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EagerBeaver

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Lights out Pineda

He just gassed Xander Bogaerts. Big timed him with raw cheese. I think this is what happened when he returned to the dugout:

Bogaerts: "Skip, was I late on that fastball?"
Farrell: "Let's put it this way kid, I think that train left the station. Stand farther back in the batter's box."
 

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If it is so blatant then how come your manager Farrell, a former pitcher, is asleep at the switch? You are telling me Farrell is a fucking moron. The YES announcers are saying Farrell isn't saying anything because Bucholz is also cheating and if he exposes, then Girardi exposes. And Farrell knows if he says jack fucking shit, Girardi will rip Bucholz a new asshole for the world to see.

What you do not understand is that one of the great things about baseball is the threat of retaliation.
 

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It'll come out Beav, just relax. Lol. Little worried that your savior is a blatant disgusting cheater??? Hahaha. I'm sure the tape will be sent to the league.

This is the exact reason why I'm barely posting in this asinine thread this season. Every Yankee fans ridiculous lack of bias is nauseating!! And the kicker is, your team sucks!!!! Hahaha. That's the hilarity in it all.
 

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If Pineda was doing something blatantly illegal it's only because the Yankees have something on the Red Sox. They may have even sent word to the Red Sox dugout about it. That's common sense as to how these things go down in baseball. The Yankees had something on George Brett and they waited until Brett hit a game winning hit to expose it in the pine tar game. The Yankees knew Brett was illegally pine tarring his bat for a season and a half and waited until he hurt them to expose it.
 

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The YES announcers are saying Farrell isn't saying anything because Bucholz is also cheating and if he exposes, then Girardi exposes. And Farrell knows if he says jack fucking shit, Girardi will rip Bucholz a new asshole for the world to see.

What you do not understand is that one of the great things about baseball is the threat of retaliation.

If you had any clue you would already know that Buchholz and many many other pitchers use ROSIN legally on their wrists, not pine tar in their palms!! Lol. I'm sure Farrell doesn't give a fuck what Girardi thinks or will do.
 

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This response from a fan to that link pretty much sums it up, and quite well I might add ;)

"You just won a World Series and you’re bitching about a regular season game. Hey Boston, your inferiority complex is showing"

Pineda was indeed LIGHTS OUT tonight and is making Cashman look like the great GM that he is with the Pineda for Montero trade and dont forget the other piece in that trade for the NYY, Jose Campos and he is back to pitching after his surgery as well and was a Highly touted prospect when the trade went down.


 

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Just heard Pineda interviewed in the Yankees lockeroom. He said it was dirt on his hand, and probably mixed with sweat on his hands. He said at some point in the game he rubbed the dirt around the mound, which he is permitted to do. He said the umpires and Red Sox said nothing. Squat. Farrell was also interviewed and he said he was made aware but Pineda's palm was clean after the 4th inning so there was nothing to say. Pineda probably took a piss and washed the dirt from his hands between the 4th and 5th innings.

Much ado about nothing.
 

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Wasn't there something last year about buckholz using the grease from that greasy hair of his during a Jay's game? Also i believe there was another incident where lester was using something to "Doctor" the ball but nothing came of it.

As far as Farrell not saying anything to the umps tonight, it is likely because his pitchers are doing something to the ball a few times over the course of 162 and best to keep things as quiet as possible, lol.
 

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Actually Iggy another explanation was provided for Farrell's silence in this article, by none other than Clay Buchholz. Buchholz said he had no problem with what Pineda was doing, because it was cold, it was hard getting a grip on the ball and the last thing you want is a guy who throws as hard as Pineda losing his grip on the ball and then hitting people in the head:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...ays-substance-hand-vs-boston-red-sox-was-dirt

"No, especially on cold windy nights, it's tough to get a grip on the baseball," Buchholz said. "I had that instance last year in Toronto, people said I had stuff all over my body you can use -- rosin, water, the whole sunscreen stuff, whatever. I'd rather have a grip on the baseball and semi-know where it's going [than] have no grip and get somebody hurt.

"As hard as [Pineda] was throwing early, ain't no one want to get hit, especially around the head. I don't think any organization would want to do anything about it. Scuffing the ball is one thing, if you're actually creating more control over where you want to throw it, giving you any type of edge. But as long as I've been around, I haven't seen sticky substance give anyone an edge."

- Clay Buchholz

If Bucholz had no problem with it, nobody here should either.
 

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Pineda is not going to be punished. I would also note something this article does not mention: dirt is not a foreign substance. It is a natural substance. It is on every single baseball field in the world. Players slide into dirt and get it on their faces, hands, bodies. Happens all the time. Dirt is on baseball uniforms, especially on the players who play the game the right way. It's on caps and it is on shoes.

In addition, sweat is not a foreign substance. I suppose the sweat of an alien would be, but sweat on an Earth-bound human being is not a foreign substance. Sweat is a natural substance produced by sweat glands. Therefore the two ingredients of the substance on Pineda's hands were natural substances. NOT foreign substances.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/10768154/michael-pineda-new-york-yankees-punished
 

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HE'S A DIRTY ROTTEN CHEATER WHO SHOULD BE BANNED FROM BASEBALL PERMANENTLY!!! - Iggy and Joe.t

Of course this is what they said last year when Clay Buchholz was accused for the same unproven offense. They were all over this issue for a long time demanding a ban due to a video allegedly showing the presence of a banned substance even though the substance had not been identified and there was some question about it being a banned substance at all. Where is this call with the same 100% condemning certainty by these same BOYZ today. I don't even have to read any of their posts to know it doesn't exist because neither has any HONOR when the shoe is on the other foot for exactly the same circumstances where pinstripes are involved. No principles, no scruples, no honor.

John Farrell said it was a non issue, Buchholz said it was a non issue, even Papi said it was a non issue, the only person this is a issue to is SK, on to the next story.:rolleyes:

Girardi didn't make Buchholz an issue last year yet you cried continuously about it. You want to dump the issue now because Joe.t is acting like the definition of hypocrite.

Ellsbury was a great leadoff, when he wasn't on abnormally extended leaves. If he had Pedroia's heart a team of bulldozers couldn't have kept him from playing. Still, he was a legitimate 5-tool leadoff player much of the time. These are rare, so the likelihood of finding a matching replacement is near zero. The threat brought by his presence is a significant loss. Cheers all,

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This is exactly why he got the money he got. He has the 5 tools. Most impressive thing I have seen from him now that I watch him every day is his rapid acceleration as a base runner. When he is off to steal second base, he is at full speed on his 2nd step. This is the rarest thing of all, even in premiere basestealers. He is the best I have seen since Rickey Henderson played for the Yankees.

However, on the Yankees he has been deposited by the wise Girardi into the 3 hole, this because Gardner has great leadoff skills but not the same power as Ellsbury.

This is how I talk about a player regardless of the uniform. Honestly. I didn't downgrade him, knock him, or portray him in any other way than what he is...pinstripes or not.

If it is so blatant then how come your manager Farrell, a former pitcher, is asleep at the switch? You are telling me Farrell is a fucking moron. The YES announcers are saying Farrell isn't saying anything because Bucholz is also cheating and if he exposes, then Girardi exposes. And Farrell knows if he says jack fucking shit, Girardi will rip Bucholz a new asshole for the world to see.

What you do not understand is that one of the great things about baseball is the threat of retaliation.

This is how you talk about an issue, solely because of the uniform. You may not have gone as far as the no-honor twins, but you made the same basic claims. Now you talk about reactions based on retaliation. How revealing of your thought process: retaliation, blame, tit for tat, threats and cover-up are what you focus on.

The entire baseball world is talking today about how this kind of thing goes on everywhere and how at certain levels there's some kind of de facto gentlemen's agreement giving it a pass most of the time except when it gets so damn obvious it becomes an embarrassment to the game itself. Yet you've got to puff yourself up with total garbage about Farrell fearing what Girardi might do. Farrell would NOT give a damn how Girardi feels on any issue if he felt it was right to call it out. Both of them are simply treating both issues as they see it. I personally don't think any manager should let this go on. They should call it out no matter who the accused team is regarding the rules, which should not be a joke, regardless of gentlemen's agreements. If it's against the rules take care of it or change the rules. But these men choose to treat each other with the same criteria. Yet you Yankees fans can't ever own up to anything without this shady subverting of the issue.

If Pineda was doing something blatantly illegal it's only because the Yankees have something on the Red Sox.

So you approve of cheating through de facto blackmail. Really.

"You just won a World Series and you’re bitching about a regular season game. Hey Boston, your inferiority complex is showing"....

You sure cried for some time over a one-game incident. Talk about insecurity, you're all either defensive, attacking or ignoring the FACTS.

Actually Iggy another explanation was provided for Farrell's silence in this article, by none other than Clay Buchholz. Buchholz said he had no problem with what Pineda was doing, because it was cold, it was hard getting a grip on the ball and the last thing you want is a guy who throws as hard as Pineda losing his grip on the ball and then hitting people in the head:.

Thanks for pointing out the the Boston Red Sox aren't making the same cheating crisis out of this incident all three of you guys hammered at for days last year. I don't support cheating by anyone, but Girardi and Farrell are using the same standard of play and reaction to an ALLEGED cheating incident this year and last. But the facts are the photos show the very high probability this is an illegal substance.

Anyone calling this wet glistening black mass dirt based on the photo is a fanboy sellout. If it is sweat why is that black spot the only apparently sweating area on his hand or entire arm. :rolleyes:

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Oh right Beav, it only rained (didn't at all) on one small spot on his hand? Dirt only sticks on that spot? Dirt shines like that on a dry night while the rest of his sweaty arm stays perfectly dry?

In addition, sweat is not a foreign substance.

NOT foreign substances.

Right Beav, Pineda is the perfect evolution of the pitcher. He only "SWEATS :lol: on one tiny spot of his body, right under the baseball. :D :crazy:

Like last year we can't be sure what it is. Like last year no one chose to look at it despite some information AT HAND for both managers. Like last year the photos implicate the pitcher. Unlike last year the same accusers that wanted Buchholz hung out to dry are giving their player a total pass... and a lot of very shady excuses.

The embarrassment has been the shady excuses and complete turnaround of principles ONLY due to the uniform by you three Yankees fans.

YOU GUYS MAKE ME LAUGH, :lol:

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Nuff Said, thanks for posting that EB.

Move on rouge hose fans, nothing to see here, Game 2 tonight.
"No, especially on cold windy nights, it's tough to get a grip on the baseball," Buchholz said. "I had that instance last year in Toronto, people said I had stuff all over my body you can use -- rosin, water, the whole sunscreen stuff, whatever. I'd rather have a grip on the baseball and semi-know where it's going [than] have no grip and get somebody hurt.

"As hard as [Pineda] was throwing early, ain't no one want to get hit, especially around the head. I don't think any organization would want to do anything about it. Scuffing the ball is one thing, if you're actually creating more control over where you want to throw it, giving you any type of edge. But as long as I've been around, I haven't seen sticky substance give anyone an edge."

- Clay Buchholz

If Bucholz had no problem with it, nobody here should either.
 

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Merlot is on the warpath so I will move on and not talk about the non issue anymore, I will do my part to try to prevent Merlot's ridiculously long replies, it's actually hard on the eyes, like Iggy says, game two tonight or as the Red Sox players would say.:help:
 

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Baseball Fans,

Anyone calling this wet glistening black mass dirt based on the photo is a fanboy sellout. If it is sweat why is that black spot the only apparently sweating area on his hand or entire arm. :rolleyes:

041114pineda.jpg



Merlot

It looks like he had a Chocolate Fudge Sundae in between innings to me. No pine tar.

You need an eye examination, Merlot.
 
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