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The "Boss" in his prime would indeed have had a short fuse after the last 2 games but as long as the Yanks rebound and take sundays game, a split on the road is better than losing the series. At least we are fortunate to cheer for the Yankees and not the rouge hose :thumb: Welcome to the Thread!
 

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It's after a game like this that I wish Steinbrenner was still alive. I don't think he'd have fired anyone this early into the season, but after the last two games, he'd certainly be stalking around the Yankee offices looking for someone to kick in the ass.

There is not as much difference as you think between then and now. The main difference is the absence of over-the-top statements which George used to make after poor performances such as the past two nights.

You probably did not notice but the Yankees quietly DFA'd Cesar Cabral after Friday night's disaster in which he hit 3 batters and threw one wild pitch in 1/3 of an inning. In the old days George would have ripped Cabral as gutless, now he is just quietly DFA'd. I was shocked by the move. In his prior outing Cabral came in for .2, struck out the two lefties he faced and was throwing very hard. Chercherfemmes thinks he is hurt. In any event it is hugely surprising to me that they would give up on him that quickly based on what I saw. In his place the Yankees brought up Matt Daley who was hammered last night.

Bottom line is Girardi has proven to be the best bullpen mechanic in the major leagues. I know I will be accused of being a "fanboy" for saying it, but it is a true and factual statement proven repeatedly over the last few years. What he did in 2009 was the best bullpen rehabilitation job in the history of MLB. So I don't worry even if these moves seem questionable. Now that Rivera is gone people will start to have a better appreciation for how Girardi constructs, develops and maintains his bullpen. In Girardi We Trust!
 

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It's a good thing that Mike Napoli doesn't play for Washington, that guy has to be the laziest runner that I have ever seen or maybe he is just plain slow and that is why Farrell doesn't bench his sorry, lazy, ass.

I don't think he's lazy. I simply think his body is all broken down from years of suspected abuse & not taking care of himself.
 

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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh BOYZ!!! :rolleyes:

Bottom line is Girardi has proven to be the best bullpen mechanic in the major leagues. I know I will be accused of being a "fanboy" for saying it, but it is a true and factual statement proven repeatedly over the last few years.

As usual, we get the compulsively automatic FANBOY statement testifying that everything connected to pinstripes is made of platinum and blessed by heaven without one iota of facts or reference base for proof...ala...Shatner is God. :lol: Well, here are some actual facts:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2013-reliever-pitching.shtml

In 2013 the Yanks were 15th in the MLB for runs allowed by the bullpen with Mariano Rivera still performing as a legit shut down reliever. Actually that's pretty poor considering still having that huge advantage with the greatest reliever ever to cover the pen. In 2014 so far the Yanks rank 22nd in the MLB without Rivera, and in both years the Red Sox were/are better by the same criteria. And this is the "best bullpen mechanic in the major leagues...over the last few years"??? :noidea:

I like Girardi a lot, but when you guys act like he's some mythological super being in contrast to facts you demean a good man with cheap unsubstantiated kissy-face worship.

BTW: why does Chercher really need a message boy to post his thoughts??? Georgie would also have ripped that as gutless. C'mon Cher, stop hiding.

Last time I checked the standings, the Yankees were still in first and the Red Sox were still in last, but whatever...

So, a 2-game separation on April 20 is your standard for this boast. Really? So insecure so early?

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As the Doc sees it.....

So far the season has pretty much being going along as i expected it would.

The Jays are playing pretty good & the starting pitching is quite decent. Mark Buehrle is among the top pitchers in MLB. The guy knows how to pitch. R.A. Dickey is starting slowly, but he'll settle down when he has a few games under his belt, just like last season. Brandon Morrow has been inconsistent & it's not surprising considering he has barely pitched in two years. Drew Hutchison has pitched extremely well & showing his great spring wasn't a fluke. Dustin McGowan had a tough opener, but has settled down & pitching very effectively. The bullpen has been somewhat inconsistent, but most of this is due to the fact closer Casey Janssen hasn't come off the DL yet. The hitting is starting to come around & the power numbers are among the league's best. Jose Reyes played his first game yesterday & hasn't lost a step. The biggest injury so far has been to infielder Maicer Izturis, who destroyed his knee while walking down the dugout steps. He had surgery and his season is likely over. He was off to a very good start, but he won't be missed that much since the organization is rich in decent infielders. The Jays are in first place & all i'll add is that it's a very much better start than last season.

The Tampa Bay Rays are dealing with devastating long-term injuries to their starting pitching. The bullpen is average at best & they have no closer. What carries the team once again are the hitters & team chemistry. I doubt Evan Longoria can carry this team on his entire shoulders once again. David Price has been solid, but everyone knows he's outta there if the team gets off to a slow start & doesn't improve much by July.

The Boston Red Sox are pretty much where i expected them to be. A solid team who'll contend, but this season will prove that last season's successes were an abherration. John Farrell in my book isn't a very good manager. He's not in the same league as the likes of John Madden, Buck Showalter & even Joe Girardi. Pedroia is off to a slow start once again & he's playing with a damaged wrist. Big Pappi is being Big Pappi. Mike Napoli isn't getting any younger & his body looks like it's poised to break down. Big questions at third base & shortstop. I'm not impressed with the outfield. Jackie Bradley Jr. should not be in the majors. The Red Sox greatly miss Jacoby Ellsbury, who happens to be the rival Yankees' best player. The starting pitching is decent. John Lester & Jake Peavy are solid. Not sold on Bucholz. Lackie will have a bad year, i can feel it. Bullpen very ordinary. No closer. Victorino's absence isn't helping. Adding Pierzinsky will destroy team chemistry. The guy will be a cancer in that clubhouse. The Red Sox will fade by August and will be battling it out with the Orioles for 3rd place in the division. Let's put it this way: three years ago, it was all about the worst collapse in the history of baseball & the Popeye's fried chicken/drinking in the clubhouse incident. Two years ago it was all about Bobby Valentine & how he wasn't a good fit for this club. Last year, they surprised everybody, had a lot of luck and wound up winning the World Series despite being managed by John Farrell, one of the league's worst managers in my opinion. But once again, this team's past problems are resurfacing when we learn that Middlebrooks was screwing the tv reporter. Same thing happened with Jason Varitek a few years back. This is a team that has players who should be focusing on baseball instead of finding ways in how to screw the next pretty tv reporter. It seems that it's only with this team where this kind of stuff happens.

The Baltimore Orioles. When i think about the Orioles, manager Buck Showalter comes to mind. Great manager in my opinion & he rarely gets outmanaged. He's innovative & you never know what to expect from him. His team hasn't changed much as last season & i don't expect them to contend. Average starting pitching. No ace. Decent bullpen. The hitters are okay. Nick Markakis isn't getting any younger. I don't expect them to contend, but they won't finish in last place.

The New York Yankees. A god-awful team of has-beens if you ask me. Old. Very old. A team led by Derek Jeter, who'll spend a good part of the season on the DL or being 'rested'. His last season, but sadly is final season should have been last year. Big hole at first base. Texeira is injured again. I once again suspect that years of abuse (e.g. steroids/hgh) are now haunting him. His body is prematurely breaking down. Second base is another big hole. Losing potential future hall-of-famer Robinson Canoe was devastating to this team. He was supposed to be a Yankee-for-life, but they lost him because either they weren't offering him enough or simply had no money left to re-sign him. They wasted way too much money on Jacoby Ellsbury & Tanaka. They also overspent for Brian McCann, but it wasn't a bad acquistion in my opinion. Sure, he sucks at the plate right now, but his hitting stats will gradually improve. Third base also is a big question mark, but the guy they have playing there right now (Solarte) has been surprising. But will it last? Kelly Johnson is now a starter with this team & this tells you all you need to know.

The outfield has been very good. Gardiner is okay in right & one of the rare players it has on the roster with above-average speed. Ellsbury is the other one with great speed & has been their best player. However, they way overpaid for him. The only way that kind of spending can be overcome & justified is if they win the World Series either this season or the next, which will definitely not happen. Carlos Beltran has also played very well. Ichiro is okay, but also not getting any younger & he's a shadow of his ol' self.

Pitching. Starting pitching is decent, but not exceptional. The top two pitchers (in my opinion) are Kuroda & Tanaka. But the problem with Tanaka is that they once again spent way too much money to get this guy. He's good & he'll continue being very good for a few years, but he's not THAT good to justify spending that crazy amount of money on just to have bragging rights over other teams who were interested in signing him. Pineda is their next best pitcher, but still has question marks on whether or not he can remain healthy for an entire season. Sabathia is good, but a shade of his ol' self. I think maybe his weight loss has made him less effective, but it could be age & how he abused his body (not taking care of himself & keeping his weight down) over the years. Ivan Nova. Super Nova some Yankees fans nicknamed him. I never got that nickname since i was never impressed by this guy. Now his season likely over with a suspected ligament tear in his pitching elbow. It looks like he'll be undergoing Tommy John in the near future.

The bullpen? Extremely average at best. David Robertson will never be able to replace the great Mariano Rivera. And he's already on the DL. Not exactly the great start to his career as a closer that he or anyone wanted.

I consider Joe Girardi to be one of the better managers in the league, but he's not a miracle worker. Even the great Sparky Anderson or Earl Weaver couldn't have accomplished much with this team of aging veterans & players with broken bodies. You need good pitching to win & this is one thing the Yankees also lack of. Decent starting pitching, but that's about it.

The Yankees will finish in last place in the AL East. I'm now certain of this.

As i see it today:

Top 2 teams: Jays & Rays.

Followed by: Boston & Baltimore.

Worst team: Yankees.
 

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I don't think he's lazy. I simply think his body is all broken down from years of suspected abuse & not taking care of himself.

Last I looked he's off to a decent start, batting almost .300, OPS of .855 and with the most RBI on the team :confused: Then again it's still only April 20, but that means for Yankee Fanboys it's time to start planning the parade! Lol.
 

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A fantastic line for Nova tonight. I guess you could call his outing LIGHTS ON!!

4 innings/ 8 hits / 8 earned runs / 4 HOMERS!!! This must mean that Super Nova is Tampa Bay's DB....DESIGNATED BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOYZ!



OMG. The Yankees gave up 14 earned runs in a 16-1 mass slaughter. In just one game the Yankees went from 3rd to 7th in WHIP in the AL, and they went from a team ERA of 3.45 to 4.53, 12th out of 15 in the AL. You might as well say the Rays made Joe.t and all of the Yankees their BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really Yankees fans, get it through your self-entitled heads that it's very early and only chumps drool in April. You guys have one pitcher who has done great, one pine tar asterisk, and a whole lot of question marks.

Cheers,

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The above posts are why the world thinks lowly of Boston Red Sox fans. Very low class reactions to a single game while a pitcher has injured himself, and on top of it Ivan Nova had a torn elbow ligament and may be out the entire season. Guess what? If he had torn it before the game and he was pitching with it, he may not pitch too well. Very childish, you 2 remaining Boston Red Sox fans.

Besides, all teams get shellacked at least once in a season. It's only one loss, the same loss if the score was 2-1 or 16-1.

I thought it was interesting that the backup Shortstop Dean Anna pitched the 8th inning. He gave up a couple of runs, but he must be a very versatile ballplayer. On a bright side, Dellin Betances pitched 1 2/3 innings with no runs and 3 K's.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...va-yank-torn-elbow-ligament-article-1.1762648
 

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The Boston Red Sox are pretty much where i expected them to be. A solid team who'll contend, but this season will prove that last season's successes were an abherration. John Farrell in my book isn't a very good manager. He's not in the same league as the likes of John Madden, Buck Showalter & even Joe Girardi. Pedroia is off to a slow start once again & he's playing with a damaged wrist. Big Pappi is being Big Pappi. Mike Napoli isn't getting any younger & his body looks like it's poised to break down. Big questions at third base & shortstop. I'm not impressed with the outfield. Jackie Bradley Jr. should not be in the majors. The Red Sox greatly miss Jacoby Ellsbury, who happens to be the rival Yankees' best player. The starting pitching is decent. John Lester & Jake Peavy are solid. Not sold on Bucholz. Lackie will have a bad year, i can feel it. Bullpen very ordinary. No closer. Victorino's absence isn't helping. Adding Pierzinsky will destroy team chemistry. The guy will be a cancer in that clubhouse. The Red Sox will fade by August and will be battling it out with the Orioles for 3rd place in the division. Let's put it this way: three years ago, it was all about the worst collapse in the history of baseball & the Popeye's fried chicken/drinking in the clubhouse incident. Two years ago it was all about Bobby Valentine & how he wasn't a good fit for this club. Last year, they surprised everybody, had a lot of luck and wound up winning the World Series despite being managed by John Farrell, one of the league's worst managers in my opinion. But once again, this team's past problems are resurfacing when we learn that Middlebrooks was screwing the tv reporter. Same thing happened with Jason Varitek a few years back. This is a team that has players who should be focusing on baseball instead of finding ways in how to screw the next pretty tv reporter. It seems that it's only with this team where this kind of stuff happens.

Seriously Mr. Holliday, while you have few valid points here where do you come up with the rest of this incredibly inaccurate information? Lol.

1). Last seasons success is what you call lightning in a bottle. Nobody on earth predicted they would contend never mind win the World Series so that I'll give ya.

2). Farrell- Also not a huge fan. He's made some very suspect in-game decisions since becoming manager. He's definitely no Joe Maddon who I feel is the best manager in baseball.

3). Pedroia will bounce back with his usual high .200's-.300 average and clutch hits. His fielding is second to none in the league.

4). Napoli - see previous post

5). Big questions at third & SS? Really? Xander Boegarts is already a stud and there's no question he's going to be so for some time to come!!! 3rd base I'll give you as a question mark right now.

6) JBJ yes he's a downgrade from Ellsbury but he's also a rookie. His defense is superb as well as his arm is a gun and will only get stronger. Not worried about him as a present and future outfielder.

7). Starting pitching I would consider now to be a weakness. After Lester you have Lackey who appears to be reverting back to his 2012 year and I believe it's because the Sox own him for the next two seasons for diddly squat and he wants an extension now. Fuck him!!!! Buchholz is a mental midget, never been a fan though he's shown flashes of brilliance at times. I'd have him on the trading block while they can still get something for him. Doubront is an average #4 guy and the same with Peavey.

8). Now. Hahaha. The bullpen. The bullpen with THE best ERA in baseball so far. NO CLOSER????? WHAT? K-O-J-I. That's how you spell closer sir.

Im on an iPad so I can't continue on but you get the gist of what's written. As I said you have some valid points but some asinine ones as well.
 

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The above posts are why the world thinks lowly of Boston Red Sox fans. Very low class reactions to a single game while a pitcher has injured himself, and on top of it Ivan Nova had a torn elbow ligament and may be out the entire season. Guess what? If he had torn it before the game and he was pitching with it, he may not pitch too well. Very childish, you 2 remaining Boston Red Sox fans.

Besides, all teams get shellacked at least once in a season. It's only one loss, the same loss if the score was 2-1 or 16-1.

I thought it was interesting that the backup Shortstop Dean Anna pitched the 8th inning. He gave up a couple of runs, but he must be a very versatile ballplayer. On a bright side, Dellin Betances pitched 1 2/3 innings with no runs and 3 K's.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...va-yank-torn-elbow-ligament-article-1.1762648

Before casting stones DD why don't read back to your Fanboy breathren's posts, specifically post #157!! That would be why Yankee fans are the most looked down upon fans in all of sports. ;-)

Oh and if you think he started the game with a torn ligament in his elbow you're far more unintelligent than I had ever imagined. It happened on his pitch to Longoria in the 5th inning!
 

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Before casting stones DD why don't read back to your Fanboy breathren's posts, specifically post #157!! That would be why Yankee fans are the most looked down upon fans in all of sports. ;-)

Oh and if you think he started the game with a torn ligament in his elbow you're far more unintelligent than I had ever imagined. It happened on his pitch to Longoria in the 5th inning!

Really? You don't know when the tear started. Are you a Dr., K? They think he tore it in the fifth inning.

From the article:

In the fifth, Nova had two men on base with nobody out with Evan Longoria at the plate. Bench coach Tony Pena saw Nova wince after delivering a pitch to Longoria, prompting Joe Girardi and assistant athletic trainer Mark Littlefield to head to the mound.

"I saw him shaking his arm a little bit so I ran out just to check him," Girardi said. "I said to him, 'Where are you feeling it?' And he said, his elbow, but he wanted to still pitch. I said, 'No, you're done,' and took him out."

The damage could have happened before that. The fifth inning is when Pena and Girardi noticed Nova reacting to throwing a pitch. So don't me unintelligent, K. Got it?

Another bad trait of Red Sox fans, calling others stupid (unintelligent) when they are not so bright themselves.

About Post #157, Lackey didn't tear his elbow ligament. EB made a good post.
 

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Really? You don't know when the tear started. Are you a Dr., K? They think he tore it in the fifth inning.

From the article:

In the fifth, Nova had two men on base with nobody out with Evan Longoria at the plate. Bench coach Tony Pena saw Nova wince after delivering a pitch to Longoria, prompting Joe Girardi and assistant athletic trainer Mark Littlefield to head to the mound.

"I saw him shaking his arm a little bit so I ran out just to check him," Girardi said. "I said to him, 'Where are you feeling it?' And he said, his elbow, but he wanted to still pitch. I said, 'No, you're done,' and took him out."

The damage could have happened before that. The fifth inning is when Pena and Girardi noticed Nova reacting to throwing a pitch. So don't me unintelligent, K. Got it?

Another bad trait of Red Sox fans, calling others stupid (unintelligent) when they are not so bright themselves.

About Post #157, Lackey didn't tear his elbow ligament. EB made a good post.

Hahahahaha. Of course EB's post was great to you, you're the typical biased uninformed Yankee Fanboy. Get over it. As for the article you posted here's ESPN's account. Read it, you might learn something. I'll even highlight the important part!!!

"It was just kind of a little pop, like when you feel a friction or something," Nova said of the 1-0 curveball to Longoria. "Honestly, I didn't think that I was hurt. When you're out there in the game, you just want to pitch."


Now this is the funniest part of the entire article!!!! Ready for this DD?



"Nova had been hit hard to that point, having allowed six runs on eight hits, including four home runs. He was also charged with two more runs after he left the game, making his final line -- four-plus innings pitched, 8 earned runs and 4 homers allowed -- the worst posted by a Yankees' starter in 100 years, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Still, Nova said his arm felt fine until that final pitch."

100 FUCKEN YEARS!!!!!!!! Bwwwaaahhhaaaahhhh. That's hilarious!

As far as calling others stupid DD, well I didn't specifically call YOU stupid but anyone that thinks you can pitch without one of your elbow ligaments, well, you get the picture or at least I hope you do. ;)
 

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Seriously Mr. Holliday, while you have few valid points here where do you come up with the rest of this incredibly inaccurate information? Lol.

1). Last seasons success is what you call lightning in a bottle. Nobody on earth predicted they would contend never mind win the World Series so that I'll give ya.

2). Farrell- Also not a huge fan. He's made some very suspect in-game decisions since becoming manager. He's definitely no Joe Maddon who I feel is the best manager in baseball.

3). Pedroia will bounce back with his usual high .200's-.300 average and clutch hits. His fielding is second to none in the league.

4). Napoli - see previous post

5). Big questions at third & SS? Really? Xander Boegarts is already a stud and there's no question he's going to be so for some time to come!!! 3rd base I'll give you as a question mark right now.

6) JBJ yes he's a downgrade from Ellsbury but he's also a rookie. His defense is superb as well as his arm is a gun and will only get stronger. Not worried about him as a present and future outfielder.

7). Starting pitching I would consider now to be a weakness. After Lester you have Lackey who appears to be reverting back to his 2012 year and I believe it's because the Sox own him for the next two seasons for diddly squat and he wants an extension now. Fuck him!!!! Buchholz is a mental midget, never been a fan though he's shown flashes of brilliance at times. I'd have him on the trading block while they can still get something for him. Doubront is an average #4 guy and the same with Peavey.

8). Now. Hahaha. The bullpen. The bullpen with THE best ERA in baseball so far. NO CLOSER????? WHAT? K-O-J-I. That's how you spell closer sir.

Im on an iPad so I can't continue on but you get the gist of what's written. As I said you have some valid points but some asinine ones as well.

Special K, you never told anyone that you granted Rumples access to your Merb account. ;)
 

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Special K, you never told anyone that you granted Rumples access to your Merb account. ;)

That's what I think too. Walk like a duck (rumps), talk like a duck (rumps), it must be rumps (duck).
 

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Special K, you never told anyone that you granted Rumples access to your Merb account. ;)

Nahhh...I'm somewhat baseball intelligent too. I sure do miss the immensely baseball educated Rumps though. Nor do I come anywhere close to the level of intelligence Joel Cairo disseminates in the hockey threads. ;)
 

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Nahhh...I'm somewhat baseball intelligent too. I sure do miss the immensely baseball educated Rumps though. Nor do I come anywhere close to the level of intelligence Joel Cairo disseminates in the hockey threads. ;)

This has to be the funniest post in this thread so far. :lol: :lol: LMAO
 

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That's what I think too. Walk like a duck (rumps), talk like a duck (rumps), it must be rumps (duck).

Let's just say that if Rumples isn't behind that particular post, then i'm certain he & SK are related in some way. Maybe he's SK's uncle, who knows. I don't believe in coincidences. ;)

p.s. I never doubted Rumples' baseball I.Q. However, his hate for the Yankees & his great love for the Red Sox has also resulted in him being his worst ennemy in these threads. Were he not a Red Sox fan (nor a Yankee fan), he'd still be among us (merbites) today.
 

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Are you saying that Special K is auctioning off time shares to use his handle to the highest bidder among a group of banned posters? Unless he has a sleeper handle, I am not sure how he would do that.
 

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Are you saying that Special K is auctioning off time shares to use his handle to the highest bidder among a group of banned posters? Unless he has a sleeper handle, I am not sure how he would do that.

I'm just teasing SK.....or am I? I've often had people send me stuff & asking me to post it for them. Whether I did or didn't isn't the issue. All i'm saying that it's entirely possible since his post was very un-SK-like and very Rumples-like. But who knows....maybe the similarity was simply a coincidence, who knows. No big deal.

You've never shared a handle or account with another person, EB?? If not, don't try it. Only negative things can come out of it. I learned this several years ago on some other board(s) when my buddy said some things he shouldn't have & i wound up being the one having to do damage control once i got word of what he had done. I still remember some of the comments at the time "Doc, it's so unlike you!" "Doc, were you drunk or something when you posted this?" Take a deep breath, turn the page & look ahead.........life goes on & it should be cherished.

p.s. To be fair, back in those days laptop computers weren't very popular when you were on the road & you either had to share a computer with a buddy or go to an internet cafe. Sometimes the buddy didn't notice he had to log out when he'd get on a board (not merb) and wind up posting stuff that would show up under your handle. Well, that was his excuse. Moral of this: don't let other hobbyists use your computer or else it might come back biting you in the ass! :lol:
 

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I never shared or auctioned time shares to my handle but I did have a banned poster ask me to post a rebuttal to something one of the SPs posted, and I refused to do so. I told him to email the Mods.

I agree with you that the Special K post did not seem like his normal grammar and writing style and more like a Rumples style post. But I concluded that this being a holiday weekend he was probably drinking and perhaps his style just drifted with the booze.

I actually drank 3 large mimosas today.
 

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Let's just say that if Rumples isn't behind that particular post, then i'm certain he & SK are related in some way. Maybe he's SK's uncle, who knows. I don't believe in coincidences. ;)

p.s. I never doubted Rumples' baseball I.Q. However, his hate for the Yankees & his great love for the Red Sox has also resulted in him being his worst ennemy in these threads. Were he not a Red Sox fan (nor a Yankee fan), he'd still be among us (merbites) today.

I did doubt rumps' baseball IQ, mainly because what you pointed out. He could not be unbiased. Rumps would go on and on about how washed up Jeter was, even 5 years back. Jeter has put up All Star stats well into his late 30's. David Ortiz, who is 2 years younger than Jeter was Boston's Most Valuable Player in their World Series win and in the 2013 season. Without Ortiz, Boston would not have won. Jeter was just as valuable to the Yankees in 2009. Not once did rumps say that Ortiz was too old.

There were other things that Rumps claimed or said that I found not very baseball savy. And the worse part was he would go on and on until he had the last word, no matter how silly he may look. As I have said before, the Yankees are not my favorite team, but the more rumps hated the Yankees, the more I found myself liking and defending the Yankees. Rumps had that affect on me.
 
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