2014 Official Major League Baseball Thread

[EagerBeaver]

Who Should Replace Ivan Nova in the Yankees Rotation?

Who should replace Ivan Nova in the Yankees rotation?

A) David Phelps
B) Vidal Nuno
C) Adam Warren

I vote B) Nuno for the following reasons:

1. Phelps is more effective in the bullpen than Nuno is.
2. Nuno gives the Yankees a 2nd lefty in the rotation, which is much needed.
3. Nuno pitched 5 innings of shutout ball today, and deserves it.

Chercherfemmes votes A) Phelps.

 

[Merlot]

BOYZ!

As for JC's hockey intelligence, i do agree that he is knowledgable...

JC has demonstrated much more hockey savvy on this board than anyone WHEN he puts his mind to it. Only the blindly biased and bitter would deny it. However, I agree his manically obsessed mission to attack the Maple Leafs on every level with nearly every post has gone well beyond disturbing. A couples of nights ago one of these extensive posts after the Maple Leafs are dead for the season was a particularly sad display of the obsession.

Still, when a member with no named baseball team favorite spent 85% or more of all his posts in 2013 stalking another member with a harsh personal string of shots at the rate of 6-10 posts per day while making absolutely no attempt to include anything about baseball...then he has gone well beyond JC. Then he dares talk about Red Sox fans...puuuuulllleeeeeeze, he should grab a couch. At least JC is always on subject, not just chasing someone.

...but i'm fairly certain that Rumples is the one who made the post.

Maybe, but though the post was much longer than SKs gift for the best one line right on target attacks on this board, it was lacking the strong pertinent statistical analysis Rumples has always been very adept at. The real question is why are you guys still obsessed with Rumples? He's banned and the rules say his name should not be brought up, yet you guys can't get over him.

Nova had been hit hard to that point, having allowed six runs on eight hits, including four home runs. He was also charged with two more runs after he left the game, making his final line -- four-plus innings pitched, 8 earned runs and 4 homers allowed -- the worst posted by a Yankees' starter in 100 years, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Still, Nova said his arm felt fine until that final pitch."

100 FUCKEN YEARS!!!!!!!! Bwwwaaahhhaaaahhhh. That's hilarious!

It just shows you who can't help making the worst excuses when he blames an injury that happened after the big damage was done. The funny part is he seems to fool only one person...himself.

Last seasons success is what you call lightning in a bottle. Nobody on earth predicted they would contend never mind win the World Series so that I'll give ya.

This is what spooks Yankees fans the most. No matter how you spin it the BOSTON RED SOX ARE THE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS! Whether the Sox were the juggernaut of 2007 or the charmed team of 2013...it all amounts to the same result:

Now if I wanted to bluster like Beav I'd say....in 2013 John Farrell gave the greatest managerial performance ever and the team played an epic season for the ages to rival the greatest heros of Mt. Olympus.

:thumb:

Merlot

 

[daydreamer41]

Who should replace Ivan Nova in the Yankees rotation?

A) David Phelps
B) Vidal Nuno
C) Adam Warren

I vote B) Nuno for the following reasons:

1. Phelps is more effective in the bullpen than Nuno is.
2. Nuno gives the Yankees a 2nd lefty in the rotation, which is much needed.
3. Nuno pitched 5 innings of shutout ball today, and deserves it.

How about Betances? Although you are correct about Nuno being a Lefty. Betances is a righty, but I think given his size and power, Betances has the potential to be an excellent starting pitcher in the big leagues.

 

[EagerBeaver]

How about Betances? Although you are correct about Nuno being a Lefty. Betances is a righty, but I think given his size and power, Betances has the potential to be an excellent starting pitcher in the big leagues.

Have you seen him pitch this year? He is completely wild and has caused more mound visits by McCann and Rothschild than the entire rest of the staff combined. He is absolutely 100% a bullpen pitcher because of his mechanics and control issues. He has gotten the job done this year but I do not recommend watching him pitch if you have a bad ticker. High drama and high maintenance in all his outings. It does give Rothschild something to do, but I worry about his cardiac health as well.

 

[lgna69xxx]

B.

Nuno at the least deserves another start after today's performance.

Who should replace Ivan Nova in the Yankees rotation?

A) David Phelps
B) Vidal Nuno
C) Adam Warren

I vote B) Nuno for the following reasons:

1. Phelps is more effective in the bullpen than Nuno is.
2. Nuno gives the Yankees a 2nd lefty in the rotation, which is much needed.
3. Nuno pitched 5 innings of shutout ball today, and deserves it.

Chercherfemmes votes A) Phelps.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Iggy, Nuno today had 5 IP, 3 hits, 0 runs, 6 Ks. He pitched very well in 3 straight starts last year and then got hurt. I think he gives teams a different look, his nastiest pitch being a changeup which he can use to strike people out. I think he should stay in the rotation, and Phelps should be left in the pen. Phelps may also be hurt (Chercherfemmes thinks so), although he has been pitching well in short stints out of the pen.

 

[Doc Holliday]

EB, i admire your passion for baseball and the Yankees. But i have a question for you:

Will you keep on posting in this thread a month from now when your Yankees will comfortably be in the AL East's basement? Or will you go into a self-imposed exile until next winter? Just asking.

 

[Special K]

Let's just say that if Rumples isn't behind that particular post, then i'm certain he & SK are related in some way. Maybe he's SK's uncle, who knows. I don't believe in coincidences.

p.s. I never doubted Rumples' baseball I.Q. However, his hate for the Yankees & his great love for the Red Sox has also resulted in him being his worst ennemy in these threads. Were he not a Red Sox fan (nor a Yankee fan), he'd still be among us (merbites) today.

I can guarantee everyone that the previous post came from me and me alone. It was far too negative against the Sox to be from Rumps. Lol. I'm not afraid to actually look at facts and stats and be unbiased, which is unlike EVERY Yankee Fanboy that posts here.

 

[daydreamer41]

I can guarantee everyone that the previous post came from me and me alone. It was far too negative against the Sox to be from Rumps. Lol. I'm not afraid to actually look at facts and stats and be unbiased, which is unlike EVERY Yankee Fanboy that posts here.

What a biased statement coming from a typical Red Sox fan.

 

[Special K]

What a biased statement coming from a typical Red Sox fan.

It's not biased, it's factual DD. Geez, are you really that unintelligent?

 

[daydreamer41]

It's not biased, it's factual DD. Geez, are you really that unintelligent?

No, K, I am smarter than you. And you made a biased statement, though you can't see it that way because of your blatant bias.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Buchholz was terrible today, barely lasting 2 innings and allowing 6 earned runs on 7 hits. His ERA is now 7.71, which is absolutely awful considering he's supposed to be the ace of the staff. Considering he seems to always get injured year after year, maybe they should have traded him a season ago when his value was at an all-time high.

It's currently 6-0 after 5 innings.

The Red Sox don't look good, folks!

 

[Special K]

Buchholz was terrible today, barely lasting 2 innings and allowing 6 earned runs on 7 hits. His ERA is now 7.71, which is absolutely awful considering he's supposed to be the ace of the staff. Considering he seems to always get injured year after year, maybe they should have traded him a season ago when his value was at an all-time high.

It's currently 6-0 after 5 innings.

The Red Sox don't look good, folks!

Agreed. Should have been traded in the off-season if possible. BTW, Lester is the ACE, not Buchholz

 

[Doc Holliday]

Agreed. Should have been traded in the off-season if possible. BTW, Lester is the ACE, not Buchholz

I agree, so far Lester 'is' the ace. But to be fair, both of them were supposed to be the team's aces last year & this season. So far only one of them has pitched well.

Red Sox lost again, by the way. They nearly came back in a 7-6 loss.

Na-poli! Na-poli! Na-poli!

 

[Doc Holliday]

It's not biased, it's factual DD. Geez, are you really that unintelligent?

I will point out that of all baseball fans on this board, outside of myself SK will often be the only one posting an honest comment about the state of his own team. I have on several occasions seen him accurately pointing out negatives about his team & not always acting as any player's personal cheerleader. He calls a spade a spade as he sees it. For example, i don't ever recall him overpraising a rookie. Never have i seen him compare a rookie pitcher to the second-coming of Cy Young.

For example, if his favorite team (in this case the Red Sox) would struggle badly & the likely outcome would be the division's basement, i'd be surprised if he wouldn't admit it and post about it. On the other hand, i truly doubt we'd see anyone cheering for the Yankees (on this board) openly admit at how bad that team is. In their eyes (or so they try to make us believe), their team is young, fast, the pitching (and especially the bullpen) is great, the hitters clobber the hell out of the ball, and there is no doubt in their mind that they'll end up in first and win the World Series.

But to be fair, outside of SK, most of the Sox fans on this board act exactly like the Yankees fans. In their eyes, they have a great team, a great manager, a great pitching staff & they want us to believe that there is no doubt they'll once again win the World Series.

Generally, the two sides are mirror-images of one another.

p.s. Smuler is also a very honest poster in the baseball thread.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Well SK's comment on Lester being an ace may be honest, but to me Lester is a precarious ace. There is no question that he has horse like qualities - he is big, strong and durable, unlike Buchholz who is like the expensive disposable razor blade. The problem with Lester is that his success or lack thereof is dependent on the strike zone which the umpire is calling. If the umpire is squeezing the strike zone, then Lester, a pitcher who lives on the corners, is going to have all kinds of problems and his pitch counts are going to soar. If on the other hand Lester is given a generous strike zone, he will thrive and exploit and keep probing the outer limits of that strike zone until he reaches it. This is exactly what happened when he pitched against the Yankees last week. Lester actually got furious towards the end of that outing when some of his probes did not get called strikes even by that umpire's generous standards. I have seen other games where he was squeezed, his pitch count went over 100 in the 5th inning, and the Yankees eventually kicked his ass in the 6th-7th innings.

David Cone of the Yankees was exactly the same type of pitcher. Unfortunately, even though he had better stuff than Lester, Coney was not as big, strong and durable as Lester. The result is that he was shot as a pitcher by age 35. Too many games, too many high pitch counts, all from too much nibbling, ultimately did him in. Which was a shame because he was one of the most creative pitchers I have ever seen. He is now a superb pitching analyst on YES network.

 

[daydreamer41]

A fantastic line for Nova tonight. I guess you could call his outing LIGHTS ON!!

4 innings/ 8 hits / 8 earned runs / 4 HOMERS!!! This must mean that Super Nova is Tampa Bay's DB....DESIGNATED BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahaha. Of course EB's post was great to you, you're the typical biased uninformed Yankee Fanboy. Get over it. As for the article you posted here's ESPN's account. Read it, you might learn something. I'll even highlight the important part!!!

"It was just kind of a little pop, like when you feel a friction or something," Nova said of the 1-0 curveball to Longoria. "Honestly, I didn't think that I was hurt. When you're out there in the game, you just want to pitch."


Now this is the funniest part of the entire article!!!! Ready for this DD?



"Nova had been hit hard to that point, having allowed six runs on eight hits, including four home runs. He was also charged with two more runs after he left the game, making his final line -- four-plus innings pitched, 8 earned runs and 4 homers allowed -- the worst posted by a Yankees' starter in 100 years, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Still, Nova said his arm felt fine until that final pitch."

100 FUCKEN YEARS!!!!!!!! Bwwwaaahhhaaaahhhh. That's hilarious!

As far as calling others stupid DD, well I didn't specifically call YOU stupid but anyone that thinks you can pitch without one of your elbow ligaments, well, you get the picture or at least I hope you do.

Ok, SK, ready for some intelligent analysis? Let's compare Ivan Nova's performance on Saturday with Clay Buchholz's performance today, Monday.

Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
I Nova
(L, 2-2) 4.0 8 8 8 1 4 4 82-56 8.27

Nova's Game ERA: 18.00

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=340419130&teams=new-york-yankees-vs-tampa-bay-rays




Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
C Buchholz
(L, 0-2) 2.1 7 6 6 1 1 0 55-34 7.71

Buchholz's Game ERA: 25.71

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=340421102&teams=baltimore-orioles-vs-boston-red-sox

That's 25.71 (Buchholz) to 18.00 (Nova) ERA. If Farrell left Buchholz in for 4 innings, how much do you want to bet the Orioles would have scored at least another 4 during the next 1 2/3 innings.

Your hero rumps was anointing Buchholz to the Hall of Fame and Cy Young last year. And you were defending Buchholz also. Only now when Buchholz is pitching lousy you say they should have traded him.

 

[smuler]

I will point out that of all baseball fans on this board, outside of myself SK will often be the only one posting an honest comment about the state of his own team

What about me, and my Mets ?

Best Regards

Smuler

 

[EagerBeaver]

What about me, and my Mets ?

Best Regards

Smuler

Your posts on the Mets are way overly negative. They do not have a good team but they have a 9-9 record which is solid overachievement so far.

 

[daydreamer41]

But to be fair, outside of SK, most of the Sox fans on this board act exactly like the Yankees fans. In their eyes, they have a great team, a great manager, a great pitching staff & they want us to believe that there is no doubt they'll once again win the World Series.

I don't see that behavior except from the Red Sox fan crowd, with one posting pictures from their fluke World Series win every other day.

The American League East is fairly equal. There are no very bad teams and no very good teams. It seems this April has been pretty even for most teams. I couldn't tell you who will win this year. Of the teams with the best records so far, Brewers, A's, Dodgers, Braves and Tigers (5 teams which are .600 or better), only the Brewers are a surprise. The Cubs, Astros and Diamondbacks have records under .300. No other team is more than 4 games under .500.