about how police are puzzled with the recent rise of crime in the city. I always remember a line from John Rambo 2006, when all those preachers were going into Burma to change things Rambo ask them are you bringing any guns they said no we are peaceful people, then he said you are not going to change anything.

Its the same thing as being bullied when you are young, the only way its going to stop is to fight back because most bullies are not used to this. As long as Plante and the rest of those incompetent idiots are going to push there agenda of being nice no violence its not going to change a thing.

Plante and Trudeau need to go, and be replace by people who have balls to do what it takes to make this country safe again, were the small time criminal and the big time criminal pay for any type of crime and start to be scared of the police.
 

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Another article in the JDM this morning about how police are puzzled with the recent rise of crime in the city. I always remember a line from John Rambo 2006, when all those preachers were going into Burma to change things Rambo ask them are you bringing any guns they said no we are peaceful people, then he said you are not going to change anything.

Its the same thing as being bullied when you are young, the only way its going to stop is to fight back because most bullies are not used to this. As long as Plante and the rest of those incompetent idiots are going to push there agenda of being nice no violence its not going to change a thing.

Plante and Trudeau need to go, and be replace by people who have balls to do what it takes to make this country safe again, were the small time criminal and the big time criminal pay for any type of crime and start to be scared of the police.
When you get your facts from the JdM. it explains pretty well your right wing borderline intolerant opinions. I understand why you relate to Poilievre.
 
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With the murder of the crypto guy in front of carrefour Laval in daylight its now clear that police need to move on crime. They have ask for longer and stronger sentence, this catch and release thing is not working and favours the criminals dumb ass Trudeau, more police force, ways to bloc cell phone signal from the prison, apparently both detain Arab power leader send there orders from there prison cell, drones etc. No sure how they get there hands on smart phones in prison but even then.

If you murder someone you should be put away for life, not 4 years and reintegrated. And police should be allowed to be violent with criminals, so they would be scared to commit crimes.
Dude maybe you don't know...but Val is mayor of Montreal.. not Laval.

You are welcome
 

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^^^^^ Only a far-left idiot like Plante would do this. We all know about the dumb bike paths, here is an example of Plante doing what she wants despite the people who elected her to say not to. What she does is she takes existing streets that are two way, builds a bike path in either one side or two sides, making the street smaller and removing many parking spots. And the worst is the street becomes one lane one direction. In this time of mass immigration, why would anyone intentionally make traffic congestion worse? Remember this is Canada where 6 months out of 12 is it too cold. Many people mainly seniors have mobility issues and they need their cars to get around. Also trying to do your groceries in the bus is no easy task lifting heavy bags. There are schools and church along Terrebonne Ave in NDG. Parents need to drop off their kids and people go to church. The church has seen a big decline in attendance, marriages, and funerals. There examples of this sort all over the city. Montreal has way more miles of bike lanes then Sydney. It is ridiculous. The next mayor will have to spend more taxpayers money to undo this nonsense.
If there is a road for cars and a sidewalk for pedestrians. Why wouldn't cyclists be aloud to have a bike path? They pay taxes
 

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This LGBTQ thing is out of control, and its not about to go away, a simple trip at a grocery store last week the cashier was a man near 30 with is nailed polish but also extended, he notice that i was looking at them so the rest of the service was bad attitude.

This society is far from being saved. From what I read Plante only does stupidities, she knows Montreal is in bad shape she just ignores it, like the metro is safe, the beggars being violent, crimes etc. Plante is a real joke like Trudeau.
Moderator - this guy has been on for a month (probably banned) and just spreading hate and stupidity.
 
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I’ll take survival of a bike path over survival of
a church :)

People voted for her. She promised bike paths. I drive on that street once in a while and park there too, it seems fine.

this feels overblown. Lots of reasons to hate the left (or the right). A bike path on a low traffic road ain’t one!
Blaming the bike path for the decline of the church..I guess he never read the quiet revolution.lol.
 

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Dude maybe you don't know...but Val is mayor of Montreal.. not Laval.

You are welcome
You gotta love it replying to all my post you have no life and reported as troll ho thank you and BTW Val is mairesse de MTL i kind of knew that.
 

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You gotta love it replying to all my post you have no life and reported as troll ho thank you and BTW Val is mairesse de MTL i kind of knew that.


See it as form of free education for the
weak minded .

Then don't mix the subjects...Laval is Laval..not Montreal. Maybe you should then talk about crime in trois rivières.
 

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If there is a road for cars and a sidewalk for pedestrians. Why wouldn't cyclists be aloud to have a bike path? They pay taxes
The way it is done is all wrong. I even explained it, turning a street into a one lane one direction street is ludicrous. It makes no sense. Only in Montreal will you see this. See look at Ste-Catherine St, Plante tripled the width of the sidewalk and made it one lane. It is stupid. There are better ways to go about it. The reality is the city did very poor infrastructure planning, probably to save money. As population grew, instead of creating new streets, they kept on densifying existing areas but maintaining the same streets. Plante is actively forcing cars out by what she is doing. It is intentional and based on a misguided far-left ideology. Just saying, there are better ways to go about it. The sidewalks should be narrowed by half, a bike lane can be added. Make all streets two direction even one lane each direction makes sense. Large main streets, no parallel parking. Make it two direction with added lanes. As for bike paths, new streets have to be created to accomodate bike paths. What the city is doing is short sighted.
 
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The way it is done is all wrong. I even explained it, turning a street into a one lane one direction street is ludicrous. It makes no sense. Only in Montreal will you see this. See look at Ste-Catherine St, Plante tripled the width of the sidewalk and made it one lane. It is stupid. There are better ways to go about it. The reality is the city did very poor infrastructure planning, probably to save money. As population grew, instead of creating new streets, they kept on densifying existing areas but maintaining the same streets. Plante is actively forcing cars out by what she is doing. It is intentional and based on a misguided far-left ideology. Just saying, there are better ways to go about it. The sidewalks should be narrowed by half, a bike lane can be added. Make all streets two direction even one lane each direction makes sense. Large main streets, no parallel parking. Make it two direction with added lanes. As for bike paths, new streets have to be created to accomodate bike paths. What the city is doing is short sighted.
You know we live on an island? And Montreal is 400 years old with neighborhood built over a 100 years ago

You know what we call guys like you?
"Carbrained" you demonstrate it perfectly. Seeing life thru your windshield.

I could destroy every single argument that you present with basic common sense.

Ok..just for the fun of it

Ste Catherine Street is packed with pedestrians.
Narrowing the sidewalk you say!? I say think about pedestrians, the handicap or just kids in strollers.

Who is is going to benefit? Your car?

New streets? What are you talking about? People move to Montreal to live in existing neighborhoods. Not to live in Blainville. If you want a new street with no sidewalk go to st Lambert or Outremont or Ste Thérèse.

By the way, you can't destroy a neighborhood and rebuild it with bigger roads.. this means less people will be able to live there.

Why 2 direction streets? So it saves you that extra 8 seconds? To do what? If you had kids or lived on that street..you would complain about the noise.

Like I said.. carbrained.
 

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Around the corner
The way it is done is all wrong. I even explained it, turning a street into a one lane one direction street is ludicrous. It makes no sense. Only in Montreal will you see this. See look at Ste-Catherine St, Plante tripled the width of the sidewalk and made it one lane. It is stupid. There are better ways to go about it. The reality is the city did very poor infrastructure planning, probably to save money. As population grew, instead of creating new streets, they kept on densifying existing areas but maintaining the same streets. Plante is actively forcing cars out by what she is doing. It is intentional and based on a misguided far-left ideology. Just saying, there are better ways to go about it. The sidewalks should be narrowed by half, a bike lane can be added. Make all streets two direction even one lane each direction makes sense. Large main streets, no parallel parking. Make it two direction with added lanes. As for bike paths, new streets have to be created to accomodate bike paths. What the city is doing is short sighted.
Glad I live in the suburbs and only visit Montreal when I see SP.
Would never live again downtown with all the nonsense and taxes that Plante has created.
Her and Trudeau are the worst things to have hit Montreal, they both need to go. Wouldn’t mind seeing the arrogant dictator Legault thrown out either.
Montreal hasn’t had a decent mayor in decades, the previous egotistical asshole leprechaun wasn’t much better.
 
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