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More on this dishonest, guilty player.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/n...lated-footballs-investigation-finds-1.3063592
Here is a poll with overwhelming support for a one year ban.
http://lockerdome.com/7246243202209601/7652010807795736
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/n...lated-footballs-investigation-finds-1.3063592
Here is a poll with overwhelming support for a one year ban.
http://lockerdome.com/7246243202209601/7652010807795736
BOYZZZ!
Doc says he condemns cheaters, all cheaters, yet Toronto's two World Series are depended a lot on Clemens. Hypocritical. How did miss that? Why so unglued over it?
Another unglued total cop-out. You haven't stopped using the word cheater, but when it's someone you like suddenly cheating becomes..."ill-conceived". Your failure to stand by your principles reeks.
Pineda was also caught red-handed on video while they don;t have any such thing on Brady. A huge difference you copped out on.
There was never a "debate". You couldn't qualify.
I smell so much money if you'd man-up to your prediction of 1 year off for Brady. If only the mods would let us bet. You are going to be embarrassingly off on this. GUARANTEED!
Goodell, who should be suspended for only being interested in profits while failing to get the NFL house in order in 100o different ways, is in a dilemma. He doesn't want to suspend Brady because Goodell's profit motive one track thinking tells him even playing a quarterback under fire give his league far more money than suspending him. But after spending $5 million and allowing the hate to gain traction he stuck having to do something that has the appearance of discipline. The smart money is on less 4 games or less, probably two. On appeal Brady and his lawyer will surely cite how the Chargers and Vikings were not even given a slap (just knock it off) for trying to manipulate the ball during games. Bet in the end it could be as little as 1 game.
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Uhhh, where's the option for, "According to the Wells report, they can't even prove with certainty that the balls were even tampered with; as such, they should apologise for being asshats and leave the man alone..."
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suspended one game per deflated football if proven beyond a doubt he is guilty
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Considering the inquiry couldn't come up with anything more than 'probably' or 'may have known' then I'd say the NFL is in tight trying to make any suspension stick. Without any proof and without a more damning statement, any suspension would likely be appealed and won. Fine the Patriots organization and take a pick away. Realistically, that's probably all t...Read more
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Let's go back and take the title's away from them. It's much easier to throw a deflated football and to get a handle on it. The pacers were cheated out by officials. If this were the Colts and we had beat them what would Brady have to say. We'
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They r making this bigger then it really is cause it's Brady if this was anyone else this would b just a bit of back page news and b forgotten by now
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Joe, what the hell are you looking at. The first 3 of 5 posts from your link think you're nuts. One says "if proven".
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Merlot
Doc says he condemns cheaters, all cheaters, yet Toronto's two World Series are depended a lot on Clemens. Hypocritical. How did miss that? Why so unglued over it?
Another unglued total cop-out. You haven't stopped using the word cheater, but when it's someone you like suddenly cheating becomes..."ill-conceived". Your failure to stand by your principles reeks.
Pineda was also caught red-handed on video while they don;t have any such thing on Brady. A huge difference you copped out on.
There was never a "debate". You couldn't qualify.
I smell so much money if you'd man-up to your prediction of 1 year off for Brady. If only the mods would let us bet. You are going to be embarrassingly off on this. GUARANTEED!
Goodell, who should be suspended for only being interested in profits while failing to get the NFL house in order in 100o different ways, is in a dilemma. He doesn't want to suspend Brady because Goodell's profit motive one track thinking tells him even playing a quarterback under fire give his league far more money than suspending him. But after spending $5 million and allowing the hate to gain traction he stuck having to do something that has the appearance of discipline. The smart money is on less 4 games or less, probably two. On appeal Brady and his lawyer will surely cite how the Chargers and Vikings were not even given a slap (just knock it off) for trying to manipulate the ball during games. Bet in the end it could be as little as 1 game.
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Uhhh, where's the option for, "According to the Wells report, they can't even prove with certainty that the balls were even tampered with; as such, they should apologise for being asshats and leave the man alone..."
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suspended one game per deflated football if proven beyond a doubt he is guilty
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Considering the inquiry couldn't come up with anything more than 'probably' or 'may have known' then I'd say the NFL is in tight trying to make any suspension stick. Without any proof and without a more damning statement, any suspension would likely be appealed and won. Fine the Patriots organization and take a pick away. Realistically, that's probably all t...Read more
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Let's go back and take the title's away from them. It's much easier to throw a deflated football and to get a handle on it. The pacers were cheated out by officials. If this were the Colts and we had beat them what would Brady have to say. We'
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They r making this bigger then it really is cause it's Brady if this was anyone else this would b just a bit of back page news and b forgotten by now
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Joe, what the hell are you looking at. The first 3 of 5 posts from your link think you're nuts. One says "if proven".
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Merlot
Really, Merlot. Roger Clemens had a lot to do with Toronto's 2 World Series wins in 1992 and 1993 when Roger Clemens was pitching for the Red Sox?
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/history/postseason/mlb_ws.jsp?feature=club_champs
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/clemero02.shtml
For your information, Merlot, Clemens joined the Blue Jays in 1997 and 1998.
Maybe, you're right. Clemens had a 18-11 record and a 2.41 ERA for BOSTON in 1992 and a 10-13 record and a 4.46 ERA in 1993 as he was a RED SOX player then also. Maybe he pitched some real loser games that the Blue Jays capitalized on in 1993? Billy Buckner style?
Boyzzzz,
How would like to wager HOW MUCH DID MERLOT HAVE TO DRINK TONIGHT? in Pints of the Hard Stuff.
I bet it's a lot more than 1.
Cheers Merlot. :help:
Yup, fucked up on that one. He won 2 Cy Youngs not the Series.
I knew you'd dodge the idea. You're going to be almost as far off as Joe.t's guarantees.
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Merlot
Yup, fucked up on that one. He won 2 Cy Youngs not the Series.
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Merlot
You sure did fuck up, Merlot. And you have no credibility left.
1 year suspension for Old Man Brady.
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BOYZZZ!
Whatever happens with this judgment I know part of it is going to keep in mind the certainty of an appeal. The sentence such as it is will have a lot to do with placating the haters, while knowing the judgment is very unlikely to be upheld by half at least.
Deflategate: Why Brady may not be punished
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=brady
Brady's probable general awareness and approval of "inappropriate activities" is not equivalent to Brady's direct participation in the specific scheme that was the subject of the report. There is no finding that Brady broke the rules, ordered that the rules be broken, helped to plan the bizarrely executed deed, or rewarded the rules violation after the fact.
Where is the basis for punishment in all of that? How does that merit an asterisk on this quarterback for this game, this championship, this career?
It must be added that that Brady gained no evident competitive advantage from the use of the deflated balls in the Patriots' 45-7 win over the Colts. In footnote 73 of the report, the investigators note they were not asked to investigate or evaluate the competitive impact of the deflated balls. They nevertheless add that, in the first half, when the balls were under-inflated, Brady completed barely half of his passes (11/21) for one touchdown. In the second half, when the balls were re-inflated, Brady completed over 85 percent of his passes (12/14) for two touchdowns.
In matters ethical, means and intent matter regardless of the consequences of an act. Knute Rockne: "Win or lose, do it fairly." The cheater is subject to censure even if his methods do not have the intended effect. But the report does not support a conclusion that Brady was in on the means or shared the intent to break the rules the day of the AFC Championship game.
I am no card-carrying member of Patriots nation — quite the opposite. I wanted Seattle to beat New England in the Super Bowl. I am a native New Yorker who is old enough to have happy early childhood memories of Joe Namath's fulfilled promise of a Jets victory in Super Bowl III. And I still like the Jets, though my allegiance is now shared with the San Diego Chargers.
This is a matter of allegiance to the principle of fairness, not allegiance to a particular team or player. This goes beyond one quarterback, one game, even one sport. It is unfair to punish any athlete in any sport for his probable general awareness of a rules violation he did not commit, did not plan, did not reward, and that did not at the end of the day help him win. Let the guilty parties, but only the guilty parties, be punished. Tom Brady is not one of them.
No no, I was only looking for news of the penalty.
Cheers,
Merlot
Whatever happens with this judgment I know part of it is going to keep in mind the certainty of an appeal. The sentence such as it is will have a lot to do with placating the haters, while knowing the judgment is very unlikely to be upheld by half at least.
Deflategate: Why Brady may not be punished
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=brady
Brady's probable general awareness and approval of "inappropriate activities" is not equivalent to Brady's direct participation in the specific scheme that was the subject of the report. There is no finding that Brady broke the rules, ordered that the rules be broken, helped to plan the bizarrely executed deed, or rewarded the rules violation after the fact.
Where is the basis for punishment in all of that? How does that merit an asterisk on this quarterback for this game, this championship, this career?
It must be added that that Brady gained no evident competitive advantage from the use of the deflated balls in the Patriots' 45-7 win over the Colts. In footnote 73 of the report, the investigators note they were not asked to investigate or evaluate the competitive impact of the deflated balls. They nevertheless add that, in the first half, when the balls were under-inflated, Brady completed barely half of his passes (11/21) for one touchdown. In the second half, when the balls were re-inflated, Brady completed over 85 percent of his passes (12/14) for two touchdowns.
In matters ethical, means and intent matter regardless of the consequences of an act. Knute Rockne: "Win or lose, do it fairly." The cheater is subject to censure even if his methods do not have the intended effect. But the report does not support a conclusion that Brady was in on the means or shared the intent to break the rules the day of the AFC Championship game.
I am no card-carrying member of Patriots nation — quite the opposite. I wanted Seattle to beat New England in the Super Bowl. I am a native New Yorker who is old enough to have happy early childhood memories of Joe Namath's fulfilled promise of a Jets victory in Super Bowl III. And I still like the Jets, though my allegiance is now shared with the San Diego Chargers.
This is a matter of allegiance to the principle of fairness, not allegiance to a particular team or player. This goes beyond one quarterback, one game, even one sport. It is unfair to punish any athlete in any sport for his probable general awareness of a rules violation he did not commit, did not plan, did not reward, and that did not at the end of the day help him win. Let the guilty parties, but only the guilty parties, be punished. Tom Brady is not one of them.
No no, I was only looking for news of the penalty.
Cheers,
Merlot
Lemme guess, OJ is innocent because the glove didn't fit.
The overwhelming evidence points to Brady and he will be punished accordingly, as far as I'm concerned all Super Bowls won by Brady and Belicheat both convicted/fined/suspended cheats will have a big *.
Cheatin' Tom Brady suspended for first 4 games of next season; Pats lose 2016 1st-round pick, 2017 4th-round pick & fined $1mllion
The NFL has suspended New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady four games for his role in deflating footballs for the AFC Championship Game, the league said in a statement Monday.
The Patriots will also lose a first-round pick in 2016 and a fourth-round pick in 2017 and have been fined $1 million.
Here's the story:
Brady suspended 4 games
The NFL has suspended New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady four games for his role in deflating footballs for the AFC Championship Game, the league said in a statement Monday.
The Patriots will also lose a first-round pick in 2016 and a fourth-round pick in 2017 and have been fined $1 million.
Here's the story:
Brady suspended 4 games
Sad, sad, sad day in New England today, Brady will be branded a cheat and a liar for the rest of his career and New England's Super Bowls will have a huge ****.
Smuler- You are always a man of reason.:thumb:
Good luck with Jimmy Garoppolo Cheatriot fans.:nod:
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tom-brady-deflate-gate-162121409.html
Smuler- You are always a man of reason.:thumb:
Good luck with Jimmy Garoppolo Cheatriot fans.:nod:
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tom-brady-deflate-gate-162121409.html
Second, Giselle should leave him
....and undergo a sex change & hook up with Bruce Jenner.
Damn was I close or what? 4 months and loss of draft choices. NFL management has obviously been following my posts...LOL, just kidding. The best thing is that Brady will be back in time for Miami's brutal defensive line collapse that pocket on Brady 6 or 8 times. Can't wait to see Suh & Wake each take a piece of Brady.....LOL
P.S. Remember Vernon is in his option year. He'll really be gunning for Brady to get his cred up.
Lemme guess, OJ is innocent because the glove didn't fit.
The overwhelming evidence points to Brady and he will be punished accordingly, as far as I'm concerned all Super Bowls won by Brady and Belicheat both convicted/fined/suspended cheats will have a big *.
The football didn't fit so Brady had Mr. Jastremski fit it for him. That's what REALLY happened.
I really would prefer not to pass judgement until I hear Merlot's opinion on the subject.
I really would prefer not to pass judgement until I hear Merlot's opinion on the subject.
Do you have a week for casual reading?
That's not true. Each team uses their own footballs. Each team inflates their own footballs before the game. And it is checked by the officials.
As for your claim that Luck threw for more yards and passes than Brady is way false. Are you referring to the 45-7 win of New England over Indianapolis? Brady was 23/35 for 226 yards, 3 TD's and 1 interception. Luck threw for 100 less yards at 12/33 for 126 yards, 0 TD's and 2 interceptions. Look at the link.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=20150118017
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