Ask us anything part 3

[LC18]

[Clients] What’s an unrushed service?

I see that a lot on LL ads. I also read that in reviews “she rushed me” and also read a few “she waited too long”

So if we wait, it’s too long and if we take initiatives we’re rushing you?

Enlighten me please

 

[FranckDV8]

I almost always go to an Incall.

Rushed: She throws me out of the bed, starts running to change the sheets by yelling at me with a panicked look in the eyes: "Quick clean yourself, we have to leave in 15 minutes otherwise I'll be in the deep shit". She slammed the door as soon as I left.

Unrushed: Still in the bed she kissed me on the cheek: “Okay, sweetly, time to showered and get back to reality”. She calmly do what she had to do while I showered. She hugged me before leaving.

Not a clock watcher: She DFK one last time and she gets out of bed. My signal that time has flown too fast again. I'm going to the shower. When I go out, she offers me a coffee, we talk while I offer you my coffee. She politely offers me a second one, which I politely refuse because I know that we have greatly exceeded the agreed time. Offer me a bottle of water for the road, and last DFK and I leave. But here, we are talking about my ATF.

But even if it’s rushed or not, I always keep in mind that somebody may have reserved the Incall after us….

 

[LeDodo]

[Clients] What’s an unrushed service?

I see that a lot on LL ads. I also read that in reviews “she rushed me” and also read a few “she waited too long”

So if we wait, it’s too long and if we take initiatives we’re rushing you?

Enlighten me please

Unrushed service might be related to the session duration, say it is 9am for a 60 minutes then she makes sure you're coming at 9:44 so she can push you in the shower at 9:45 lol
But it's mainly I think in the way the SP behave like if it's too obvious things need to happen quickly even though limited in the duration.

For the "she waited too long" I think it's more about when the things start and that the chit chat is dragging.

 

[CuriousGent]

[Clients] What’s an unrushed service?

I see that a lot on LL ads. I also read that in reviews “she rushed me” and also read a few “she waited too long”

So if we wait, it’s too long and if we take initiatives we’re rushing you?

Enlighten me please

Waiting to long would be in my opinion if the inital greeting, banter and introduction drags on before the shower (particularly in 1h meetings), it can be somewhat tricky if the SP like to chat and the client has to interrupt her to ask for the shower, because now the sp might feel rushed and dehumanized.

Rushed is when to the sp goes through the motions to get the client to climax as fast as possible and possibly put an end to the meeting before the time is up

 

[LC18]

Waiting to long would be in my opinion if the inital greeting, banter and introduction drags on before the shower (particularly in 1h meetings),

I hate shorter bookings for that. They make me want to sit on the couch and not talk at all but then people would say that I’m too mechanical and robotic

 

[S.S neo]

[Clients] What’s an unrushed service?

I see that a lot on LL ads. I also read that in reviews “she rushed me” and also read a few “she waited too long”

So if we wait, it’s too long and if we take initiatives we’re rushing you?

Enlighten me please

I also seen this in reviews ... guys took a 15 or 30 min and then complains they felt rushed ... anyway ... i think a « riushed » service is more when the provider clearly wants the client to cum as fast as possible. (Sometimes for good reasons but sometimes only to see more clients ...) whatever the time you took, she wants you out as fast as possible.

 

[CuriousGent]

I hate shorter bookings for that. They make me want to sit on the couch and not talk at all but then people would say that I’m too mechanical and robotic

shorter meetings can have that issue on both sides, figuring out the right pace, less of an issue when you have meet before, i generally like to get started fairly quickly and leave the banter for after the SOG. I personally still get nervous when seeing an sp, but after we have been naked and had sex the conversation just flows... usually do 90 minutes to give enough time to recharge for round 2

 

[LC18]

shorter meetings can have that issue on both sides, figuring out the right pace, less of an issue when you have meet before, i generally like to get started fairly quickly and leave the banter for after the SOG. I personally still get nervous when seeing an sp, but after we have been naked and had sex the conversation just flows... usually do 90 minutes to give enough time to recharge for round 2

At this point of my life I’d only accept 30-90 mins with people I’ve already met at least once. This way it’s just like catching up and we don’t have to get to know each other etc

 

[CuriousGent]

At this point of my life I’d only accept 30-90 mins with people I’ve already met at least once. This way it’s just like catching up and we don’t have to get to know each other etc

good to know!!!

 

[piecurious]

To indies and agencies @ForeverEscorts @Euphoria Girls @Vog Agency @SOCIA MTL :
To what extent do you believe “MERB privilege” exists?
In what problematic ways have you seen clients from this message board attempt to leverage this “MERB privilege” for special treatment?
Can you identify instances where you may have enabled this behavior—for example, by overlooking misconduct out of deference to this perceived privilege? If so, how do you justify it, and do you believe it moves the industry forward or sets it back?

 

[Fradi]

I am not sure “ Merb Priveledge” exists at all.
I certainly don’t mention that I am a Merb member when contacting a lady and I doubt the majority do. I don’t deny it if they ask but I don’t volunteer it or advertise it.

If you go on X and other sights frequented by SP you will soon realize that being a member of an escort review board is not usually a bonus or privilege and in fact quite the opposite. Most SP avoid “hobbyists/slobbyists” if they can afford to and have a negative opinion of them.

 

[philonius]

I am not sure “ Merb Priveledge” exists at all.
I certainly don’t mention that I am a Merb member when contacting a lady and I doubt the majority do. I don’t deny it if they ask but I don’t volunteer it or advertise it.

If you go on X and other sights frequented by SP you will soon realize that being a member of an escort review board is not usually a bonus or privilege and in fact quite the opposite. Most SP avoid “hobbyists/slobbyists” if they can afford to and have a negative opinion of them.

I agree. I wouldn't advertise my presence here with anyone new. I think it's more of a red flag than anything.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

To indies and agencies @ForeverEscorts @Euphoria Girls @Vog Agency @SOCIA MTL :
To what extent do you believe “MERB privilege” exists?
In what problematic ways have you seen clients from this message board attempt to leverage this “MERB privilege” for special treatment?
Can you identify instances where you may have enabled this behavior—for example, by overlooking misconduct out of deference to this perceived privilege? If so, how do you justify it, and do you believe it moves the industry forward or sets it back?

There are clients who use their popularity on the board to ask for BBFs & try to push for services we don't offer, and I've heard some popular members get discounts but that might just be a rumor. There is a group mentality here.. If a member is popular and has written a lot of reviews, unless all reviews are positive, he will be trusted by others a lot more than someone who barely ever posts or just made an account. So if I see a popular member of the board I know the review he writes will be believed, which is a double edged sword because if something goes wrong and if he isn't a nice client in person, he will write a bad review and it will be believed. I've never overlooked anyone's misconduct because I can't afford to do that for my mental health... but that can backfire. Clients don't treat everyone the same way, they may, and some people are better at handling boundary pushers than others.

A lot of SP are really wary of seeing ''hobbyists'' but there are many others who rely on reviews and are told by their employers that they need to please certain clients because they are well regarded online or are long time regulars and want reviews to succeed. In a way I agree to an extent, I think people greatly overestimate the importance of merb member's opinions particularly here in the lounge, but the truth is that reviews do matter at the end of the day, particularly when you are a new provider and a lot of people are worried they will get scammed or will get bad service. So if I see a popular merb user and he writes a negative review for me, and a bunch of people add angry emojis and start flooding my review thread with negative comments, it will really impact my business because clients, even the ones who aren't into this forum, do research us..

 

[ForeverEscorts]

To indies and agencies @ForeverEscorts @Euphoria Girls @Vog Agency @SOCIA MTL :
To what extent do you believe “MERB privilege” exists?
In what problematic ways have you seen clients from this message board attempt to leverage this “MERB privilege” for special treatment?
Can you identify instances where you may have enabled this behavior—for example, by overlooking misconduct out of deference to this perceived privilege? If so, how do you justify it, and do you believe it moves the industry forward or sets it back?

Like anything, this platform has its good and its bad sides. In my opinion, if it’s to remain neutral and true to its purpose, privileges should have no place here. I often receive requests from clients asking if they can get discounts in exchange for good reviews (which I decline). The girls often hear clients calling themselves “valuable members” : whether it’s to reassure them or to convince them to offer better services (like BBFS) which I don’t think should happen. The worst I’ve seen is requests for free “samples” of extras in exchange for the potential of a future review. To me, this clearly sets the industry back. The goal should be genuine, authentic encounters, and all these attempts to gain privileges just make the interaction feel more mechanical and transactional. That’s my two cents.

 

[LeDodo]

Like anything, this platform has its good and its bad sides. In my opinion, if it’s to remain neutral and true to its purpose, privileges should have no place here. I often receive requests from clients asking if they can get discounts in exchange for good reviews (which I decline). The girls often hear clients calling themselves “valuable members” : whether it’s to reassure them or to convince them to offer better services (like BBFS) which I don’t think should happen. The worst I’ve seen is requests for free “samples” of extras in exchange for the potential of a future review. To me, this clearly sets the industry back. The goal should be genuine, authentic encounters, and all these attempts to gain privileges just make the interaction feel more mechanical and transactional. That’s my two cents.

We don't want to see "influencers" thinking they are entitled to lot of things because they are "famous".

Your point is good as to keep a certain neutrality and avoid any slipping.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Being on a platform like this and getting client's approval, positive reviews and votes for the contest of the best SP etc I feel are addictive for a lot of SP, particularly newer ones, and it puts power in the hands of people who don't have the greatest intentions. I think that it's a little different for indies and for people who provide other services.. like I had no reviews when I worked at a certain MP for 6 months and I still had clients, but I'm under the impression that most big time reviewers prefer agencies so maybe the owner of certain agencies are looking for their business.

I had clients who have been on merb for a while and have a lot of comments tell me they don't want to write reviews anymore because of the power dynamics they've noticed or because they don't want a ton of questions in their DM's, and I've had a few men with a big presence here tell me they won't write me a good review even if they had a good time with me ''because I already have enough'' lol. But as an indy, most of my clients just check the reviews quickly or don't look at all, and they most importantly won't do a huge research on every individual person who wrote one.

So honestly I don't really care if someone is popular on here and I am not going to give the person a better treatment.. I try to treat everyone equally. But I can see how some SP who are worried about the state of their finances or their future and reputation might feel pressured to do that and disregard abusive and pushy behavior.. and maybe offer discounts themselves or do things for free or cross their own boundaries

 

[SOCIA MTL]

To indies and agencies @ForeverEscorts @Euphoria Girls @Vog Agency @SOCIA MTL :
To what extent do you believe “MERB privilege” exists?
In what problematic ways have you seen clients from this message board attempt to leverage this “MERB privilege” for special treatment?
Can you identify instances where you may have enabled this behavior—for example, by overlooking misconduct out of deference to this perceived privilege? If so, how do you justify it, and do you believe it moves the industry forward or sets it back?

MERB privilege does not really exist, however we will prefer clients who are verified on MERB, simply to avoid booking clients who are unpleasant. For instance, you can easily tell when a client who frequents LL and those clients do not lead to good experiences most of the time.

no "Hi", just a disgusting "I want greek now"

Having a valid MERB account creates a certain accountability for their actions. Whether other agencies care about this or not, that's none of my business but I care.

If you look in our history of posts, you can find someone who we recently banned who tried to leverage his MERB account for reviews in order to get good service or freebees. This member is just simply broke and treats girls poorly. So its not 100% true that MERB clients are the best.

MERB has existed for a long time now, and the age of clients manipulating girls with their MERB accounts seems to be over, because there was a period where girls actually hated hobbiests because they'd say "I read that you did this, so do this with me" - I think for the vast majority of clients learned this lesson and SPs can confirm this.

We don't discriminate clients based on whether they have accounts or not, but its only normal to try to book the most pleasant clients possible.

I believe MERB goes through cycles, as new members join. Its not necessarily going forward or backwards. There are always new nice clients joining, and new entitled clients who join. Its just a matter of how much they read to adapt to the right etiquette

 

[ForeverEscorts]

Being on a platform like this and getting client's approval, positive reviews and votes for the contest of the best SP etc I feel are addictive for a lot of SP and it puts power in the hands of people who don't have the greatest intentions. I think that it's a little different for indies and for people who provide other services.. like I had no reviews when I worked at a certain MP for 6 months and I still had clients, but I'm under the impression that most big time reviewers prefer agencies so maybe the owner of certain agencies are looking for their business.

I had clients who have been on merb for a while and have a lot of comments tell me they don't want to write reviews anymore because of the power dynamics they've noticed or because they don't want a ton of questions in their DM's, and I've had a few men with a big presence here tell me they won't write me a good review even if they had a good time with me ''because I already have enough'' lol. But as an indy, most of my clients just check the reviews quickly or don't look at all, and they most importantly won't do a huge research on every individual person who wrote one.

So honestly I don't really care if someone is popular on here and I am not going to give the person a better treatment.. I try to treat everyone equally. But I can see how some SP who are worried about the state of their finances or their future and reputation might feel pressured to do that and disregard abusive and pushy behavior.. and maybe offer discounts themselves or do things for free or cross their own boundaries

I totally agree with you on this. Many of our clients don’t want to leave reviews (even "famous" members). Some don’t even want to be on the platform anymore. That’s why I’m always a bit amused when people act shocked that the girls can be fully booked without any reviews. To me, that says a lot. And no, we definitely don’t post fake girls, despite what some might think..

I also want to point out that, whatever our personal opinions, we end up losing incredible talent because some ladies get too much performance anxiety just knowing Merb exists. Even though I love the platform (and as I’ve said before) I wish the overall vibe felt more like a positive community of people who simply enjoy meeting other people. That includes also agencies supporting the other agencies instead of trying to look the best. I personally want everyone to enjoy themselves. But hey, maybe that’s just me living in my own little Lala Land.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I totally agree with you on this. Many of our clients don’t want to leave reviews (even "famous" members). Some don’t even want to be on the platform anymore. That’s why I’m always a bit amused when people act shocked that the girls can be fully booked without any reviews. To me, that says a lot. And no, we definitely don’t post fake girls, despite what some might think..

I also want to point out that, whatever our personal opinions, we end up losing incredible talent because some ladies get too much performance anxiety just knowing Merb exists. Even though I love the platform (and as I’ve said before) I wish the overall vibe felt more like a positive community of people who simply enjoy meeting other people. I personally want everyone to enjoy themselves. But hey, maybe that’s just me living in my own little Lala Land.

I agree with everything you're saying here. And this isn't just from talking with other girls, this is from a lot of clients. A lot of them don't want to write reviews, it's too intimate for them, and they are disturbed by the atmosphere of the platform.. which some of us (both clients and providers) are trying to improve, but without much success lately. I think it's definitely something that needs to be addressed and it's refreshing seeing agency owners take the matter seriously.

however we will prefer clients who are verified on MERB, simply to avoid booking clients who are unpleasant. For instance, you can easily tell when a client who frequents LL and those clients do not lead to good experiences most of the time.

Yes you can definitely tell a lot by looking at someone's comment history. It's not necessarily because they frequent LL, but the way some people write in their reviews or express their personalities here speaks for itself, I'm sure you know what I mean...

As for their Merb account creating accountability, I'm not so sure it's always the case. But it does give you a glimpse into what the person is like.

 

[xooxxo]

The girls often hear clients calling themselves “valuable members”

It's pretty obvious who that is