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....mais ce minable personnage a déclaré faillite sentant venir la tempête...et la JUSTICE......quel infâme moron...a sûrement dû garder des réserves quelque part...la justice doit continuer à sévir contre cet ignoble truand.
 

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ALEX JONES.....second verdict....45,2 M......in punitive damages.....and more to come....BUT where will they find that money.????....ce moron aurait tout liquidé....mais au moins aura été démasqué et jugé.
 

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An armed man with an AR-15 decked out in body armor tried to breach a security screening area at an FBI field office Thursday, then fled and was injured in an exchange of gunfire in an hourslong standoff with law enforcement that persisted into late afternoon, authorities said.

The confrontation that began at the FBI's Cincinnati office came as officials warned of an increase in threats against federal agents in the days following a search of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

There have been growing threats in recent days against FBI agents and offices across the country since federal agents executed a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago.
On Gab, a social media site popular with white supremacists and antisemites, users have warned they are preparing for an armed revolution.
 

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Another mass shooting. A Virginia Walmart manager opened fire in the break room killing six people.

 

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Another mass shooting. A Virginia Walmart manager opened fire in the break room killing six people.

More senseless gun violence - over 600 mass shootings in US so far this year. Republicans continue to oppose common sense gun safety laws. It's disgraceful.
 

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More senseless gun violence - over 600 mass shootings in US so far this year. Republicans continue to oppose common sense gun safety laws. It's disgraceful.
There is no such thing as a common sense gun law, every individual should have the right to defend themselves thus the right to bear arms, it is a human right. Republicans or Democrats, both are playing their same clown games. See Trudeau's gun ban will do nothing to stop gun violence because the law attacks law abiding citizens. Criminals will obtain their guns illegally as usual. This is nothing but virtue signalling. My stance is not about protection, it is more about the freedom and the voluntary choice of the individual to have that right to defend themselves and not be at the mercy of police. It is to have a voluntary choice and not be coerced to a specific level of security.

Like Patron said many times, he talks often about media sensationalism. He is right as it sells. In the US so far, there has been 20,070 fatalities in the US in the first half of 2022.


Is leftist media talking about this or politically hijacking it? Are they banning all cars? Guns is a tool and like any tool the user is responsible for it. These crimes are happening by some very disturbed people. There is something else at play here and it is not about guns. These are the facts. Blaming guns is the same as blaming cars for car accidents. I do not have a singular answer as to how to curb mass shootings, all I can say is banning guns is not the solution.
 
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There is no such thing as a common sense gun law, every individual should have the right to defend themselves thus the right to bear arms, it is a human right. Republicans or Democrats, both are playing their same clown games. See Trudeau's gun ban will do nothing to stop gun violence because the law attacks law abiding citizens. Criminals will obtain their guns illegally as usual. This is nothing but virtue signalling. My stance is not about protection, it is more about the freedom and the voluntary choice of the individual to have that right to defend themselves and not be at the mercy of police. It is to have a voluntary choice and not be coerced to a specific level of security.

Like Patron said many times, he talks often about media sensationalism. He is right as it sells. In the US so far, there has been 20,070 fatalities in the US in the first half of 2022.


Is leftist media talking about this or politically hijacking it? Are they banning all cars? Guns is a tool and like any tool the user is responsible for it. These crimes are happening by some very disturbed people. There is something else at play here and it is not about guns. These are the facts. Blaming guns is the same as blaming cars for car accidents. I do not have a singular answer as to how to curb mass shootings, all I can say is banning guns is not the solution.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are human rights not gun ownership. If guns are banned only criminals will have guns is an old, tired fear tactic. Most citizens in the US want universal background checks and closing the gun show loophole. Further, the majority want a ban on high capacity magazines and a ban on assault style weapons. These are examples of common sense gun safety ideas. In the US we have more guns than people, and we have more mass shootings and gun deaths than anywhere else in the world. Of course it's all about guns. If you want to live in a civilized society, the good of the whole and public safety is greater than any individual's right to bear arms without any restrictions or restraints.
 
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^^^^^ I strongly disagree with any kind of collectivism and civilized society is another way to say you want big government. Freedom over security always.

The only sure way to stop all mass shootings is to strip away all freedom, but even in totalitarian governments gun violence still happens. It happened in China. The fact you are willing to surrender your rights to have security, you loose me there.
 
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^^^^^ I strongly disagree with any kind of collectivism and civilized society is another way to say you want big government. Freedom over security always.

The only sure way to stop all mass shootings is to strip away all freedom, but even in totalitarian governments gun violence still happens. It happened in China. The fact you are willing to surrender your rights to have security, you loose me there.
Wow. Even for an anti-government, anti-democracy, ultra-libertarian, that's an outrageous position.
 

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Wow. Even for an anti-government, anti-democracy, ultra-libertarian, that's an outrageous position.
What I find outrageous is anyone willing to surrender their rights to the government thinking they got peoples best interest at heart because they do not. Like it or not the 2nd amendment is there and I doubt it is going anywhere. Do keep on drinking the kool-aid though. I never understood why Liberal voters worship the government.
 
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What I find outrageous is anyone willing to surrender their rights to the government thinking they got peoples best interest at heart because they do not. Like it or not the 2nd amendment is there and I doubt it is going anywhere. Do keep on drinking the kool-aid though. I never understood why Liberal voters worship the government.

Fortunately for society your thinking is in the minority and your position is that of an outlier.
 

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Fortunately for society your thinking is in the minority and your position is that of an outlier.
The thing is ppl still believe there is a difference between left and right. At the end both are the same. Btw I originally posted the article without making any political statements, you then decided to post your opinion and I then made mine. We will leave it at that.
 
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^^^^^ I strongly disagree with any kind of collectivism and civilized society is another way to say you want big government. Freedom over security always.

The only sure way to stop all mass shootings is to strip away all freedom, but even in totalitarian governments gun violence still happens. It happened in China. The fact you are willing to surrender your rights to have security, you loose me there.
I am all for freedom and dislike government and politicians on both sides even more.
Having said that what kind of security does owning a gun provide for anyone.
Is it going to stop someone from shooting you with his gun and what exactly are those semi automatic and other rifles that can shoot hundreds of bullets in 30 seconds meant for other than killing people.
Sorry not the kind of world I prefer and as far as I am concerned there is no reason for civilians to be walking around armed.

The United States has almost 50% of the worlds guns in private citizens hands, so based on that it should be the safest place to walk around anywhere right, because all those people can defend themselves lol.
Tell that to all the parents wives husbands and mothers who have lost loved ones due to gun violence. Even Montreal is starting to see more gun violence now days.

Yes guns don’t kill people do, I will go along with that argument, but guns sure as fuck make the killing a lot easier and a hell of a lot deadlier when you can fire hundreds of bullets at innocent people in a matter of 30 seconds.
 

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I am all for freedom and dislike government and politicians on both sides even more.
Having said that what kind of security does owning a gun provide for anyone.
Is it going to stop someone from shooting you with his gun and what exactly are those semi automatic and other rifles that can shoot hundreds of bullets in 30 seconds meant for other than killing people.
Sorry not the kind of world I prefer and as far as I am concerned there is no reason for civilians to be walking around armed.

The United States has almost 50% of the worlds guns in private citizens hands, so based on that it should be the safest place to walk around anywhere right, because all those people can defend themselves lol.
Tell that to all the parents wives husbands and mothers who have lost loved ones due to gun violence. Even Montreal is starting to see more gun violence now days.

Yes guns don’t kill people do, I will go along with that argument, but guns sure as fuck make the killing a lot easier and a hell of a lot deadlier when you can fire hundreds of bullets at innocent people in a matter of 30 seconds.
You make good points and I agree with it. But in spite that, my point was about the individual should have the right and choice to choose and one of that is the right to defend yourself. It is NOT about having security or protection, it is about having the choice, my theory is based on everything should be volunteered. For sure it will not do anything to reduce gun violence, but that was not my argument. I do not agree with coercion to have specific security/protective measures as in the covid pandemic. One can be against something but still be against mandates. So to sum it up, having the right to bear arms is not so much about protection or safety, it is about having the right and free choice to defend yourself if need be. Either way what any of us thinks is irrelevant, the 2nd amendment is there and it is not going anywhere.
 
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. Either way what any of us thinks is irrelevant, the 2nd amendment is there and it is not going anywhere.
Unfortunately this is true and is ingrained in the population of the US.
No other nation has the amount of guns in private citizens hands and will have to live with gun violence and being scared to go shopping to a mall or to an airport not to mention that even their children are not safe in schools.
This type of freedom of choice I can do without and it will take generations of different minded citizens to change this, if ever.

So basically the US can continue with the usual rhetoric from their politicians of hopes and prayers every time there is a mass shooting
This situation however is not purely the fault of the politicians for once but an ingrained love of firearms by the population at large who despite all the deaths are not willing to change.
 
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