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Seattle win today with its great defense ! Rodgers gona have to run a lot today! +8 for seahawk
Colts ! Will be the greatest upset ! Pats are not making a comeback like last week ! +3 for colts !
 

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Seattle win today with its great defense !

http://heavy.com/sports/2015/01/pac...ship-game-seahawks-recovered-video-highlight/

What a CHOKE. No way the Seahawks should have won this game. Brandon Bostick's failure to catch the on side kick, which went right through his hands and hit him in the face, cost Green Bay a Super Bowl appearance. Green Bay played 3 1/2 quarters of better football then collapsed. But the Bostick Super Goof...DOH...gave the game away.

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Got that one wrong and yes the mighty packers played an perfect 3 1/2game ! And then came Bostik giving the game to the seahawk

Oh the seahawk defense was not a factor in this game but luck !
Soooooo Seahawk will win next game ?!? For Russell Williams I wish !
 
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The biggest come back in a championship game, Seahawks are going back to the super bowl, what a bizarre game. Tough game, and huge plays by Seattle. You need to be lucky sometimes. I Am happy with the result. Go Seahawks!
 

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Brady had a very poor 2nd quarter, in the 3rd he's 8 of 8 with two TDs. It's currently 31 to 7 Patriots and Luck is 7 of 21 for the game. I like Luck a lot. If the Colts make the Super Bowl in the future I'll cheer for them as they were my team as a very young kid, just as I cheered for them in recently with Peyton. But Luck doesn't have the team this year AND he's got some learning to do. Biggest difference though is, the Colts can't run and they can't stop the other teams from running.

I think this game is proof of how much Peyton was hurting. No way these Colts beat a healthy P. Manning.

As I'm writing Rivas intercepts. TOUCHDOWN!!! I was going say this one isn't over yet...NOW...IT'S OVER. PATRIOTS 38 Colts 7 at this time. The coming Super Bowl will make 6 appearances for Brady. That's a new record, 1 more than John Elway.

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NFL investigating Patriots for tampering footballs in game against Colts

The NFL is investigating whether the New England Patriots intentionally deflated footballs during their victory over the Indianapolis Colts in Sunday's rain-soaked AFC Championship Game.

Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, however, laughed when asked about the report.

"I think I've heard it all at this point ... it's ridiculous," Brady said Monday morning during his weekly interview with Boston radio station WEEI. "I don't even respond to stuff like this."

An underinflated football could be easier to grip and catch. NFL rules stipulate that footballs must be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

Former NFL official Jim Daopoulos, in an interview with ESPN on Monday morning, explained the process in which footballs are managed. Two hours and 15 minutes before each game, officials inspect 12 footballs from each team and put a mark on them to indicate they meet the proper requirements and are good for usage. Then those footballs are given to the ball attendant.

There also is a second set of six footballs, used specifically for the kicking game, that are marked appropriately and remain in the possession of officials at all times.

"Officials check balls as they go into the game, and if the ball doesn't feel perfect, they can throw it out," Daopoulos said. "There is always the possibility that balls can lose air due to the conditions."

A team can be fined if it is found to be knowingly altering the weight of the football.

The NFL's game operations manual states: "Once the balls have left the locker room, no one, including players, equipment managers, ball boys, and coaches, is allowed to alter the footballs in any way. If any individual alters the footballs, or if a non-approved ball is used in the game, the person responsible and, if appropriate, the head coach or other club personnel will be subject to discipline, including but not limited to, a fine of $25,000."

Heavy rain began falling at Gillette Stadium in the second half of Sunday's game. New England owned a 10-point lead at halftime before pulling away in the second half, scoring three third-quarter touchdowns en route to a 45-7 victory over the Colts.


NFL investigating if Pats deflated footballs

Why am I not surprised? The Patriots have constantly broken rules of etiquette ever since Bill "The Cheater" Belichick joined them. And of course, the NFL will clear them of any wrong-doing once their amateurish investigation is completed. :rolleyes:
 

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what's a Super Bowl without a nice conspiracy to feed the trolls. So the NFL is weighing footballs of last night's game for lightness (deflation). :lol: That explains the complete destruction of the Colts. :crazy:

Patriots V Seahawks. Defense v Offense. Allegedly. Except the Patriots have a pretty darn good defense too. This should measure up much like the Ravens game except Russell Wilson is not the Joe Flacco who gets hots in the playoffs. If the Patriots could run against the Seahawks anywhere near as good as they could against the Colts I'd feel fairly comfortable about the coming game. But the Seahawks can defend against the run, and run too. Their problem is when Wilson faces a tough cover defense he's often in trouble. It all matches up with a betting line that has turned into a PICK-EM decision.

The Patriots start slow. If they get off to a solid start........

...there is no way the Seahawks should have won that game...total fluke the way they pulled it out...

Yeah, it was a ridiculous ending. It was like having a 5, 8, 9, nothing, then drawing two cards to a straight flush.

Why am I not surprised? The Patriots have constantly broken rules of etiquette ever since Bill "The Cheater" Belichick joined them. And of course, the NFL will clear them of any wrong-doing once their amateurish investigation is completed. :rolleyes:

Speaking of "feed the trolls", enter the bitter no sports title fan hater. You can't stand the thought of them being innocent. The NFL didn't clear them the last time they won't now IF it's true. More haters to follow.....

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Both teAms provide the their own balls that they use on offense. Referee provides balls for kicking game. Referee inspects and quarantines balls 2 hours before game time.

Did anyone actually watch the game? The Patriots could have won that game throwing a medicine ball.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/19/league-confirms-ball-deflation-investigation/

Via Bob Glauber of Newsday, the NFL has confirmed the existence of an investigation regarding whether the balls were properly inflated in the AFC title game.

Rule 2 of the official NFL rule book requires that each team make “12 primary balls available for testing” two hours and 15 minutes before kickoff. The home team must make 12 backup balls available, and the visiting team may bring another 12 backup balls for games to be played outdoors.

Several years ago, in an effort to prevent any doctoring of balls used in the kicking game, the NFL adopted a rule that six new, specially-marked kicking balls would be used for each game, with the boxes opened by the officials two hours and 15 minutes before kickoff.

All balls remain under the supervision of the referee until they are delivered to the ball attendant shortly before kickoiff.

The existence of the investigation, as initially reported by Bob Kravitz of WTHR-TV in Indianapolis, suggests that the referee failed to properly check the specifications of the balls, the referee didn’t properly secure the balls before they were given to the ball attendant, or something happened to the balls after they were given to the ball attendant.


JSN, you're correct according to the information. According to the rules the refs are responsible for checking the balls and keeping them under control. Of course the troll haters are going to point fingers at the Patriots. That's automatic, as automatic as Cowpie and Bills fans needing any satisfaction to sooth their own failures and/or bitter near misses. Funny though how they will ignore the refs mandated responsibility, the same group that blew for Detroit, and made the call that ruined Dallas.

This has all been brought out by an Indianapolis radio host whose dreams of Super Bowl glory got more DEFLATED than any million foot balls. Can't blame them much though. Humiliation hurts.

Anyone who saw the game knows the Colts just downright sucked. The Patriots could have won easily if a truck had run over all of the balls.

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My personal conspiracy theory

Football players are required to spend hours watching films.

Given the Packers total and comical collapse in the waning minutes of a game which decided if they would advance in the playoffs, is it possible that Seattle, in an effort to influence their opponent subliminally, bribed the manager of the film room to interpose frames of the last 10 minutes of the deciding game of the only playoff series the Leafs (dis)graced in the last 10 years?
 

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Amid all the conspiracy nonsense and jealousy some MEN...REAL MEN...deal with the pure simple fact of reality.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sport...-players-thank-fans-on-social-media/21999927/

Josh Cribbs, Colts wide receiver to Colts Nation: "Sorry to all Colts fans for sucking smh"...now there's a man. The other kind is reaching for excuses or running for therapy.

The INDY media are also showing some manhood without excuses:

http://www.indystar.com/story/sport...triots-afc-championship-gregg-doyel/21981365/

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Just so you know, No. 71 is now reporting eligible for the New England Patriots. This matters. This means something. If you don't know why it matters or what it means, either you don't understand football …

Or you coach the Indianapolis Colts.

Also, it should be pointed out that the Patriots will defend the Colts' only serious downfield threat, T.Y. Hilton, with their third-best cornerback and a safety behind him. This matters. This means something. If you don't why it matters or what it means – or how to take advantage of it – then you definitely don't understand football …

Or you definitely coach the Colts.

The Patriots beat the Colts 45-7 Sunday night in the AFC Championship Game and didn't have the decency to change their game plan from November.

Remember that game? The Colts apparently don't.

New England came to Lucas Oil Stadium two months ago and won 42-20 by doing the exact same stuff they did Sunday night at Gillette Stadium. That is not an exaggeration. That is a fact.

Which makes this game an absolute embarrassment.


Hey, I heard a big juicy rumor the Patriots cheated, YEAH, they put in the GREAT TOM BRADY at quarterback. :lol: :eyebrows: :nod: :thumb: :amen: :cool:

The ironic part is reports say Andrew Luck may soon become the highest paid player in the game. Only in sports can you get beat like a little girl and still get a king's ransom.

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NFL started to wonder if Pats were cheating (again) after Colts INT

An interception by Indianapolis Colts linebacker D'Qwell Jackson during Sunday's AFC Championship Game is what initially led to an NFL investigation into whether the New England Patriots intentionally deflated footballs during their rain-soaked victory, Newsday is reporting.

The newspaper, citing a person familiar with background of the matter, reported that Jackson, following his second-quarter interception, gave the ball to a member of the Colts' equipment staff, who noticed it was not fully inflated and informed Indianapolis coach Chuck Pagano.

According to the Newsday report, as well as WCVB-TV in Boston, Colts general manager Ryan Grigson was alerted about the ball in the Gillette Stadium press box. Grigson contacted NFL director of football operations Mike Kensil, who then told game officials during halftime.

New England, up 17-7 at that point, went on to win 45-7. The Pats scored three third-quarter touchdowns as heavy rain soaked Gillette.

On Monday, a league spokesman confirmed to ESPN that the NFL is investigating the matter.

Asked by ESPN.com on Tuesday morning if he has heard from the NFL, Patriots coach Bill Belichick said, "Any questions on that, you should talk to them about."

On Monday, Pagano said he did not notice issues with the football, and he didn't specify when asked whether the Colts had reported the issue to officials.

"We talk just like they talk to officials [before the game], we have an opportunity to talk to the officials about a lot of things, things that you've seen on tape like the formations we talked about last week," Pagano said. "Every coach in the league gets an opportunity to visit with the officials about that kind of stuff before the game."

An underinflated football could be easier to grip and catch. NFL rules stipulate that footballs must be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

Former NFL official Jim Daopoulos, in an interview with ESPN on Monday morning, explained the process in which footballs are managed. Two hours and 15 minutes before each game, officials inspect 12 footballs from each team and put a mark on them to indicate they meet the proper requirements and are good for usage. Then those footballs are given to the ball attendant.

There also is a second set of six footballs, used specifically for the kicking game, that are marked appropriately and remain in the possession of officials at all times.

"Officials check balls as they go into the game, and if the ball doesn't feel perfect, they can throw it out," Daopoulos said. "There is always the possibility that balls can lose air due to the conditions."

A team can be fined if it is found to be knowingly altering the weight of the football.


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Did anyone actually watch the game? The Patriots could have won that game throwing a medicine ball.

Very likely true. However, it's still no excuse for cheating. And this is a team that has been repeatedly suspected of & was caught cheating. Over & over.
 

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VICTIMS OF SUCCESS

More on the Patriots cheating scandal:

http://deadspin.com/aaron-rodgers-likes-to-tamper-with-footballs-too-1680676328

I predict Doc will not be covering the Seahwaks steroids abuse scandal or the illegally overinflated footballs Aaron Rodgers personally prepares before every game. Yep, Phil Simms and Jim Nantz of CBS interviewed the great Packer himself, Rodgers admitted to them that he likes to over-inflate game balls. "I like to push the limits of how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do".

In other news the NFL is investigating reports that:

1. Bill Belichick shot Kennedy.

2. Tom Brady piloted one of the 911 suicide planes.

3. Bob Kraft is an illegal alien...from Neptune.

4. Rob Gronkowski is the result of a mad experiment crossing the cells of Mia Hamm and a prize bull.

5. Doc Holliday is in full whining mode since the latest 48th running of the annual Maple Leafs CRASH!!!

WHICH OF THESE IS MORE LIKELY???

Deflate-gate: Will the air go out of a phony scandal?


http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/19/opinion/downey-football-deflate-investigation/index.html

(CNN)"Did Patriots Tamper with AFC Championship Ball?" — Monday's top headline on the Indianapolis Star's website

"Don't both teams have to play with the football?" a Facebook friend of mine promptly inquired in a post, mystified as to how the New England Patriots could come under investigation by the National Football League for "deflating" any of the balls used in Sunday's conference championship game versus the Indianapolis Colts.
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A fair question about an unfair tactic, to be sure.

OK, under further review, let us take a look at this weird, wild, farcical, you-gotta-be-kidding-me "controversy" that has, uh, blown up unexpectedly. It became the talk of talk radio Monday. and you could picture every staff writer employed by Letterman, Fallon, Kimmel and others tapping furiously on their laptops, coming up with joke after joke.

It was confirmed by an NFL official that the league was looking into the pretty preposterous possibility that balls used in New England's easy 45-7 victory at Gillette Stadium were not adequately inflated.

Yep, people actually now wonder whether you can get an extra edge from Gillette.

Patriots superstar quarterback Tom Brady had the question put to him Monday on a radio interview and called it ridiculous, saying, "I think I've heard it all."

The idea, cockeyed as it is, would be that a football would be considerably easier to catch and grip if it were filled with slightly less air than usual. Particularly in wet, chilly weather like that found on a January evening in Massachusetts.

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To the aforementioned question as to the teams using exactly the same ball -- i.e., so where's the advantage? -- each NFL team, according to Rule 2, Section 2 of league bylaws, will "make 12 primary balls available for testing by the referee 2 hours and 15 minutes prior to the starting time of the game." The home team "will also make 12 backup balls available for testing." Eight other balls, sealed in a box by the manufacturer, are marked by the referee and "used exclusively for the kicking game."

I don't know if an actual scale is used, like a jockey or a boxer making weight, but a football is supposed to weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

If there are weight-loss programs for overweight footballs, this would be the first I have heard of it. "The Biggest Loser" show on NBC could get a whole season out of something like this.

Naturally, conspiracy theorists could speculate that the Patriots somehow finagled a way into using a deflated ball themselves, giving Mr. Brady a little help, while making sure that the visiting team's quarterback, Andrew Luck of the Colts, had to pass a football that was more tightly inflated than a Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade balloon.

I have never heard of this accusation being made in all the years I have been following professional football. I mean, come on: "Honey, You Didn't Blow Up the Balls?"

How devious could a team be?

However, I did indeed have awareness of a similar situation occurring in college football, as recently as 2012. It involved the University of Southern California, a splendid school, my own daughter's alma mater.

USC was fined $25,000 by its conference for being caught doing exactly that -- messing with the air in the football.

A student manager was responsible. The university said he did it on his own, apparently without the knowledge of a single other human being in then-Coach Lane Kiffin's football program, deflating no fewer than five footballs to be used in a USC game against Oregon. Three bad balls were discovered by officials before the game, two more at halftime. The kid was later fired, the university was fined and reprimanded by the Pac-12 Conference and, much the way Tom Brady put it Monday, a lot of us ended up saying: "I've heard it all now."

Turned out (it was news to me at the time) that in college football, schools provide their own footballs, whereas in pro football, the exact same 18 balls are used by both teams. Who knew?

It is difficult not to laugh at the thought of Bill Belichick, the generally humorless head coach of the Patriots, masterminding some kind of sinister Dr. Evil plot to deflate a certain number of those footballs, then having a co-conspirator somehow sneak the soft balls into the game when New England it was on offense, then the harder balls into the game when Indy had it. "Ha ha ha!" the villainous Belichick would laugh to himself. "I outsmarted them again!"

Except what are the odds of something like this actually happening?

I appreciate that the Patriots have been so successful over the years that they have been accused of everything short of spying on their opponents from the Hubble Telescope. I personally believe the Patriots win most of their games because they score more points than the other team does.

They will be going to another Super Bowl this year, the one coming up February 1 in Glendale, Arizona, because the Pats know how to play football, not how to blow one up.

Even so, their opponents, the Seattle Seahawks, had better come prepared. I suggest they bring a scale.


One thing for sure, this episode gives the desperate for anything new conspiracy kooks and perennial losing team fans, something different to sooth their...I need a something to live for WAAAAAAA...souls. Hell, nothing breeds hate like continuous success YOU haven't been able to even sniff. Right Doc. :D For the media, damn, is this profitable. With only two teams left so many fans across the country need excuses and this sure answers their prayers.

In New England WE LOVE IT because it's name is MOTIVATION...MOTIVATION...MOTIVATION. God answers our prayers too. MERCI BEAUCOUP A TOUS!!! :thumb: :cool:

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And where is the outrage about Aaron Rogers admitting to cbs that he likes to over inflate the football? He says he likes them bigger and tighter and if the refs catch it they can take air out?

It's an operational rule not a football rule. What a bunch of whiners.

It's a simple fact that all quarterbacks check balls to see which they prefer by doing various legal things to test them. You can see kickers scuffing balls and doing other things that suit their comfort zone. What has not been pointed out is that between every single play the referees handle the ball and place them where they think the player went down. As I reported previously the refs are also responsible for the balls right up to playing time. So why aren't they derelict on their duties in this case.

On the other hand Aaron Rodgers admits to altering the ball beyond game rules. That's concrete as hell...but you wont see outrage about that.

I heard Brady"s reaction to being questioned about the issue on WEEI. He couldn't help having a nice long spontaneous chordal over it. Yup, it's a joke. :lol:

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Eleven of 12 footballs Patriots used were deflated in AFC championship win over Colts: report

Bill Belichick's team again caught up in cheating allegations, this time over underinflated footballs used in the AFC title game, which his Patriots won to make thier sixth Super Bowl under his regime.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...patriots-footballs-deflated-article-1.2086269

This time the New England Patriots should be forced to forfeit their win and trip to the Super Bowl in addition to the draft picks the NFL takes away for cheating in championship games.

The shit always stinks in the Boston area. I wonder why?
 

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This time the New England Patriots should be forced to forfeit their win and trip to the Super Bowl...

NOT going to happen. ESPN is reporting right now that the NFL is checking who is responsible since the referees are mandated to inspect all the balls before the game. The NFL would also want to know how any under-inflated balls stay in a game since the refs are handling them each play.

ESPN just played a recording with Aaron Rodgers saying there should not be any rule against having an over-inflated football. So one side of breaking the rule is okay and the other isn't??? This is Aaron setting up excuses for stating previously he had personally altered the balls outside the rule boundaries.

I imagine this is having an interesting effect on the Patriots. They must be thinking...wait until the game, the NFL will make sure all the balls are checked to the max and New England will shove the game results right down the throats of all doubters. MOTIVATION!!!

BTW: the Patriots scored 21 unanswered points in the 3rd quarter in pouring rain AFTER the issue had been corrected.

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Even though I do not think the Patriots would have lost, this will cement the Patriots as cheaters forever :nono:

Lance Armstrong, Barry Bonds, Patriots

The Patriot management has to be attributable for all their personnel..just as any corporation is


Whoever the " Billy Martin " was that detected the infraction should be given a bonus..

When Billy used that " ace in the hole " move against George Brett, he was hailed as a genius

How will this Billy be viewed ?

PS- I couldnt care less about football


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Even though I do not think the Patriots would have lost, this will cement the Patriots as cheaters forever :nono:

Even hall-of-famer coach Don Chula routinely refers to Belichick as Bill Beli-cheat. I doubt there's any former great head coach who has more respect & integrity than Don Chula.

Word is currently spreading that were Belichick be found to have ordered the tampering of the footballs, that among the penalties may include a ban from the Superbowl for Belichick.

It also seems that every week there is something fishy around the Patriots camp. It appears that the paranoid Belichick, possibly also an OCD sufferer, will try anything...legal or not...in order to tip the scales in favor of his team. His obsession of winning-at-all-cost may very well taint his legacy forever. Not much different than the likes of Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire and Roger Clemens, among many others.

Personally, i have no doubt at Belichick & the Patriots' guilt. 11 out of 12 footballs?? Really?? Plus the fact it only took seconds for the Colts player to realize that the ball was obviously under-inflated. A difference of 2 psi may not seem like much of a difference in a car tire, but in a football, it's a huge difference & there's no way not to notice it.

Now we're left wondering when exactly did the Patriots start routinely deflating their footballs. I'm 100% that if they are indeed guilty of this, that the recent game wasn't the only time they've done it.

p.s. I feel sorry for owner Robert Kraft, whom i consider to be a true gentleman & one of the league's top owners. As for Belichick & Brady, i wouldn't blink an eye if i'd learn that a bus ran them over. Cheaters!
 
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