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+/- means little especially in the playoffs with so many variables... Dion is a good player, maybe not elite but very good, have you never made a mistake in your life? For the minutes he plays (top 10 in the nhl) against the top players from the other teams, he has done a great job this season. Grabo, well, habs fans still pissed about getting little in return for what is now a 5mil a yr player lol... enjoy your summer, you had about a weeks worth of golf already ahead of the Leafs :)

You might wanna worry about your habs, they were exposed for how bad they really are, the season was a mirage for them... too small to compete in postseason, the sens exposed them royally.
 

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Round Two Predictions:

East:
Pitts 5
Ottawa 6
Rangers 7
Boston 5

West
Chicago 5
Detroit 7
San Jose 7
LA 7

Well done anon_vlad, 8/8 and Doc 7/8.

In round two I'll go with:

East:

1) Pittsburgh in 6
2) Boston in 7 (hardest one to pick IMO)

West:

1) Chicago in 6
2) Los Angeles in 5
 

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Hey BOYZ. :smile:

Famous last words: "It's 4-1 and the Leafs are running the Bruins right out of their own building" - Toronto commentator.

Requiem and Recrimination

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/johnston-no-words-for-maple-leafs-collapse/

To lose a game you led by three goals with 11 minutes to play would be crushing if it happened in February; to do it in Game 7 of a playoff series is nothing short of soul-destroying.

No team – not one – had ever blown that big of lead in the third period of a seventh game in NHL playoff history. At least not until now.


http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/Bruins+beat+Leafs+overtime+Game/8379477/story.html

Games like this are a long series of what-ifs. One team was going to spend a long summer replaying this game in their collective minds, seeing it as they lay in the dark, reliving it. That’s what Game 7, in overtime, is. It is regret waiting to happen.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs...e_leafs_season_choked_away_in_game_7_cox.html

BOSTON—Defeat, in the end, came with abrupt finality, with a sense of shock and surprise and even momentary disbelief that what seemed to be the start of something special was over.

What, no more games? That’s it?

Oh my word. They lost it how?

The Maple Leafs, and their legions of fans, had dared to dream that this might become a unique spring, particularly after twice fighting off elimination to force Game 7 in their best-of-seven opening round playoff series against the favoured Boston Bruins on Monday night.

All signs were pointing to this series as a shiny new beginning, not a nightmarish end.


http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/blogs/jonas_siegel/?id=423122

BOSTON – Crumpled in the blue paint of the crease, head down for a few moments, season dramatically over, James Reimer could hardly stomach what had just occurred. In a matter of stunning minutes, he and the Leafs went from sure victory to disastrous defeat, Patrice Bergeron burying the dagger deep in overtime of game 7.

"There's no way to describe it I don't think," said Reimer, visibly shattered from all that had just transpired. "It's just an empty feeling. It's over and there's nothing you can do about it."

The series of events were almost too unbelievable to comprehend, a disintegration that slowly manifest before the hammer dropped thunderously in the final two minutes of regulation and again for good in overtime.

"It's extremely, extremely tough to put into words," a dejected Dion Phaneuf said. "We had a team down and out and we just let them take over the game and climb out of a hole that they never should've came back from.


http://www.boston.com/sports/2013/0...fs-collapse/4pCv399G2VF40oZrKL54jI/story.html

Phaneuf looked like someone who had just been slapped in the face.

“It’s extreme disappointment,’’ he said. “Every guy really just . . . [it was a] seven-game series that was extremely hard-fought. Give Boston credit. They are a team that played an extremely hard series. We came into their building tonight, Game 7, and we played 55 minutes of really good hockey. It’s extremely disappointing any time a year comes to an end. It’s probably the toughest loss I’ve ever had in pro hockey.’’

Phaneuf emphasized that he didn’t think his team’s psyche was demoralized after regulation. Instead of celebrating their advancement to the conference semifinals against the Rangers in their first trip to the postseason since 2004, their 4-1 lead had evaporated into thin air.


http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/05/14/leaf-fans-dismayed-at-ten_n_3270434.html

TORONTO - Dismay mingled with disbelief in Toronto late Monday night as Maple Leaf fans watched their team suffer a stomach-churning Game 7 loss to the Boston Bruins, dashing any dreams of getting closer to the Stanley Cup.

Initial excitement turned to anguish as a raucous crowd watching the game on a giant screen outside Air Canada Centre saw their team let a solid lead slip away during the final minutes of the third period only to be beaten by the Bruins 5-4 in overtime.

Many in the sea of blue and white jerseys packed into Maple Leaf Square in downtown Toronto appeared utterly deflated at the final buzzer in Boston which marked the crushing end of the Leafs' first Game 7 since 2004.

"This is just unacceptable to me," said 18-year-old Jake Roulston. "I've waiting half my life for this game, nine years, for this game, and they blew it, in Game 7. I mean, that hurts."

James Park, who had been cheering on the Leafs until the very end, couldn't believe the game's incredible turnaround.

"This is messed up, we were up 4-1. We lost it all," he said.


NONE of the Bruins last 4 goals were soft...or flukes. They were all GUTS!!!


"NUFF CED", :amen: :thumb:

Merlot

PS - An 18 year old whined over..."waiting half my life for this game, nine years, for this game",... Is he in for a rude awakening if he can't handle this.
 

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No need to worry about the Habs.

They came back from the bottom of the Eastern to 2nd spot in less than a year.
Something many teams have been dreaming to do for a long time.

Any team in mind ? :eyebrows:
 

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+/- means little especially in the playoffs with so many variables... Dion is a good player, maybe not elite but very good, have you never made a mistake in your life? For the minutes he plays (top 10 in the nhl) against the top players from the other teams, he has done a great job this season. Grabo, well, habs fans still pissed about getting little in return for what is now a 5mil a yr player lol... enjoy your summer, you had about a weeks worth of golf already ahead of the Leafs :)

You might wanna worry about your habs, they were exposed for how bad they really are, the season was a mirage for them... too small to compete in postseason, the sens exposed them royally.

Maybe the Leafs should sign another Komisarek ( to whom Habs refused to give so much money ). I think the new guy could hardly do worse than Phaneuf. He was scared of Lujik and Chara and, consequently, directly responsible for 2 of Boston's goals. Regarding goalies, Habs sure need one but it seems they will go with Price for at least one more year. Some people still hope or say the do... In reality, they have no choice: they just signed him for 6 years and $39m. Every team has its problems, including Vancouver. The guy's name is Luongo. It seems that Leafs were interested in him...
P.S.: congrats to the Leafs, those were great games to watch. Even though I live in Montreal and wish Habs success, I had more fun watching Leafs against Bruins during playoffs.
 

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Apprenti,

Price is a great talent, but a 10 cent head it appears. I know about 20 teams tho that would love to have him. A guy like Carey Price would do great in a place like San Jose, Nashville, or Arizona.

I would hate to see the Leafs Defense w/o Dion on it. I watched all but maybe 5 games this season and he was instrumental in helping the Leafs make the playoffs. Lucic wanted to fight him when the Leafs had all the momentum, and he did the right thing by walking away. He doesnt fight as much as he used to in his "younger" days lol........ but has learnt to play a better game, everybody makes mistakes including guys making 6.5 mil per season. (another part of that jealousy = big paycheck, celebrity fiance, Captain of an Original Six team (in canada), style, swagger etc.... i can see why ppl are jealous) But i am glad he is on my team, does he make too much? probably so but Calgary gave him that contract and we got him basically for free. It will be interesting to see what he gets offered for his next payday coming soon. I know some ppl that are somewhat close to him and you would not believe how much this guy devotes to charity especially terminally ill children, but the public never sees that and its too bad.

Gonna be an interesting offseason, i hope! Now that Carlyle and Nonis see what they need to take the next step, but what a great "baby step" this one was this season, making the playoffs finally, and then nobody giving them a chance and to come back from 3 games to 1 against one of the best in the east to force a game seven, this is why i can still smile after last night, and will be all offseason long. :thumb:

And yea i agree with you, the Leafs/bruins series was much more exciting than the sens/canadiens, esp to habs fans lol
 

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Meanwhile, the Rangers and King Henrik Lundqvist rallied from a 3-1 deficit in games to beat the Capitals 5-0 on the road in game 7.

Beav, the Caps never led the series 3-1, each team won every game on home ice except for Game 7 in Washington.
 

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As a B's fan I was utter shock at the outcome of last nights game 7. At 4-1 with 10 mins left I had written off their season, especially with the way they were being beaten by the younger, much faster Leafs. Not until it was 4-2 did I check back in and see the 2 goals with the goalie pulled and the OT game winner. That was truly amazing.

I'm not going to pile on the Leafs hate wagon, I look at things unbiased and I will admit the Leafs have an incredibly bright future ahead of them and they're stacked with talent. Kadri, Lupul, Bozak, Gardiner, Kessel, JVR, Grabovski, all of those guys are jacked in talent, however, even though Reimer had a decent playoffs he's not the answer in net. This guy can't hold onto a puck when shot at him. He must have let 2 dozen shots bounce out of his glove and result in juicy rebounds over the course of the series. Their D can also use some help and I'm far from a Phaneuf fan but they're pretty good.

Anyway, hopefully the B's can carry this momentum into the next round against the NYR!
 

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I agree with both Iggy & Special K.

Here are my thoughts on the Boston/Toronto series:

-Yes, the Leafs choked. But they only choked because they were leading 4-1 late in the game. On the other hand, they should an incredible amount of resiliency by coming back in the series from a 3 games to 1 deficit. Had the Leafs managed to hold on to their lead in game 7, Boston would have been dubbed major chokers for letting a 3 games to 1 lead slip.

-Best players for the Leafs in this series were Kessel, Lupul, Grabovski, Gardiner, Franson & Reimer. JVR also had a very good series, along with the likes of Kulemin, Komarov & McClement. The penalty killing was great, and the powerplay very good. Nazem Kadri showed flashes of brilliance when paired with the likes of Kessel & Lupul, and Clark MacArthur had some key goals. Tyler Bozak had a good series & his absence from the lineup (due to a ruptured bicep) in the last two games was a blow to the Leafs. Reimer struggled in the last 10 minutes of the last game, mostly with his unability to hold onto the puck. But if it wasn't for his heroics during the series, the Leafs never would have managed to get to a game 7. Today on Primetime Sports, hosts Bob McKown & John Shannon praised Lupul for his leadership, Kessel for his two-way play & emotions showed throughout the series, and Grabovski's heart & desire. Shannon went on to say that Grabovski had, in his eyes, been the Leafs top performer & was truly impressed by his durability & courage throughout the playoffs.

-Dion Phaneuf had a so-so series, but a lot of his gaffes were likely due to the fact that he was playing between 26-30 minutes a game. His defensive partners were no better when goals were scored against that pairing, so i believe Phaneuf is taking a bad rap. Anyone who'll play that many minutes in a game is bound to get exhausted & make mental mistakes. Just ask P.K. Subban.

-Boston had been struggling over the past month or so & they were no better in the playoffs. If it wasn't for Tukka Rask's heroics, the series would have been over a long time ago since Toronto carried the offense in the bulk of games. Zdeno Chara was a horse in the final game & played over 30 minutes. So was Milan Lucic. If it wasn't for those two players & Patrice Bergeron, the Bruins would be playing golf today.

-Boston's best line throughout the series was the David Kreici line. The most disappointing was the Patrice Bergeron line. However, Bergeron was a kingpin on the faceoffs, which was the Leafs' achilles heel. The Leafs were inept when it came to faceoffs, but Boston is among the league leaders in this category. Tyler Seguin was a total offensive bust in the opening series, not getting a single point until the final goal scored by Bergeron. Brad Marchand was no better & he's very fortunate his boneheaded decisions (tripping Reimer behind the net, deliberately throwing a gatorade bottle onto the ice, etc) didn't wind up costing his team the series. As for Jaromir Jagr, he's lost more than a step. He can't skate as well as he used to, but he's still very strong with the puck. However, he's become one of the league's worst puck hogs & his lack of passing the puck hurt his team.

All in all, it was a very entertaining series, and i tip my hat off to Boston for their comeback. They never quit, and that was the key in the final outcome. As for the young Leafs, they deserved a much better fate than they got. However, they had nearly clinched the series & let it slip away. Sure, the non-calls by the referees in the final game didn't help, but the bottom line is that the Leafs have no one to blame but themselves for the final outcome.

Randy Carlyle's coaching was brilliant at times, but questionable some other times. Jake Gardiner should have been inserted into the lineup sooner, and he should have reduced Dion Phaneuf's minutes. But one key decision of his will haunt me forever: "What was he waiting for to call a timeout in those final minutes of the game when his team was clearly backed up against a wall, facing a Bruins onslaught?"

All in all, it was a very successful season for the Toronto Maple Leafs & i cannot help but be proud of how they performed in the playoffs. I hadn't even picked them to beat the Bruins, and if someone would have told me prior to the series that they'd take Boston to 7 games, i would have told them they're nuts! And to nearly come back from a 3 games to 1 deficit was absolutely astonishing. I didn't know they had it within them to come back from such adversity.

Go Sens!
 

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Great posts Special K and Doc Holliday! :thumb:

And good luck to the Bruins! (be nice to say the Young Leafs took one of the Stanley Cup Finalists to game 7 and gave them all the could handle)
 

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As a B's fan I was utter shock at the outcome of last nights game 7.

I'm not going to pile on the Leafs hate wagon, I look at things unbiased...

Hello SK,

I was shocked too, as I said. It's natural with a late 4-1 lead against us anyone would be. The world was shocked.

I have given the Leafs plenty of kudos previously. But I have no sympathy for anyone who constantly tells everyone who disagrees with him they know nothing about hockey and he knows everything. It's just a childish game of BS.

I read Docs post. Yes, Reimer was outstanding at times, maybe 80% of this series. But his weakness was being a rebound/2nd chance machine. If he could have hung on to just 20-25% more of the pucks hit at him the Leafs would be moving on...not out. I watched a replay of the entire game this afternoon. I thought the Bruins ran out of gas until Chara told the team there's nothing to lose. That and a goal not long after the Leafs took that 4-1 lead energized them. The Leafs ran out of gas in the 3rd period, and were largely dominated in overtime except for a couple of brief opportunities.

Why didn't Carlyle refresh his lines with more rested personnel at the end of regulation. He certainly was not "brilliant" at the critical moment. He stayed too long with tired players.

Generally I feel very bad for Leafs fans. That's not a shot, it's sympathy. It wasn't going to bother me too much if the Bruins had lost. We have a recent Cup. But we in Boston know how hard it is to keep waiting and being disappointed in our lifetime. I sympathize with any dedicated fan who has to face that situation. I honestly don't think beating Boston would have changed the eventual outcome. There are better teams the Leafs can't measure up to yet even if they seem to be well on the right track.

It was a great and entertaining series without much home ice advantage. I'm not sure Boston can overcome either Chicago or Pittsburgh if they see them. But, the Rangers should also be a good series with a contrast in team styles.

Cheers,

Merlot
 

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I have no doubt the Bruins will get by the Islanders this postseason. :rolleyes:

It was a great and entertaining series without much home ice advantage. I'm not sure Boston can overcome either Chicago or Pittsburgh if they see them. But, the Islanders should also be a good series with a contrast in team styles.

Cheers,

Merlot
 

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I think Doc being from Philadelphia, hates the Pens, therefore rooting for the Sens
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I dont understand how anyone who is not from Ottawa could support this team against Pittsburg... Do you really like HOCKEY, guys ?
 

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He has never been to Philly and and if a Flyers fan smacked him over the head with a Philly Cheesesteak Sandwich, he would think it's poutine with meat and peppers and onions.

Au contraire, the City of Brotherly Love is like my second home now. Iggy should know since he's my best buddy on this board & has visited me numerous times over the past year or two.

Hate the Pens, Go Sens!!!
 

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I dont understand how anyone who is not from Ottawa could support this team against Pittsburg... Do you really like HOCKEY, guys ?

Other from disliking anything that has to do with Pittsburgh (note the letter 'h'), i would likely still cheer for the Senators in that series. They're a team that faced & conquered adversity throughout the entire season, has suffered devastating injuries to their top players, managed to make the playoffs, have a very good & likeable coach in Paul MacLean, they have a good combination of youth, veterans & toughness, very good goaltending, and best of all: THEY TOTALLY DESTROYED THE MONTREAL CANADIENS.

p.s. I never liked the Penguins' owner anyway. Arrogant prick with a big, swollen head! He can lick my ass & suck my cock, as far as i'm concerned. By the way, what kind of name for a franchise is Penguins anyway? Why did the chose the world's most incompetent bird as its team name??
 
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