I know that as a non-smoker, I will definitely go to strip clubs more often once the smoking ban comes into effect. Any predictions on how the scene will change?
Any Predictions For Strip Clubs After Smoking Ban?
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I dont see why it would have an effect. I don't smoke either, but if I did smoke, I wouldn't go to a strip club in order TO smoke.
positive for the clients less smoke on clothes nicer atmosphere but sucks ass for the girls if they smoke. I am thinking that many girls going to be hiding more in the bathroom changing room any place the boss will let them smoke and that means hard times for a while until everyone is use to it then normal again.
oliver kloseoff said:
Ollie,
I thought I was radical when it came to smokers, but you are even more so than I am. My clothes smelling of smoke is a pain, but not as much as my coughing up smoke the next day (yes, that's what it feels like), so I have to limit my time at Cleo's). I'm looking forward to June 1st.
I was talking to a girl at Cleo's who has asthma and uses a puffer...but she still smokes. I got away with telling her she was a fool as we get on great.
Hello !
a little light reading about the Smoking Ban - Bill 112
(sorry if this varies off Topic) ......
Bar, restaurant owners vow to fight patio smoking ban
Tough Ontario rules become law May 31
Dave Rogers, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Friday, March 03, 2006
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/city/story.html?id=9173c083-ee68-4c22-8a29-e0b755695a6f
Canada Quebec smoking ban challenged
Posted on Sunday, April 02 @ 10:38:20
http://www.smokersclubinc.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2994
End of a smokey era
ARCHIVES: Apr 13-19.2006
Most bar owners seem at ease as the tobacco ban hits Montreal’s nightlife
Sitting on a stool at a small bar on St-Laurent and Duluth, the owner looks around and starts counting.
http://www.montrealmirror.com/2006/041306/cover_news.html
a little light reading about the Smoking Ban - Bill 112
(sorry if this varies off Topic) ......
Bar, restaurant owners vow to fight patio smoking ban
Tough Ontario rules become law May 31
Dave Rogers, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Friday, March 03, 2006
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/city/story.html?id=9173c083-ee68-4c22-8a29-e0b755695a6f
Canada Quebec smoking ban challenged
Posted on Sunday, April 02 @ 10:38:20
http://www.smokersclubinc.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2994
End of a smokey era
ARCHIVES: Apr 13-19.2006
Most bar owners seem at ease as the tobacco ban hits Montreal’s nightlife
Sitting on a stool at a small bar on St-Laurent and Duluth, the owner looks around and starts counting.
http://www.montrealmirror.com/2006/041306/cover_news.html
I fully agree with Oliver. I never heard it that way before, but it makes total sense. I have thought that if I spit(dirty, rude, disrespectful) on a smoker giving off second hand smoke(dirty,rude, disrespectful, & causes cancer and other health issue) it would be justified.
It is really a no brainer to at least ban smoking in public establishments. This is not something you look back at 10 years down the road and go "oh yeah, that was not bright to subject people to second hand smoke back then". This is common knowledge now. So what took so long?
My other beliefs on smoking:
A non-smoker should pay less than a smoker for health insurance.
Smoking should be banned altogether.
- If you are worried about where else to tax, how about twinkies (fat tax) and alcohol( I drink, but not a bunch).
If smoking is not banned, it should be on a smoker to find a place out of range from non-smokers to smoke.
Smokers are similar to crack heads in a way: addicted and slowly killing themselves. Smokers are a little more functional in society.
I am slightly opinionated on the subject, probably because like many others have seen smoking kill family members.
MM
It is really a no brainer to at least ban smoking in public establishments. This is not something you look back at 10 years down the road and go "oh yeah, that was not bright to subject people to second hand smoke back then". This is common knowledge now. So what took so long?
My other beliefs on smoking:
A non-smoker should pay less than a smoker for health insurance.
Smoking should be banned altogether.
- If you are worried about where else to tax, how about twinkies (fat tax) and alcohol( I drink, but not a bunch).
If smoking is not banned, it should be on a smoker to find a place out of range from non-smokers to smoke.
Smokers are similar to crack heads in a way: addicted and slowly killing themselves. Smokers are a little more functional in society.
I am slightly opinionated on the subject, probably because like many others have seen smoking kill family members.
MM
smoking ban..
I totally agree wiuth this law even though I smoke some times. Most people have the habit to smoke when the drink beer in Bar.. this will probably help them to smoke less and get rid of the habit. And when i come home from cleo i dont have to put all my cloths in the laundry basket becuase they smell like an ashtray .When is this law effective? since it was posponed ?
I totally agree wiuth this law even though I smoke some times. Most people have the habit to smoke when the drink beer in Bar.. this will probably help them to smoke less and get rid of the habit. And when i come home from cleo i dont have to put all my cloths in the laundry basket becuase they smell like an ashtray .When is this law effective? since it was posponed ?
I really love all the holier than thou non-smokers. I smoke, I consume a legally available product that is extremely taxed. Smokers pay more money into the system than they will ever cost the health system in expenses. If the gov't had any real desire to solve the health problems they would ban cigarettes all together. But they are too addicted to the extra cash flow. In the same way that they are addicted to the income from gambling. We have a gov't that preaches against both but is only too happy to rake in the profits. You don't hear me bitching about all the obesely overweight people who sit down to a lunch of 4 big macs and a jumbo frites at McDo's. Or those who routinely put all their money into vlt's and end up at the food banks so that they can eat. Or those who drive huge SUV's that spew more polution into the atmosphere in a day than a smoker will in his lifetime.
I have no problem with banning smoking in restaurants. In fact I usually sit in the non-smoking section. But bars are a different thing. At least when I smoke I can't smell the hideous body odor of the drunk at the next table. Or their over applied cologne or perfume.
As far as the original question is concerned...I will pretty much stop frequenting bars of any kind unless they have an outside terasse where I can consume my legally purchased product along with my other legally purchased product, alcohol. The way things are going bars won't be able to serve booze because someone may drive drunk and kill someone.
Oh, if any non-smoker would ever decide to spit on me or do anything else for that matter, he would find himself in urgent need of our wonderful health care system. Paid for by smokers' tax money.
I have no problem with banning smoking in restaurants. In fact I usually sit in the non-smoking section. But bars are a different thing. At least when I smoke I can't smell the hideous body odor of the drunk at the next table. Or their over applied cologne or perfume.
As far as the original question is concerned...I will pretty much stop frequenting bars of any kind unless they have an outside terasse where I can consume my legally purchased product along with my other legally purchased product, alcohol. The way things are going bars won't be able to serve booze because someone may drive drunk and kill someone.
Oh, if any non-smoker would ever decide to spit on me or do anything else for that matter, he would find himself in urgent need of our wonderful health care system. Paid for by smokers' tax money.
NO Smoking SCs a pleasure in Ottawa
Whenever I'm in Ottawa, I visit some of their strip clubs and it's such a pleasure to come out without any smoke (don't have to take a late shower before going to bed). I know that some of the girls still smoke - probably in the dressing room since I can still smell it on some of them. But the club area and the booths are smoke free. Looking forward to this situation in Quebec.
Whenever I'm in Ottawa, I visit some of their strip clubs and it's such a pleasure to come out without any smoke (don't have to take a late shower before going to bed). I know that some of the girls still smoke - probably in the dressing room since I can still smell it on some of them. But the club area and the booths are smoke free. Looking forward to this situation in Quebec.
It has already hurt the clubs, bars and coffee shops - no way would I get into the business.
Most don't have smoking rooms so now they'll all go up in smoke together when the full ban comes into effect. You won't see enough non smokers come out to replace the people that have already left, they're busy cycling and jogging in the traffic fumes.
Most don't have smoking rooms so now they'll all go up in smoke together when the full ban comes into effect. You won't see enough non smokers come out to replace the people that have already left, they're busy cycling and jogging in the traffic fumes.
Interesting variety of replies. I am a smoker so I guess I'll be going out less as of June.
Montreal Moose, just so you know, I DO pay more for health and life insurance. Alchoholics are more like crackheads than smokers though, barely functioning after a few "hits". They too are killing themselves and others as they drive home. And I'm afraid I don't know of anybody losing their job because of cigarettes.
Oliver, I certainly don't feel I have all the rights in the world when I have to go outside for a smoke in January. But that's just fine by me, since I work about an hour less per day than everybody else, for the same money.
I agree that most smokers are inconsiderate, and I am well aware of the risks to my health, as well as to others. That's why I try not to smoke around people who don't. When I go to a club I sit off somewhere by myself if possible, if not, I keep it to a minimum(yes I do think of others). I do however have rights too.
As for those people who think they are more Catholic than the Pope, feel free to piss up a rope and suck the wet end. That should take care of the evil smokey taste in your mouths.
Montreal Moose, just so you know, I DO pay more for health and life insurance. Alchoholics are more like crackheads than smokers though, barely functioning after a few "hits". They too are killing themselves and others as they drive home. And I'm afraid I don't know of anybody losing their job because of cigarettes.
Oliver, I certainly don't feel I have all the rights in the world when I have to go outside for a smoke in January. But that's just fine by me, since I work about an hour less per day than everybody else, for the same money.
I agree that most smokers are inconsiderate, and I am well aware of the risks to my health, as well as to others. That's why I try not to smoke around people who don't. When I go to a club I sit off somewhere by myself if possible, if not, I keep it to a minimum(yes I do think of others). I do however have rights too.
As for those people who think they are more Catholic than the Pope, feel free to piss up a rope and suck the wet end. That should take care of the evil smokey taste in your mouths.
My truly theorie on this one!
The truth about ban smoking in public places is it will cost less to gov. to put on that law instead of applying rules to make sure that the ventilation system work well. Above that, in a couple of years from now, the gov. will have subvention a part of the fee to assure that those same ventilation system get replaced or clean (witch I no there is no such good way than replace the docs) because the gov. will have prepared themself for that request from any kind of building owners. And it's not only because those ventilation system aren't working enougth. It also about the increasing of the moulds!
For the business, it has already been proof that it will only get better.
I just feel sorry for those people that will have to hide and freeze during winter to have a cigarette!
Now why do I say this! Because I have been in places before where the ventilation system was working full capacity and you could barly smell cigarette odore in the places because it was rigth away suck up by it!
Just my 2 cents!
The truth about ban smoking in public places is it will cost less to gov. to put on that law instead of applying rules to make sure that the ventilation system work well. Above that, in a couple of years from now, the gov. will have subvention a part of the fee to assure that those same ventilation system get replaced or clean (witch I no there is no such good way than replace the docs) because the gov. will have prepared themself for that request from any kind of building owners. And it's not only because those ventilation system aren't working enougth. It also about the increasing of the moulds!
For the business, it has already been proof that it will only get better.
I just feel sorry for those people that will have to hide and freeze during winter to have a cigarette!
Now why do I say this! Because I have been in places before where the ventilation system was working full capacity and you could barly smell cigarette odore in the places because it was rigth away suck up by it!
Just my 2 cents!
Patrons will start hanging off the poles, pandemonium everywhere ...
That's what will happen when you cut off the nicotine.
Cigarettes and beer are like Simon and Garfunkel, fries and ketchup, Clark Kent and Lois, etc..
These 2 items cannot be separated ...
That's what will happen when you cut off the nicotine.
Cigarettes and beer are like Simon and Garfunkel, fries and ketchup, Clark Kent and Lois, etc..
These 2 items cannot be separated ...
According to a bartender at Stogies on Crescent...
the ban will not effect them or other Cigar lounges which existed before 2005. This seems to be the metaphorical "bone" that has been thrown to smokers in Montreal, if you want to smoke at least you can go to a "Cigar" lounge. In my state you are "SOL and JWF" if you smoke.
the ban will not effect them or other Cigar lounges which existed before 2005. This seems to be the metaphorical "bone" that has been thrown to smokers in Montreal, if you want to smoke at least you can go to a "Cigar" lounge. In my state you are "SOL and JWF" if you smoke.
Business in Strip Clubs
The bars may or may not be affected by the new no smoking law but I would think that the strip clubs might not be as affected. After all, we go there primarily for the girls, no?
The bars may or may not be affected by the new no smoking law but I would think that the strip clubs might not be as affected. After all, we go there primarily for the girls, no?
Techman said:
Techman: my concern is purely for my own health; I was at Cleo's three days ago, but I can still feel it in my lungs (and regret the visit). I like the girls as much as you do, but why do I have to jeopardize my health ?
Considering the high cost of health care, I see smokers as subsidizing each other....while you may well be perfectly healthy, your tax money goes to pay for health care for a smoker who is dying of lung cancer (or a second-hand smoker who is dying). Of course I don't have detailed figures, but I find it hard to believe that a single person smoking can pay in taxes alone the costs of the health care required in case he gets sick.
In addition to the government being addicted to the money, the tobacco industry has a very powerful lobby group with close connections high up in government. Many years ago there was a lobbyist who was a close personal friend of the PM.
ExoticSpirit said:
Yes we do go there for the ladies and sometimes to have a couple of beer with friends. I don't go anywhere for the purpose of smoking. But I have no intention of having to leave a bar or sc to go outside for a smoke. I enjoy having a smoke when I drink, habit or no habit. This year I have already severely cut down on clubbing in preparation for the day when I will probably stop all together. It's amazing that you will be able to go to a FS strip club and get whatever sex you want without problems but won't be able to have a smoke after! If a bar wants to be non-smoking or smoking, I feel that they should have the right to choose. Bar owners cry and complain when it's suggested to remove the vlts that many claim to need to survive. Well many vlt players also chain smoke while playing. Do you want to bet that the gov't will allow vlt rooms to be sealed off and remain smoking areas? Can't lose that revenue now can we?
chefplus said:
I have no interest in damaging anyone else's health. I see no reason why bars and other clubs cannot be allowed to have an enclosed smoking area for smokers or a smoking section with adequate and proper ventilation. The new law even prohibits smoking in outdoor areas if they have an awning or other permanent covering.
Actually I seem to remember that due to the fact that smokers tend to die at an earlier age they cost the health system much less money than the average non-smoker who lives much longer requiring more health care.
The bottom line is money. The gov't spends it like they have an endless supply. Without the "sin taxes" on cigs, alcohol and the ultimate sin tax, gambling, we would all be paying 75% income tax. They don't give a damn about our health, physical or mental, as long as they are making a decent profit.
One thing I do predict is that there will be an increase in bar fights and arguments. Nicotine withdrawl can be as bad as 'roid rage. There's going to be a lot of people getting drunk who have a very short fuse.
majed, there's nothing in the law stopping a non-smoker from sitting in a smoking section on a terrasse. But I think there should be a requirement to have a smoker at the table to qualify sitting there. If smokers are going to be prohibited from smoking inside then terrasses should give preference to smokers. Of course non-smokers will say that this is unfair...tough. If we can't smoke inside at least we can check out the eye candy walking on the street in the summer.
If we can't smoke inside at least we can check out the eye candy walking on the street in the summer.So you can fuck all you want at off-island clubs as long as you don't light up. Good. We are making progress here people
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