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jalimon

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it's not a bad flu. it's far worse

stop trolling

Cannot agree more. We are starting to know a bit more about this virus.

On the positive side:
- many many more could have been already infected without any symptoms
- so death rate could be quite low, no much more then flu

On the negative side:
- we do no know if immunity exists
- we still currently have no treatment, vaccines or massive rapid testing capabilities
- case of stroke due to blood clot have doubled (leading to many avc or other related blood clot problem). Which may explain why only 11% of patient survive the ventilator. Blood clot can lead to many other problems.
- the NHS in the UK discovered that covind-19 is probably responsible for a very rare disease for kids
- Impaired lung from covid-19 can very well lead to many other effects on your brain, kidney and your heart. Not to mentions of course.. your lungs.

For the next few months I will let the yahoo's get back to regular partying life and myself remain quiet.

Cheers,
 

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June? Are you fucking kidding me??? There's not a chance in hell that the border opens up in 2020 and if our government succumbs to the pressure and re-opens it too soon than I'M NOT VOTING LIBERAL AGAIN FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!!!


Hey Naughty by Nature - You so funny!! I think Doc was the one calling for a a shutdown of Canada, at least from the U.S. for all of 2020.
 

Doc Holliday

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The United States is such a fucking mess right now that i'd personally advocate that Canada keep its border closed to it for at least one more year. And if fucking Trump is re-elected in November then keep the fucking border closed until 2025! There's no fucking way that they'll get out of this mess if they re-elect this motherfucker!

What Canada needs is a big Wall to keep Americans out. Like the Great Wall of China! And they could build that wall with several beautiful doors to let in people once the lockdown is over. Every province would be allowed a maximum amount of doors & they'd be monitored 24/7 to prevent people from illegally coming in. The Wall would have to be at least 100 feet high & be monitored 24/7 with high tech technology. Robots could be used to patrol the wall....robots equiped with infrared technology.

I love Americans. I love America. I usually would welcome their presence in Canada since they're usually great for the economy & the tourism industry. But we can't risk letting in anyone who would potentially infect or re-infect innocent Canadians with COVID-19. They're the ones who elected this madman as their so-called "leader", so they're to blame for this mess!

"Mr. Trump, build that Wall!!!" (and we'll even force America to pay for it)

On other idea would be to build a country-wide canal from the Maritimes to British Columbia in order to make an island out of Canada. A country that is an island could be better protected from an infected neighbouring country. Could this country-wide canal be built within 5 years? Probably not. But i think it'd be a good idea not just for now, but for the future!
 

Doc Holliday

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In other news, my upcoming flight to Montreal scheduled for the end of June was cancelled yesterday by my airline company. Among the reasons stated was that it seems unlikely that the province of Quebec will by then be re-opened to visitors from visiting provinces or other countries. I was thinking of maybe going by car but now it appears i won't even be allowed inside the province. Oh well!!!

Also yesterday i learned that the Quebec government is warning its residents that if they decide to venture into Ontario then they'll have to go into a 2-week quarantine once they return to Quebec. Most of the Quebec residents i spoke to about this are enraged about this if their government makes this official. I'm hearing it is or the announcement is imminent.
 

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In some possible good news......Oxford scientists say that they may have a vaccine ready by September if it works as well on humans as it does on rhesus monkeys.
The New York Times reports that a similar vaccine for another virus was developed a year ago and was proven safe to humans. The new vax was tested on monkeys who then received a strong dose of novel corona virus and did not develop covid19.....while similar tests with a placebo caused infection.
This vax may be available to the masses before year end. I hope it works .
 

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Hey Naughty by Nature - You so funny!! I think Doc was the one calling for a a shutdown of Canada, at least from the U.S. for all of 2020.

yea, but that’s a border closing, not a lock down. Also, some of your rant about vaccine is just poo. Not all, but some. Specifically the bullshit about HIV. Obviously trying to create a mechanism to initiate an immune response to a virus that attacks that very immune response would be a bit tricky and not sure SARS-CoV-2 would follow same rules, lol, my dog Chico even had a good laugh at that one. Now if this coronavirus proves to attack and evade the immune system like HIV 1 and 2 im sure you’ll wanna give me a little slap on the tushy to let me know I was just wrong.

heres a nice little article in lay terms on why it’s hard to find a vaccine for HIV. Very easy read

https://time.com/4583503/why-you-sti...n-hiv-vaccine/

and with respect to all this bullshit about varying efficacy about vaccines like the flu, think someone mentioned 35%, lol. If someone told some of you fuckers who come up to MTL for days and see like 3 girls a day if there was finally a hypothetical vaccine for HIV with a 30% chance of working, I’m pretty sure a ton of you would be getting it.
 

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Trump has again invoked the Defense Production Act to compel meat processing plants to remain open:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/poli...on-act-executive-order-food-supply/index.html

This is all about "don't fuck with our pork supply" after Tyson and Smithfield shut down, threatening very high ham and bacon prices for all of us.

This also comes on the heel of news that 7,500 Iowa piglets had to be aborted. These piglets were all possible meals on our tables:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN2292YS

Hopefully restaurants opening soon will change supply demand equation.
 

cloudsurf

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As the saying goes.....where there is smoke, there is fire.
Rumour has it that Mike Pompano was informed 2 years ago by US diplomats that a lab in Wuhan was experimenting with very dangerous bat viruses under unsafe conditions . If true , did he take any action ?
 

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Rumour has it that Mike Pompano was informed 2 years ago by US diplomats that a lab in Wuhan was experimenting with very dangerous bat viruses under unsafe conditions . If true , did he take any action ?

And what do you propose he should have done with that information apart from going through the usual diplomatic channels, which I presume would have accomplished nothing even if attempted?
 

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Whether the Wuhan China virus came from live wild animals held in disgusting conditions in a "wet market" or it escaped from a nearby lab is hard to know. The Chinese communists say it came from the wet market, which is plausible. Some investigators in the West think it escaped from a lab, which is also plausible.

Either way, the Chinese Communist Party has systematically lied about, covered up and denied responsibility for the origin of the virus. We may never know anything for sure other than the CCP is guilty for the mess that the United States and the rest of the world finds itself ensnared in.

Perhaps, as this Wall Street Journal columnist points out, all that we know is: Never, ever trust the communists.

Communists in Brooks Brothers
They follow Lenin’s idea of ‘truth,’ even if they send their children to Harvard.
By William McGurn
April 27, 2020
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In those halcyon years before the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, pro-democracy demonstrations in Hong Kong were small, quiet affairs that were lucky to attract a dozen or two people. After one such rally on a sleepy Sunday, the leader of the city’s fledgling democracy movement, legislator Martin Lee, offered me a lift back to my office.

The conversation turned to family, and Mr. Lee mentioned his father. A former Kuomintang general who had fought the Japanese in the years before and during World War II, he settled his family in Hong Kong once the Communists had prevailed in China’s civil war in 1949. Mr. Lee mused on his father’s advice.

“He’s always telling me, ‘Martin, you can never, ever trust the Communists.’ ”

Mr. Lee’s father has since passed away. The Hong Kong that once provided refuge for his family is gone too. Today’s Hong Kong has now arrested and criminally charged Martin Lee for participating in a pro-democracy protest. The old general’s words ring loudly in my ears: “Never, ever trust the Communists.”

In consequence a new generation is getting a hard lesson that Communists are real, as are the lies and violence necessary to keep them in power. As Lenin made amply clear, Communists have only contempt for the “bourgeois” idea of objective truth, replacing it with a morality that holds “truth” to be whatever is expedient for the party at that moment.

Communism has always been far more about Lenin than Marx—that is, about getting and holding power, rather than any economic arrangement. And it’s extraordinary how consistent the lies and violence have been across time and geography, given the many different flavors of communism. There’s scarcely a Communist Party in the world that doesn’t have a mass killing or two in its past.

Chinese Communism has particularly benefited from the West’s naiveté. When Maoism first appeared, it was hailed as a more authentic and humane form of communism than its brutal Soviet rival. Then came the persecutions and purges and the Cultural Revolution, which left millions of innocent Chinese dead in its wake.

In 1989, when Chinese citizens raised a Goddess of Democracy on Tiananmen Square, some pinned their hopes on the People’s Liberation Army: Surely the people’s army would never fire on the people. In fact, PLA soldiers proved quite adept at firing on the people. And to this day Beijing refuses to come clean about how many it killed at Tiananmen.

Over China’s Communist history the Western left has been egregious at excusing Beijing’s behavior, sometimes apologizing for Chinese communism at its bloodiest moments. In fairness, however, the anti-Communist right has not been without its own illusions.

China’s opening to foreign trade and investment—which many of us supported—proved tremendously successful at lifting ordinary Chinese out of desperate poverty. As genuine an achievement as this has been, the mistake was assuming that just because communists traded in Mao jackets for Brooks Brothers and sent their children to Harvard Business School, they would be transformed into Jeffersonian democrats who play by liberal rules. Instead, the Chinese Communist ruling class has learned it can have it all.

Except truth. This is the one thing no Communist can afford. In his famous 1974 essay “Live Not By Lies,” Alexander Solzhenitsyn said the only way for an individual to resist was to refuse to participate in the everyday lies required to get by in any Communist society.

In the West, communism is often treated as a relic of the past, with figures such as Castro, Che and Mao reduced to cartoons on T-shirts. But real Communists are alive and well. So are the lies they tell to keep themselves in power, whether it’s spreading disinformation about the origins of coronavirus, denying the concentration camps that hold at least a million Muslim Uighurs, or releasing videos of PLA military exercises to intimidate the people of Hong Kong into submission.

Most Westerners look at Hong Kong, observe that the big protests from last year have gone away, and believe the way ahead is by letting things continue to cool down. Hong Kong people, after all, aren’t looking to overthrow China’s government; all they want is to be left alone. So Westerners have a hard time fathoming why Beijing is being so heavy-handed, treating an elderly barrister who wouldn’t harm a soul as a criminal.

But this isn’t how a Communist thinks. He sees protests in Hong Kong as a challenge that must be crushed, at all costs. And when he looks at that 81-year-old lawyer, he doesn’t see a gentle old man. He sees an enemy brandishing the most fearsome weapon of all: the truth.

Until we understand this, we will never understand the wisdom behind a Chinese patriot’s prophetic warning to his son: Never, ever trust the Communists.





 

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Maybe the most important post yet. There is so much hate in this thread for Trump and no hate for the commies that caused it all. How was Trump able to sneak into Wuhan and plant this virus?
 

cloudsurf

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I hate communists and have seen first hand how much misery and suffering they can create. Under a communist regime my grandfather was thrown in prison for 7 years because he held an un-authorized garage sale. And yes the Chinese government is responsible for starting this pandemic and then trying to cover it up.
There are others who are responsible for spreading the pandemic by having a slow response and being in denial of the danger.
Trump who worships dictators of all political stripes, and doesn`t let a day go by without at least one big lie, is responsible for thousands of American deaths because he was in denial and didn`t trust the science or his own intelligence agents until too late.
Funny that no one is commenting about the good news coming out of Oxford.
 

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China is to blame for all of those who have sadly died because of this virus not Trump.
 

Doc Holliday

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China is to blame for all of those who have sadly died because of this virus not Trump.

And Trump's mother is also to blame for not aborting Donald Trump when she had the chance. Shame on her! :Cry:

p.s. I used to be anti-abortion before the calamity of Donald Trump came around.
 

jalimon

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Completely agree with Couldsurf's post.

Trump's action were as usual for him. Denial, bully, be loud, lie lie lie, look strong and blatantly refuse any blame whatsoever that could not make him shine.

All of this worked with the American people to get elected against his opponent. None of it works against a virus.
 

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The virus may have started in China but Trump's total incompetence is also responsible for many American deaths from it - and maybe even some non-American deaths. Worst and most dangerous president in American history and no one else is even close.
 

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Clearly everyone is entitled to their opinions, and the ill-informed and misguided here (last three examples above in particular) are not bashful in putting theirs on display day after day.

Is Trudeau responsible too then for Canadian's deaths or ... is it each Province's leader's fault? So many here clearly failed civics class in school ... likely can't even name half the state's capitals ... but clearly don't know the hierarchy of government power in the States.

Plot twist, and whats up doc will need his binky and a safe space, but border will be open by July and free trade and yanky bangers will be back up there swapping spit with the Montreal ladies once again ... let hope the exchange rate remains as favorable as it was!
 
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