Coronavirus

[jalimon]

They just published that Remdesivir can provide great results for seriously hill cases. Strange the Chinese had published a study that it no effect at all...

Again who to believe? I have for a personal belief to never trust anything coming out of China so I will go with the American study. Hoping it's not just a political/pharma stunt...

 

[cloudsurf]

Our deaths per million are much lower than Spain and Italy. We are at 100 deaths per million and Spain and Italy are at 500 and 700 deaths per million.

That`s nothing to be proud of. Actually US deaths are 200 per million and moving up at an alarming rate. 4 countries in Europe are presently in worse shape.
Canada and most of the world including China have fewer deaths per million than the US. The only state that should be congratulated is California.

 

[hungry101]

Do you believe China's data for a second?

 

[IamNY]

We would be doing great if it weren't for New York and NYC but that Governor dropped the ball. Thank God Donald Trump cut off flights from China and then from Europe.

BTW - Why did China allow international flights but stopped all domestic flights during the breakout?

100% correct. NY didn't need the extra hospital beds, Red Cross boat with more beds, converting all of those beds to covid friendly, hoarding all the ventilators that were never needed, etc. But, I'm glad that Cuomo initiated all of those things because he was looking out for his state and at the same time covering his ass. He should of planned for all of this years ago, but he ignored to.

Curious how people feel about how Australia and New Zealand handled the pandemic by truly shutting down their borders by not letting anybody in. Their numbers clearly show that it worked. 2 months ago something like this would have been an impossible thing to suggest in the states, but now I would have no problem going forward by completely shutting the USA's borders and doing what Australia and New Zealand has done. The problem with the current pandemic is that the coronavirus has probably been around in NY long before people started shutting things down. I wouldn't be surprised if data comes out showing the virus being here as early as November.

 

[IamNY]

China have fewer deaths per million than the US.

Doubtful. Comparing anything covid19 related to China is a waste of time. They will never contribute accurate information let alone inform the world that they fucked up and exposed all of us to this bullshit.

 

[Man911]

So, you think here in Canada or USA, you have the right informations? And all it true when it come from new paper?

 

[cloudsurf]

When you mention New Zealand and Australia doing a great job you are part right New Zealand yes and Australia not so much. Viet Nam has done a great job but they are run by a communist government so you can`t believe their data just like you can`t believe China`s data. You can`t believe any government`s data if they are run by a commie or fascist government. Hard to find any honest mouth pieces even Fauci. Remember when he was telling everyone that face masks provide ineffective protection to users ? There was a reason for that lie.....so that the scarce masks would be available to health care workers first. Ya maybe it was a good lie....but still a lie that put thousands into the hospital.

 

[IamNY]

Hard to find any honest mouth pieces even Fauci. Remember when he was telling everyone that face masks provide ineffective protection to users ? There was a reason for that lie.....so that the scarce masks would be available to health care workers first. Ya maybe it was a good lie....but still a lie that put thousands into the hospital.

I completely agree with you right there. Amazing how that when the healthcare workers had enough masks it was right around when it was recommended to start wearing masks again.

 

[IamNY]

So, you think here in Canada or USA, you have the right informations? And all it true when it come from new paper?

I do not. I never did, but there is no doubt that China withheld information thus causing this whole mess. It's not what they reported more so than what they covered up.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Today's been encouraging as well as yesterday.

Stuff is starting to re-open finally. I must admit i have a hard time following their logic tough when it comes to what we getting vs what we don't. For instance i don't get why we can see friends at least outside, but kids will be back in school. I get that kids are not much at risk of symtoms but they can spread it just as much as adult from what i understand, so they may spread it to parents if they get it in school.

Oh well at least some regions will open back and i may be able to go video game shopping for my birthday at the end of May, even if ill not be able to do what i use to do on these days (cinema, restaurant etc)

 

[IamNY]

Some good news about Remdesivir it can significantly shorten the recovery time of covid19:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ecovery-time&usg=AOvVaw1P25uJc-6lr2KRBS4v7CEb

 

[jalimon]

Greatwalloo I wrote on that below. Be careful. Studies has not been peer reviewed yet. China published reports that it had no effect. But then again who can trust these fuckers.

So right now either it's a political based move or a cash based move by a pharma, or both. Or either it's really working which has yet to be truly vouched.

 

[IamNY]

Interesting. I noticed that both cnn and fox were reporting the same good news about the drug. When the two news corps agree on something I tend to believe it to be true. Let’s hope cross our fingers.

 

[IamNY]

With the lockdown and safe distancing in NY especially in NYC, this really happened:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/ort...s-absolutely-unacceptable-nyc-mayor-says.html

 

[Doc Holliday]

Comparing anything covid19 related to China is a waste of time. They will never contribute accurate information let alone inform the world that they fucked up and exposed all of us to this bullshit.

You make China sound like the Trump administration. uke:

 

[Doc Holliday]

When you mention New Zealand and Australia doing a great job you are part right New Zealand yes and Australia not so much....You can`t believe any government`s data if they are run by a commie or fascist government. Hard to find any honest mouth pieces even Fauci.

I absolutely agree with your statement in regards to NZ & Australia. I also agree in regards to trust issues for communist & fascist governments such as the ones in China & the United States. You can't trust a word they say. Same thing with some red states in the US such as Florida where we're not learning that DeSantis has been trying to gag medical examiners from divulging who died from COVID-19 in order to keep the numbers down & thus not preventing him from opening up state when the real numbers would show that this is absolutely the wrong thing to do at this time.

Dont's: do not trust China; do not trust the Trump administration; do not trust Donald Trump; do not trust many red state governors; do not trust Fox News & any other right wing media outfit or talking piece; and finally....do not trust any Republican. They'll fool you once & will try to fool you twice. But shame on your if they fool you three times or more. But they'll keep on trying until they succeed. So beware.

 

[cloudsurf]

I have a question to Legault admirers who keep reminding us of what a great job he is doing. I must be blind cause I don`t see it.
Quebec accounts for more than half the cases and more than half the deaths in Canada, with less than a quarter the population. So where is the beef ?
Ontario won`t let Quebecers into their province.

 

[jalimon]

Cloud Quebec had it's school break first week of March. When all shit started to break loose in Europe. All that traveling could easily represent why we are in deeper shit. Ontario and other provinces canceled their school break which were scheduled 1 or 2 week after Quebec and put their population in confinement.

 

[cloudsurf]

Forget March break that he should have cancelled but think of to-day. Daily cases are rising. The death toll is 80 plus a day. The curve of new infections is far from flat but increasing daily at the second highest rate in Canada after Alberta.
5 Montreal Hospitals are at over 100% capacity. New York is doing better.

He wants to re-open schools and risk infecting families. Testing is way too little to allow proper monitoring . They can`t even test health workers and patients in nursing homes unless they are sick.
What the hell is going on ? Are these actions defensible? What`s going on in Quebec is comparable to Georgia....let`s see how that works out.

If that`s considered a good job then tell me Jal what is a bad job.

 

[jalimon]

Forget March break that he should have cancelled

That's the problem. If we had listened more closely to the WHO maybe just maybe it would have been canceled. But no country did until the shit hit the fan. Which happened around March 10-11 or so. As we were coming back from our school break in Quebec and as others in Canada canceled theirs. In the US they went on for another 2 weeks and are now paying high price for that.

Testing in Quebec is currently higher ratio then the US no matter what fucking idiot Kushner or Trump says. But yes we could do better. And we have to because Quebec has the highest ratio of elderly people, which does not help.