Coronavirus

[sene5hos]

US President Donald Trump signed a decree on Tuesday ordering meat producers to continue operating amid fears of shortages due to the coronavirus, the White House said.

The union representing workers in the agro-food sector, the UFCW, asked Tuesday that the presidential decree be accompanied by measures to increase Covid-19 tests and measures of social distancing in factories.
"The reality is that these workers are putting their lives on the line every day to feed our country during this deadly epidemic," said its president Marc Perrone.

According to the latter, at least 20 employees in the sector died from the coronavirus and more than 5,000 others were hospitalized or presented symptoms.

Probably there were flaws in their feeding system before COVID-19, but with the coronavirus, all of this exacerbated the crisis.

Trump is looking to all sides to improve his image before the election.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I apologize TNB, and especially to Doc. I'm sure the lockdown in Canada will be over in a few months, and Doc was just joking about the lockdown of the border until the end of 2020 and into the indefinite future - especially since you have inside knowledge that a vaccine will be available in a few months.

No apologies needed but i wasn't joking when i said that the US-Canadian border should remain closed for the rest of the year. The american government has totally fucked up handling the coronavirus pandemic & with the tremendous lack of leadership at the federal level things will only get worse over time & there is no end in sight. It'd be too risky for Canadians to re-open its border to Americans.

As for the possible vaccine there is no sure-thing that the scientists will ever come up with one and i firmly believe that if they do succeed in coming up with one it very likely won't happen this year. Maybe by the summer of 2021, who knows. Hopefully sooner but i'm not very optimistic.

 

[hungry101]

Our deaths per million are much lower than Spain and Italy. We are at 100 deaths per million and Spain and Italy are at 500 and 700 deaths per million. We would be doing great if it weren't for New York and NYC but that Governor dropped the ball. Thank God Donald Trump cut off flights from China and then from Europe.

BTW - Why did China allow international flights but stopped all domestic flights during the breakout?

 

[OnJustALark]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mBNVmocFeo

 

[jalimon]

They just published that Remdesivir can provide great results for seriously hill cases. Strange the Chinese had published a study that it no effect at all...

Again who to believe? I have for a personal belief to never trust anything coming out of China so I will go with the American study. Hoping it's not just a political/pharma stunt...

 

[cloudsurf]

Our deaths per million are much lower than Spain and Italy. We are at 100 deaths per million and Spain and Italy are at 500 and 700 deaths per million.

That`s nothing to be proud of. Actually US deaths are 200 per million and moving up at an alarming rate. 4 countries in Europe are presently in worse shape.
Canada and most of the world including China have fewer deaths per million than the US. The only state that should be congratulated is California.

 

[hungry101]

Do you believe China's data for a second?

 

[IamNY]

We would be doing great if it weren't for New York and NYC but that Governor dropped the ball. Thank God Donald Trump cut off flights from China and then from Europe.

BTW - Why did China allow international flights but stopped all domestic flights during the breakout?

100% correct. NY didn't need the extra hospital beds, Red Cross boat with more beds, converting all of those beds to covid friendly, hoarding all the ventilators that were never needed, etc. But, I'm glad that Cuomo initiated all of those things because he was looking out for his state and at the same time covering his ass. He should of planned for all of this years ago, but he ignored to.

Curious how people feel about how Australia and New Zealand handled the pandemic by truly shutting down their borders by not letting anybody in. Their numbers clearly show that it worked. 2 months ago something like this would have been an impossible thing to suggest in the states, but now I would have no problem going forward by completely shutting the USA's borders and doing what Australia and New Zealand has done. The problem with the current pandemic is that the coronavirus has probably been around in NY long before people started shutting things down. I wouldn't be surprised if data comes out showing the virus being here as early as November.

 

[IamNY]

China have fewer deaths per million than the US.

Doubtful. Comparing anything covid19 related to China is a waste of time. They will never contribute accurate information let alone inform the world that they fucked up and exposed all of us to this bullshit.

 

[Man911]

So, you think here in Canada or USA, you have the right informations? And all it true when it come from new paper?

 

[cloudsurf]

When you mention New Zealand and Australia doing a great job you are part right New Zealand yes and Australia not so much. Viet Nam has done a great job but they are run by a communist government so you can`t believe their data just like you can`t believe China`s data. You can`t believe any government`s data if they are run by a commie or fascist government. Hard to find any honest mouth pieces even Fauci. Remember when he was telling everyone that face masks provide ineffective protection to users ? There was a reason for that lie.....so that the scarce masks would be available to health care workers first. Ya maybe it was a good lie....but still a lie that put thousands into the hospital.

 

[IamNY]

Hard to find any honest mouth pieces even Fauci. Remember when he was telling everyone that face masks provide ineffective protection to users ? There was a reason for that lie.....so that the scarce masks would be available to health care workers first. Ya maybe it was a good lie....but still a lie that put thousands into the hospital.

I completely agree with you right there. Amazing how that when the healthcare workers had enough masks it was right around when it was recommended to start wearing masks again.

 

[IamNY]

So, you think here in Canada or USA, you have the right informations? And all it true when it come from new paper?

I do not. I never did, but there is no doubt that China withheld information thus causing this whole mess. It's not what they reported more so than what they covered up.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Today's been encouraging as well as yesterday.

Stuff is starting to re-open finally. I must admit i have a hard time following their logic tough when it comes to what we getting vs what we don't. For instance i don't get why we can see friends at least outside, but kids will be back in school. I get that kids are not much at risk of symtoms but they can spread it just as much as adult from what i understand, so they may spread it to parents if they get it in school.

Oh well at least some regions will open back and i may be able to go video game shopping for my birthday at the end of May, even if ill not be able to do what i use to do on these days (cinema, restaurant etc)

 

[IamNY]

Some good news about Remdesivir it can significantly shorten the recovery time of covid19:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ecovery-time&usg=AOvVaw1P25uJc-6lr2KRBS4v7CEb

 

[jalimon]

Greatwalloo I wrote on that below. Be careful. Studies has not been peer reviewed yet. China published reports that it had no effect. But then again who can trust these fuckers.

So right now either it's a political based move or a cash based move by a pharma, or both. Or either it's really working which has yet to be truly vouched.

 

[IamNY]

Interesting. I noticed that both cnn and fox were reporting the same good news about the drug. When the two news corps agree on something I tend to believe it to be true. Let’s hope cross our fingers.

 

[IamNY]

With the lockdown and safe distancing in NY especially in NYC, this really happened:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/ort...s-absolutely-unacceptable-nyc-mayor-says.html

 

[Doc Holliday]

Comparing anything covid19 related to China is a waste of time. They will never contribute accurate information let alone inform the world that they fucked up and exposed all of us to this bullshit.

You make China sound like the Trump administration. uke:

 

[Doc Holliday]

When you mention New Zealand and Australia doing a great job you are part right New Zealand yes and Australia not so much....You can`t believe any government`s data if they are run by a commie or fascist government. Hard to find any honest mouth pieces even Fauci.

I absolutely agree with your statement in regards to NZ & Australia. I also agree in regards to trust issues for communist & fascist governments such as the ones in China & the United States. You can't trust a word they say. Same thing with some red states in the US such as Florida where we're not learning that DeSantis has been trying to gag medical examiners from divulging who died from COVID-19 in order to keep the numbers down & thus not preventing him from opening up state when the real numbers would show that this is absolutely the wrong thing to do at this time.

Dont's: do not trust China; do not trust the Trump administration; do not trust Donald Trump; do not trust many red state governors; do not trust Fox News & any other right wing media outfit or talking piece; and finally....do not trust any Republican. They'll fool you once & will try to fool you twice. But shame on your if they fool you three times or more. But they'll keep on trying until they succeed. So beware.