Weapons in USA

[CLOUD 500]

This is Elisjsha Dicken, the 22 year old HERO who stopped the mass shooter with his own handgun while shopping with his girlfriend at the Indiana shopping mall. Spread him far and wide because you know the Liberals will not.

Police applaud armed citizen who killed 20-year-old Indiana mall shooter

Police identified and applauded the 22-year-old who shot and killed a gunman who opened fire on a Greenwood, Indiana, shopping mall.

abcnews.go.com

 

[gaby]

So yep....allons tous au resto et magasiner avec une arme à la main....ainsi si on aime pas la note ou le service...on saura comment régler ça...lolllll

 

[sene5hos]

So yep....allons tous au resto et magasiner avec une arme à la main....ainsi si on aime pas la note ou le service...on saura comment régler ça...lolllll

Yes, with a AR15

 

[gaby]

Oui tu as tout compris....lol...et si notre voisin nous déplaît...on lui règle son compte...lolll

 

[sene5hos]

https://www.wpbf.com/article/florida-parkland-nikolas-cruz-sentencing-trial/40627591#

The penalty trial of Florida school shooter Nikolas Cruz began on Monday, the deadliest U.S. mass shooting to go before a jury.

A jury of seven men and five women were sworn in to decide whether Cruz, 23, should be sentenced to death or get life in prison.

Seventeen students and staff were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Feb. 14, 2018. Seventeen others were injured.

Cruz pleaded guilty in October to those murders and 17 counts of attempted murder, so the jurors will only decide his punishment.
They must be unanimous for Cruz to get the death penalty.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Many people are now saying that this incident shows why you need to arm the citizenry, rather than take their guns away:

What we know about the armed bystander who killed the shooter at an Indiana mall | CNN

Dressed in shorts and a T-shirt, Elisjsha Dicken was shopping with his girlfriend when a gunman opened fire on a food court at a Greenwood, Indiana, mall Sunday evening, killing three people and wounding two others.

www.cnn.com

If you have armed Rambo-type bystanders foil a few mass shootings, they will stop. Mass shooters prey on the weak, and fear the strong.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Many people are now saying that this incident shows why you need to arm the citizenry, rather than take their guns away:

What we know about the armed bystander who killed the shooter at an Indiana mall | CNN

Dressed in shorts and a T-shirt, Elisjsha Dicken was shopping with his girlfriend when a gunman opened fire on a food court at a Greenwood, Indiana, mall Sunday evening, killing three people and wounding two others.

www.cnn.com

If you have armed Rambo-type bystanders foil a few mass shootings, they will stop. Mass shooters prey on the weak, and fear the strong.

That is exactly what I have been saying all along. Of course Liberal voters are more interested in ideology vs practical results.

 

[anon_vlad]

That is exactly what I have been saying all along. Of course Liberal voters are more interested in ideology vs practical results.

Imagine if everyone in the mall had a weapon and fired. Of course, none of them would miss. All of them would hit the shooter in the heart and nobody would get hit in the cross-fire, right?

What use would having a gun been in the Las Vegas mass shooting?

Finally, speaking of practical results rather than ideology:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9715182/

 

[CLOUD 500]

Here are the CDC stats for accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides.

FastStats

FastStats is an official application from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and puts access to topic-specific statistics at your fingertips.

www.cdc.gov

As you can see falls and motor vehicle accidents make up a big proportion of accidental death, as for suicide if no gun is available they will do it some other way. Lately I heard of a bunch of cases of people jumping off a building, in Montreal someone jumping in front of a subway is common (still they refuse to install suicide barriers). You propose the government to be your Grandma, parents restrict their kids from their freedom in the name of protection that is not governments role to play. Fact is it is a human right to be able to defend yourself, those are the practical results. All those accidental shootings is due to human carelessness (blame the owner not the weapon) just as many car accidents are caused by driver carelessness (do not blame the car blame the owner). As for criminals, if not guns they will use knives or something else. Mass shootings are not common they represent a very small proportion of all gun violence. Even if half the people at that music festival were fully armed someone could have took out that Las Vegas mass shooter, so many lives could have been saved (I bet you if the shooter knew most people at the festival would be fully armed he probably would not have opened fire like that. Criminals go after the weak not the strong this is the rule in nature also). Liberals prefer their citizens unarmed and controlled.

 

[Fradi]

The US is totally out of control with gun ownership it has created a situation where it will be impossible to rain in the millions of guns out there.
I do not believe in guns there is no reason any citizen should be able to own an assault rifle or magazines that allow to shoot hundreds of bullets in seconds. These are not meant for self defence or hunting or anything else except military type killing.

As much as I am against all guns with the situation in the US I can understand someone wanting to carry a handgun for self defence with all the crazies out there armed, it is something to think about because as much as I would like all guns to disappear that is just wishful thinking and no laws will make that happen even if implemented for decades to come. With the mindset and ingrained love of firearms by Americans these mass shootings will continue and politicians will be sending prayers and condolences. There is no light at the end of the tunnel, the new law implemented recently by Bidet is like pissing in the wind and totally useless.

 

[CLOUD 500]

^^^^^
First smart answer. You see this from a neutral perspective and I agree with what you wrote. One thing to note is if you look at the UK, in 1997 they implemented the Firearms Act which made gun ownership far more restrictive then even Canada essentially all guns were banned. However when you analyze the stats on gun violence it did not change much after the Firearms Act. In the graph there was a spike but that is to be expected because what made a difference was due to a surge in police officers starting in 2002 and ended in 2010. Of course Pro-Liberal voters want to defund the police. Critical thinking is very hard for Liberal voters.

 

[EagerBeaver]

As much as I am against all guns with the situation in the US I can understand someone wanting to carry a handgun for self defence with all the crazies out there armed, it is something to think about because as much as I would like all guns to disappear that is just wishful thinking and no laws will make that happen even if implemented for decades to come.

Bingo! That is why all you can do is arm yourself and defend yourself, and do it well, like this guy, so that you strike fear in the minds of the would be mass shooter:

 

[sene5hos]

 

[sene5hos]

11 Florida School Districts Back Arming Teachers, But Education Department Remains Secretive | FlaglerLive

Senators asked, but a Florida Department of Education official did not provide information about the exact number of teachers who have chosen to be trained and armed in schools.

flaglerlive.com

Damien Kelly, director of the state Office of Safe Schools, told the Senate Education Committee on Monday that of the 36 school districts participating in a controversial school “guardian” program, 11 have indicated an interest in arming classroom teachers.

However, Kelly was unable to provide information about the exact number of teachers who have chosen to be trained and armed in schools.
Three senators wanted to know, but he didn’t have an answer.

 

[sene5hos]

 

[sene5hos]

House passes assault weapons ban that’s doomed in the Senate

While the legislation is highly unlikely to pass the Senate, House Democrats say the bill is a needed response to recent mass shootings.

www.cnbc.com

The House passed legislation Friday that would ban assault weapons for the first time since 2004, in a sign that Democrats intend to pursue more aggressive gun violence prevention measures after a spate of mass shootings.

The bill passed in a largely party-line vote of 217-213, with two Republicans voting for the measure and five Democrats opposing it.

The level of GOP opposition indicates the bill is unlikely to advance in the evenly split Senate, where it would require the support of at least 10 Republicans to defeat a guaranteed filibuster.
It’s also not clear if the measure has the support of all 50 Senate Democrats.

The legislation, authored by Rep. David Cicilline, D-R.I., would criminalize the knowing sale, manufacture, transfer, possession or importation of many types of semi-automatic weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices.

During floor debate before Friday’s vote, House Democrats argued an assault weapons ban was needed because of the number of recent shootings where gunmen have used assault-style weapons.

 

[sene5hos]

President Joe Biden hailed the House vote, saying, "The majority of the American people agree with this common sense action." He urged the Senate to "move quickly to get this bill to my desk."

Almost all Republicans voted against the House bill, which passed 217-213.

In short, the Republicans are against and the Democrats are for the law.

 

[gaby]

,,seems ''common sense'' has not the same meaning for everyone....lolllll .

 

[Fradi]

In short, the Republicans are against and the Democrats are for the law.

No it doesn’t mean that at all.
It means that the US is so divided that any law regardless if it makes sense or not ( I agree with banning all assault rifles and magazines capable of loading hundreds of bullets per minute.) will not be supported by the other side.
The Democrats are no different they did the exact same thing when the Republicans where in power, Bidet and Pelosi and company are just as corrupt and they are all out for power and money with little regard for those that they are supposed to be working for.
So much for politicians, the scum of the earth.

 

[sene5hos]

Right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones hit with part one of sentencing.
The jury making him pay $4.1 million in compensatory damages to Sandy Hook parents.
The punitive fines, meaning the punishment for lying about the Sandy Hook massacre, coming next.
The judge rebuking Jones for lies and rejecting his ask for a mistrial after a bombshell revelation – his lawyer accidentally leaked his cell phone data. MSNBC’s Chief Legal correspondent Ari Melber reports on this trial and what the punishment part of this sentencing could mean.

Only $4.1 million

Nice to see someone held accountable for the harm their lies cause people finally. Lying isn't "freedom of speech".