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In BC now stricter laws, no home visitors unless the one person is a caregiver or relative etc. Pubs can be open though, was in one last night, packed watching the game with no masks in sight. Weird law.
I think it is fair to compare Quebec to the US or to any state of similar population.
In the end no matter how you role the dice you come up with the fact that Quebec has fucked up royally and people here making Trump out to be the devil incarnate when it comes to the virus and not saying shit about their own backyard is pretty hypocritical to put it mildly.
Now do I put all the blame on Legault and his government, no I think he is saying the right things and probably if he imposed stricter rules it wouldn’t be as bad but then there would be an outcry against his measures far worse than there already is.
I am not so quick to put all the blame on Legault or Trump, by now it has been almost 8 months of this, everybody has a mind of their own, do you really need a politician to tell or force you to wear a mask, social distance and to keep all contact to the very minimum and stay the fuck home.
Do we need the army to force a total lock down, it certainly seems so because otherwise we as a free people are not willing to do it on our own, personally I would be totally against this I don’t believe any reason is valid enough to allow this.
To me that would be worse than the virus.
I do however blame China for allowing this to be spread beyond its borders and not informing the rest of the world in time as to how serious this virus was.
In the end no matter how you role the dice you come up with the fact that Quebec has fucked up royally and people here making Trump out to be the devil incarnate when it comes to the virus and not saying shit about their own backyard is pretty hypocritical to put it mildly.
Now do I put all the blame on Legault and his government, no I think he is saying the right things and probably if he imposed stricter rules it wouldn’t be as bad but then there would be an outcry against his measures far worse than there already is.
I am not so quick to put all the blame on Legault or Trump, by now it has been almost 8 months of this, everybody has a mind of their own, do you really need a politician to tell or force you to wear a mask, social distance and to keep all contact to the very minimum and stay the fuck home.
Do we need the army to force a total lock down, it certainly seems so because otherwise we as a free people are not willing to do it on our own, personally I would be totally against this I don’t believe any reason is valid enough to allow this.
To me that would be worse than the virus.
I do however blame China for allowing this to be spread beyond its borders and not informing the rest of the world in time as to how serious this virus was.
That is a 1.5% positivity rate, which is not bad. CT was at 6.48% as of yesterday:
COVID-19 data resources
A repository for data related to COVID-19 cases, state resources and emergency response efforts
portal.ct.gov
In NYC, the threshold for closing schools is 3%.
And closing schools in NYC because the transmission rate is 3% is fucking insane. The transmission rate within the schools is 0.19%. How can politicians bar 1MM children from schools because the transmission rate within the schools is < 0.2%? Keep in mind that COVID is 100% survivable for the students and ~99.8% survivable for the entire population.That is a 1.5% positivity rate, which is not bad. CT was at 6.48% as of yesterday:
COVID-19 data resources
A repository for data related to COVID-19 cases, state resources and emergency response efforts
In NYC, the threshold for closing schools is 3%.
New York City Schools to Close Again Due to the Coronavirus
For the second time in 8 months, the nation's biggest school district is closing due to the pandemic
time.com
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What's interesting about NY and NYC is that they will shut down the schools at a 3% transmission rate but when the governor addresses the state he mentions the positivity rate but doesn't include the "cluster" or "hotspot" areas so that the percentages are lower. It's a smoke show. The governor of NY needs to get off his book tour and face the facts that the positivity rate in NY is heading up and masks, social distancing, washing hands, shutting down gyms and bars just isn't working. We were fortunate enough to have a low positivity rate during the summer. He needs to get his head out of his ass and figure out how to keep NY from spiking like our neighbors. As far as mayor DiBlasio closing the schools, I'm not sure why it's so important for these government officials to close schools. And I'm seeing my family for Thanksgiving, the governor can suck it.
The 3% positivity rate threshold for NYC school closure does seem low to me, but I do not know what the science is behind that rate and I assume that there is some reason they went with that rate. For the Canadians in the thread who do not know, NYC had been hovering in the high 2s positivity rate for weeks and this pending development had been widely discussed and debated. I did not follow the debate closely, but I heard it being discussed on the radio every morning, with invariable snippets of DiBlasio presser speeches warning that closing would happen if 3% got breached.
It is very likely EB that only the political science supports this move. I believe the school closings are due to a deal with the evil teacher’s union. Some kids get their most nutritious meal of the day at school. Many do not have WiFi access. Some are abused at home etc (lock families in a house for 6 months and see what happens) and meanwhile the economy tanks.
Rick Scott is now positive for Covid:
www.cnn.com
Florida Republican senator says he has Covid-19
Republican Sen. Rick Scott of Florida said in a statement Friday morning he has tested positive with Covid-19, adding to the number of lawmakers in recent days that have tested positive with the virus.
www.cnn.com
There is a reason why they have 3% and it has nothing to do with science. It’s the threshold that was negotiated with the teachers union in NYC. That’s why you have other regions in NY with schools still open even though they have higher than 3%
So it's really all about the teachers and not the students then.
I believe the positivity rate is defined as the percentage of the positive results from the total number tested per current day. You guys are comparing apples and oranges here.
Toronto Lockdown! This is the financial epicenter of Canada:
www.bbc.com
Covid-19: Canada's largest city moves back into lockdown
Cases are rising across the country, and several other regions have had to increase restrictions.
www.bbc.com
So pathetic to address this request to the Spreader in Chief who denied to address the problem and is now responsible for more than 250,000 deaths. Come on, the election is over, the sore loser is Trump.
Legault is a clown. It is always the fault of the bars and gyms. Reality is cases were stable till schools reopened. Kids are super spreaders of viruses and then they bring it home and pass it on to their parents.
Not with Covid. In fact Iceland did a contact tracing study and researchers didn't find a single instance of a child bringing Covid home and infecting their parents. If the children ever caught it, one of the parents brought it home to them. The study concluded that children do not seem to be vectors for the disease. Likewise NYC closed down the schools because the positivity rate reached 3% for the total population. The positivity rate in the schools was <0.2%.
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^college kids
globalnews.ca
www.nytimes.com
How Western University’s largest COVID-19 cluster happened | Globalnews.ca
'Some of this contact is much more close than is necessary,' said Dr. Chris Mackie, 'and exactly the sort of thing that we believe is bound to spread the COVID-19 virus.'
globalnews.ca
After a ‘Covid Semester,’ the University of Michigan Gets Tougher on the Virus (Published 2020)
Like many big state universities, it tried to open with some semblance of normalcy. Outbreaks ensued.
My son just informed my that in Quebec 10 people are allowed for Christmas and New Years is a no.
Here are the key dates to keep in mind:
The prospect of a short period of near normalcy next month will be welcomed eagerly by most Quebecers.
Much of the province has been under partial lockdown since October. Restaurants and bars are closed and most gatherings are prohibited.
Legault confirmed what many had suspected would happen: The current partial lockdown will be extended until Jan. 11. And government programs to help businesses affected, such as gyms and restaurants, will also be extended.
The measures appear to have stopped the exponential rise in new cases, but Quebec still registers upward of 1,000 new infections daily. There are currently 651 COVID-19 patients in the province's hospitals.
Public Health Director Dr. Horacio Arruda made it clear on Thursday the holiday plan depends on cases and hospitalizations remaining stable, and Quebecers continuing to follow public health guidelines.
Here are the key dates to keep in mind:
- Dec.17: Voluntary quarantine period begins. School moves online.
- Dec. 24-27: Indoor gatherings permitted, maximum 10 people, no limit on how many households can attend.
- Dec. 28: Voluntary quarantine period resumes.
- Jan. 3: Voluntary quarantine period ends.
- Jan. 4: Elementary school classes resume in-person. High school students attend class online.
- Jan. 11: High school students return to in-person classes.
The prospect of a short period of near normalcy next month will be welcomed eagerly by most Quebecers.
Much of the province has been under partial lockdown since October. Restaurants and bars are closed and most gatherings are prohibited.
Legault confirmed what many had suspected would happen: The current partial lockdown will be extended until Jan. 11. And government programs to help businesses affected, such as gyms and restaurants, will also be extended.
The measures appear to have stopped the exponential rise in new cases, but Quebec still registers upward of 1,000 new infections daily. There are currently 651 COVID-19 patients in the province's hospitals.
Public Health Director Dr. Horacio Arruda made it clear on Thursday the holiday plan depends on cases and hospitalizations remaining stable, and Quebecers continuing to follow public health guidelines.
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