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Cap'tain Fantastic

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Of course professional manipulators exist, not arguing that. What I am referring to is the ones that has developed manipulating patterns over traumas, and trust me they can do as much damage as the professional ones.
 
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Of course professional manipulators exist, not arguing that. What I am referring to is the ones that has developed manipulating patterns over traumas, and trust me they can do as much damage as the professional ones.
Definitely, that is true, but I'm talking about clients here. A lot of clients use manipulative tactics to try and get what they want, and they are often the same. I notice patterns. One very very common example is telling the SP that you want them to be your regular so that they give you a discount or better service or something extra. If you truly want a SP as your regular you aren't going to announce it, you're going to keep seeing them and that's it.
 

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Going to have to disagree with that. The manipulative people I've known are very aware of what they're doing, often more so than the person being manipulated.
I knew a guy at work that was great with the ladies. I heard him chatting with a woman and he brought up the fact that he had 3 sisters. He used that info as a way to portray himself as more understanding of their plights and woes.
When there were no women around, he told me that having 3 sisters allowed him to better take advantage of their weaknesses.

Or perhaps he was raised by 3 manipulative sisters? That can have a damaging effects as well. In his specific case, in a way maybe he learnt from the best. Just trying to illustrate that .manipulation is probably not gender specific.

Side note, the most manipulative person I've ever known, was completely aware of exactly what she was doing.

The commonality in our anecdotes is that manipulators go to great lengths to pretend to be someone else, gas lighting all along the way.

Also there is a strong (but not absolute) correlation between manipulators and narcissists, everything is about them and so well masked that even their closest friends have no idea how they truly are.

They may even create false narratives publicly against the victim/partner simply to win favor.

Very much in the spirit of Amber Heard.

Something to consider.
 
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If we're talking about narcissists, that's another story. Some people manipulate us because they don't respect SP's and women in general..

But yeah true narcissists are a thing, and they believe their own lies to an extent. I was friends for a very long time with an extremely manipulative and narcissistic person. He presented himself as this sweet, childlike, artistic and spiritual person. People really fell for that persona, and he really did have gifts. Over time, I started realizing how abusive and manipulative he was. I would hear stories about him from mutual friends and he would tell me a completely different version of the story and seemed completely convinced that it was the truth. Over time, I ended up understanding that he was lying to maintain constant victim status when actually he was behaving in ways that were boundary crossing or plain horrifying. The hold this person had on me was so strong and it took a really long time for me to finally see him for who he really was, but now I know better and I am great at identifying types like this lol

When I was talking about people trying to manipulate SP's, I was talking about a phenomenon that is fairly common and that we notice more and more as we gain experience as a SP. A phrase I often heard and don't as much lately is "if you're using a text app and a fake name i can use them too".. which is a really manipulative argument that is insulting to my intelligence honestly lol. But that doesn't mean the person who said it is a complete narcissist.
 

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Do you take some form of birth control med ?

Why do you ask? I do but I've never heard that question except from people who intend to go bare lol. It's probably not information that a client needs to know
 

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Why do you ask? I do but I've never heard that question except from people who intend to go bare lol. It's probably not information that a client needs to know
Not likely but with condoms can slip off accidental or tear prematurely if too thin so in those cases client might need to know
 

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Why do you ask? I do but I've never heard that question except from people who intend to go bare lol. It's probably not information that a client needs to know

Actually, the question has also crossed my mind occasionally - though I never really considered asking. I just figured that given the risks of something going wrong, even with protection - that probably it would be in the ladies best interest. Of course, some forms of birth control don't always harmonize with all bodies.

Along those lines, it always amazed me when you'd hear about some porn actresses not using birth control, given everything involved.

(fwiw, on my end, I would never consider or want to not use protection)
 

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If you booked for a long day. Say 5-6 hours Given the same compensation for that day . Would you prefer multi clients booked for shorter time periods like an hour or single client for the entire 5-6 hours
Which scenario is more physically and mentally exhausting to you?
 

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Which scenario is more physically and mentally exhausting to you?

It depends on the people. Can’t really answer.

Are they all good clients or are they all annoying clients that always try to cross boundaries?
 
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It depends on the people. Can’t really answer.

Are they all good clients or are they all annoying clients that always try to cross boundaries?
Let’s say they are all good clients Preference with one good client or multi good clients over the same time period ?
 

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If you booked for a long day. Say 5-6 hours Given the same compensation for that day . Would you prefer multi clients booked for shorter time periods like an hour or single client for the entire 5-6 hours
Which scenario is more physically and mentally exhausting to you?
I'd prefer seeing a single client for 5-6 hours honestly, and in my experience people who have booked me for 3 hours and more were cool and I had fun with them
 

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Let’s say they are all good clients Preference with one good client or multi good clients over the same time period ?

Then one client because I like to not have to care about time too much. It’s also not just intimacy when it’s a longer date because 5-6 hours includes stepping out of the hotel room/Airbnb for me.
 

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It depends on the people. Can’t really answer.

Are they all good clients or are they all annoying clients that always try to cross boundaries?
So no Mexican clients then. (Only speak annoying foreing languages, always trying to cross international boundaries...)

*crickets*

I'll show myself out.
 

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If you booked for a long day. Say 5-6 hours Given the same compensation for that day . Would you prefer multi clients booked for shorter time periods like an hour or single client for the entire 5-6 hours
Which scenario is more physically and mentally exhausting to you?

I would prefer spending this time with the same client (that is, if he's someone whose company I enjoy) because then it would involve more social time, a meal, etc. It's a full experience as opposed to an hour with 5 different guys where we stick to the usual.

But like Lena said it depends on the person, I'd rather see 5 guys than spend 5 hours with an insufferable prick lol

It also depends what you mean by "same compensation", is it my 5 hour rate or is it my hourly rate x 5 ? In both cases I prefer a longer date with 1 person but my point is if it's my 5 hour rate then I definitely won't choose more people haha
 
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If you booked for a long day. Say 5-6 hours Given the same compensation for that day . Would you prefer multi clients booked for shorter time periods like an hour or single client for the entire 5-6 hours
Which scenario is more physically and mentally exhausting to you?
5 1-hour meetings in a day is not 5 hours of work, it's more like 9-10 hours total. It's a full day of work. Especially if you have one or two outcalls among that, you have to get there and come back. Otherwise, let's say it's only incall, changing the bed sheets, doing at least 3 loads of laundry, tidying up the apartment, taking showers, getting ready again, cleaning the glasses and dishes, eating a bite in between clients, sending email confirmation, etc. takes time.
 
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