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That is a 1.5% positivity rate, which is not bad. CT was at 6.48% as of yesterday:


In NYC, the threshold for closing schools is 3%.
And closing schools in NYC because the transmission rate is 3% is fucking insane. The transmission rate within the schools is 0.19%. How can politicians bar 1MM children from schools because the transmission rate within the schools is < 0.2%? Keep in mind that COVID is 100% survivable for the students and ~99.8% survivable for the entire population.
 
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What's interesting about NY and NYC is that they will shut down the schools at a 3% transmission rate but when the governor addresses the state he mentions the positivity rate but doesn't include the "cluster" or "hotspot" areas so that the percentages are lower. It's a smoke show. The governor of NY needs to get off his book tour and face the facts that the positivity rate in NY is heading up and masks, social distancing, washing hands, shutting down gyms and bars just isn't working. We were fortunate enough to have a low positivity rate during the summer. He needs to get his head out of his ass and figure out how to keep NY from spiking like our neighbors. As far as mayor DiBlasio closing the schools, I'm not sure why it's so important for these government officials to close schools. And I'm seeing my family for Thanksgiving, the governor can suck it.
 
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The 3% positivity rate threshold for NYC school closure does seem low to me, but I do not know what the science is behind that rate and I assume that there is some reason they went with that rate. For the Canadians in the thread who do not know, NYC had been hovering in the high 2s positivity rate for weeks and this pending development had been widely discussed and debated. I did not follow the debate closely, but I heard it being discussed on the radio every morning, with invariable snippets of DiBlasio presser speeches warning that closing would happen if 3% got breached.
 

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It is very likely EB that only the political science supports this move. I believe the school closings are due to a deal with the evil teacher’s union. Some kids get their most nutritious meal of the day at school. Many do not have WiFi access. Some are abused at home etc (lock families in a house for 6 months and see what happens) and meanwhile the economy tanks.
 

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The 3% positivity rate threshold for NYC school closure does seem low to me, but I do not know what the science is behind that rate and I assume that there is some reason they went with that rate.
There is a reason why they have 3% and it has nothing to do with science. It’s the threshold that was negotiated with the teachers union in NYC. That’s why you have other regions in NY with schools still open even though they have higher than 3%
 

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There is a reason why they have 3% and it has nothing to do with science. It’s the threshold that was negotiated with the teachers union in NYC. That’s why you have other regions in NY with schools still open even though they have higher than 3%

So it's really all about the teachers and not the students then.
 
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That is a 1.5% positivity rate, which is not bad. CT was at 6.48% as of yesterday:
I believe the positivity rate is defined as the percentage of the positive results from the total number tested per current day. You guys are comparing apples and oranges here.
 

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Mr. PRESIDENT TRUMP please scrap that trade deal with China...exercise your 30-day guarantee option of first refusal on that trade deal!...lol!...put AMERICA FIRST!!!...:usa2:
So pathetic to address this request to the Spreader in Chief who denied to address the problem and is now responsible for more than 250,000 deaths. Come on, the election is over, the sore loser is Trump.
 

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What Legault is waiting for? All the kids are bringing the virus home from school, is he blind or what? Yet, every day there are over thousands new cases! Yeah right! People are not stupid! The numbers speaks for itself.

Legault is a clown. It is always the fault of the bars and gyms. Reality is cases were stable till schools reopened. Kids are super spreaders of viruses and then they bring it home and pass it on to their parents.
 

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Legault is a clown. It is always the fault of the bars and gyms. Reality is cases were stable till schools reopened. Kids are super spreaders of viruses and then they bring it home and pass it on to their parents.
Not with Covid. In fact Iceland did a contact tracing study and researchers didn't find a single instance of a child bringing Covid home and infecting their parents. If the children ever caught it, one of the parents brought it home to them. The study concluded that children do not seem to be vectors for the disease. Likewise NYC closed down the schools because the positivity rate reached 3% for the total population. The positivity rate in the schools was <0.2%.
 
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^^^^^
Then why did the cases spike right after Labor Day and when the bars were forced to close the cases still remain high? I am sure people were still having parties on the low during the summer.
 
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^college kids



 

hungry101

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Sorry Cloud - Let me be more clear. I was referring to the school kids. I believe it is particularly the younger children that do not seem to be a vector for the disease.
 

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Look behind you.
My son just informed my that in Quebec 10 people are allowed for Christmas and New Years is a no.


Here are the key dates to keep in mind:

  • Dec.17: Voluntary quarantine period begins. School moves online.
  • Dec. 24-27: Indoor gatherings permitted, maximum 10 people, no limit on how many households can attend.
  • Dec. 28: Voluntary quarantine period resumes.
  • Jan. 3: Voluntary quarantine period ends.
  • Jan. 4: Elementary school classes resume in-person. High school students attend class online.
  • Jan. 11: High school students return to in-person classes.
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The prospect of a short period of near normalcy next month will be welcomed eagerly by most Quebecers.

Much of the province has been under partial lockdown since October. Restaurants and bars are closed and most gatherings are prohibited.

Legault confirmed what many had suspected would happen: The current partial lockdown will be extended until Jan. 11. And government programs to help businesses affected, such as gyms and restaurants, will also be extended.

The measures appear to have stopped the exponential rise in new cases, but Quebec still registers upward of 1,000 new infections daily. There are currently 651 COVID-19 patients in the province's hospitals.

Public Health Director Dr. Horacio Arruda made it clear on Thursday the holiday plan depends on cases and hospitalizations remaining stable, and Quebecers continuing to follow public health guidelines.
 
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Update:

Yesterday in the United States = 193,000 new cases and almost 2,000 deaths
 

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This is ridiculous. Instead of the most recent preser, Legault should have just spit in the face of all the "essential workers".
 

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