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When an sp says she is an open spirit, what does it mean ?

Dreamer69

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:confused: Yesterday with my ATF sp we did not seem to agree what an sp who is an open spirit really means.

Her definition and mine were completely different.:help:

I thought it meant they were open for anything, am I wrong?
 

Killbill007

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Open mind will not necessarily mean she's opend mind about sex and her service
 

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My opinion: Open mind means someone is willing to consider, discuss and debate anything. That does not mean they will automatically do anything you propose. Someone with an open mind *could* be convinced to try something, as opposed to a fanatic that will never agree to consider anything that goes against their set beliefs.

A more general explanation: it means whatever they mean when they say it, so you have to talk with the person to know what they mean.
 

Dreamer69

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Not open mind, open spirit, or ouverte d esprit ; maybe we can convince her to do whatever we want probably by increasing the $$. ??
 

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she'll say whatever it takes to cut through all the other ads you are scanning - hundreds- and get you to break open your piggy bank on her
 

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I think it means that she she is really into you and maybe even in love with you but despite that she still has to charge you for sex.
 

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ouverte d'esprit to me translates roughly as 'free spirit'. Free spirit is totally different from 'will do anything for the right price.' It means she is kinda bohemian.

No? I could be totally wrong!!!
 

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ouverte d'esprit to me translates roughly as 'free spirit'. Free spirit is totally different from 'will do anything for the right price.' It means she is kinda bohemian.

No? I could be totally wrong!!!

When you say kinda bohemian are you referring to Freddie Mercury ?
 

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I deleted my earlier comment. But my take on it is that it means nothing. Just 2 words some SPs like to throw around.
 

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Its fair to say, that any women who gets naked and has sex with someone she just met 2 minutes ago, is by definition one of these "open spirts".
 

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Its fair to say, that any women who gets naked and has sex with someone she just met 2 minutes ago, is by definition one of these "open spirts".

It could just mean that she is "horny", as with girls who get picked up by guys they just met at bars. A truly open spirit is one who purchased tickets for both Steel Panther and St. Vincent at the Metropolis, practices both yoga and karate, and voted for both Obama and one of the Bushes (if American), or both Harper and the PQ (if Canadian), during their lives.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
I will go with post 7 & 8.
 

hobbyvil

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I think its just a way of saying that they don't follow general social rules...its a poetic way of justifying their job i guess?
 

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For me it is very simple.

When I browse Ad sites and read ads that says "OUVERTE D'ESRPIT", this means GFE is NOT offered and I skip the ad.

Sometime, when it is very appealing ad, I still send an SMS to ask if GFE is offered. 95% of the time, they replie NO GFE offered.
And most of the time, NO DFK and NO DATY and NO BBBJ are offered. We just talk of CBJ + CFS and that is it. Mostly mechanical stuff...

If the reply is "YES GFE is offered", then this is probably a booker replying ;)
Then sometime, I book and go check at the incall place and ask directly to the girl and all the time, she is not GFE at all. Well sometime she is almost GFE since only one GFE feature is missing.

So in short:
- Ads with Open Minded (Ouverte d'esprit) == NO GFE
- Ads with GFE mentionned == You MAY have GFE but better confirm with SMS by specifying the standard GFE feature DFK, BBBJ, DATY. Then if you book, make sure you ask the SP up front.
- This morning there was an AD specifying "GFE according to my criteria" == NO GFE according to the Standard. Ad Skipped...
 
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I would say that someone who thinks herself as a ''free spirit'' is just someone who do not follow conventions which in real life is meaningful but for a sp it is an oxymoron...
so I would see it as a marketing terms,like the indies companion motto who says :the ethical way to meet'',sounds good but does it mean anything? Nobody can be against ethics...
 

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"ouverte d'esprit"true meaning

For me it is very simple.

When I browse Ad sites and read ads that says "OUVERTE D'ESRPIT", this means GFE is NOT offered and I skip the ad.

Sometime, when it is very appealing ad, I still send an SMS to ask if GFE is offered. 95% of the time, they replie NO GFE offered.
And most of the time, NO DFK and NO DATY and NO BBBJ are offered. We just talk of CBJ + CFS and that is it. Mostly mechanical stuff...

If the reply is "YES GFE is offered", then this is probably a booker replying ;)
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Excellent analysis from UncleBob
What is very sad TO hear is those people or distorting the true meaning of "ouverte D'esprit" witch term I use frequently as a Booker to describe a young lady that offering a true GFE experience including LFK/DFK,DATY,DATO,MPOS,MSOG AND BBBJ . The client was aware that he needed to be ready to rumble !!LOL
Now as Unclebob express we need to be on the watch !Sad,Sad,Sad
So in short:
- Ads with Open Minded (Ouverte d'esprit) == NO GFE
- Ads with GFE mentionned == You MAY have GFE but better confirm with SMS by specifying the standard GFE feature DFK, BBBJ, DATY. Then if you book, make sure you ask the SP up front.
- This morning there was an AD specifying "GFE according to my criteria" == NO GFE according to the Standard. Ad Skipped...
Very good advice and a other tricky one is
Safe/GFE or GFE/safe
What is safe GFE? it varies from SP to SP but the major part is no BBBJ and no DFK/LFK
And they are promising loads of fun ????Hummmm
Thanks UncleBob for your analysis of current disloyal and misleading marketing strategies
Its a beware sign
Regards all
BookerL
 
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