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Giselle Montreal

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SPs. If you won a big lottery. Would you quit working as an escort ?
Depends on how much, but I would. I would put my energy somewhere else, I can only offer so much. If I won a lot (a lot) of money, I would build something for Montreal sex workers and manage it, like a resourceful center; I have ideas. If it works, I could even spread the concept to other big cities in Canada.
 

urquell

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For those of you arguing about therapy I would agree with Fradi that it isn't therapeutic. Therapy is generally a specific course of treatment you follow to achieve a permanent result, whether physical in terms of rehabilitation or emotional. Seeing an SP is a valuable source of comfort and I think should be encouraged for those who need human contact and comfort, but the results are neither progressive nor permanent. It is an excellent safety valve though, and the industry performs a service that has great value to society as a whole. The fact that is both beneficial and necessary doesn't make it therapy though. Where Johnny is correct is that it addresses the needs of a large variety of people with a lot of different requirements and who all receive different benefits. Again though, the benefits of the service are temporary and need to be renewed with greater or lesser frequency, and more to the point, they're static, so while enjoyable there is no end goal to achieve or to work towards in a typical SP session, unlike therapy.
 

Giselle Montreal

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but the results are neither progressive nor permanent. [...] they're static, so while enjoyable there is no end goal to achieve or to work towards in a typical SP session, unlike therapy.
I deeply disagree. You might not get anything else besides sexual relief when you see an escort, it might be a fleeting moment, but for some others, the sex part is a need among others. Because some thought women never liked them, women would never touch them, women would never look at them, I have seen some men change and become socially active and more engaging as it helped them gain confidence and believe that they have something to offer to women, and women could be interested in them. We're not therapists, but you can work your things on your end, and our encounters can help you reflect (just like a friend would), with the help of what we have to offer; physical touch, intimacy and complicity.

Basically, any human interaction can help you grow.

It's not true that only psychotherapists help other people. Friends, family, a teacher, everyone can have an impact on someone's life.
 

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The original question was "what do SP's bring to your life other than sexual gratification?"
And yes they probably can bring something else as @Giselle Montreal said (several times if i'm not mistaken. :) )
As i mentioned they have much more experience with clients than all of us combined.

Not exactly sure why this derailed into a "are SPs therapists?" discussion because they're not and i don't think they claim to be but yeah they bring confort to some and that's a pretty good thing, again we are not the same and obviously not looking for the same things which is quite reassuring i think.
 

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If I try and think about every interaction I've had that I would describe as memorable, and the main part is the level of intimacy. The highlights are the end cuddling and talking. Having her fingers playing in my hair or gently roaming as we're holding each other tight.

The sexual act is way less meaningful without the build and landing. To me that's what makes a memorable GFE.
 

urquell

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I deeply disagree. You might not get anything else besides sexual relief when you see an escort, it might be a fleeting moment, but for some others, the sex part is a need among others. Because some thought women never liked them, women would never touch them, women would never look at them, I have seen some men change and become socially active and more engaging as it helped them gain confidence and believe that they have something to offer to women, and women could be interested in them. We're not therapists, but you can work your things on your end, and our encounters can help you reflect (just like a friend would), with the help of what we have to offer; physical touch, intimacy and complicity.

Basically, any human interaction can help you grow.

It's not true that only psychotherapists help other people. Friends, family, a teacher, everyone can have an impact on someone's life.
We'll have to agree to disagree, although truthfully you've misinterpreted some things I said that we already agree on. Any interaction, or action, or event can help you grow. The process of life teaches you to grow in different ways. Frankly, that's neither here nor there with respect to the point I was trying to make.. I've already said that the SP services are valuable, and I didn't refer to the sexual aspects at all, and the need you speak of is why I referred to it as something recurring at whatever interval is necessary. I never, ever said that only therapists can help people. Therapy is a process aimed at achieving a specific goal. Whether it succeeds or not is dependent on a bunch of different things, but it involves identifying a problem and acting to resolve that specific problem through whatever course of intervention is taken. SPs don't do that, so what they do isn't therapy. That is NOT to say that it isn't helpful.
 
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The original question was "what do SP's bring to your life other than sexual gratification?"
And yes they probably can bring something else as @Giselle Montreal said (several times if i'm not mistaken. :) )
As i mentioned they have much more experience with clients than all of us combined.

Not exactly sure why this derailed into a "are SPs therapists?" discussion because they're not and i don't think they claim to be but yeah they bring confort to some and that's a pretty good thing, again we are not the same and obviously not looking for the same things which is quite reassuring i think.
Some people just want to argue it seems. Feels like each side isn't even talking about the same thing. One side says visiting SPs can be therapeutic, while the other side is saying it's not therapy. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone claiming that seeing SPs have cured them of their depression or anything. Not everything therapeutic is therapy.
 
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urquell

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This is one definition, but it isn't the only definition. It's the blind spot.
No, that pretty much literally is the definition, allowing for different word usage. Here's 3 dictionary definitions for you. 1) the treatment of disease or disorders, as by some remedial, rehabilitating, or curative process, 2) medical treatment of impairment, injury, disease, or disorder, 3) the treatment of a physical problem or an illness or the treatment of problems with somebody's mental health by talking with them

Now, how you choose to interpret the word "therapy" is up to you. You also really don't need to be in there defending the SPs though, because I'm not attacking them. It's not a "for" or "against" statement. It's a distinction between one type of beneficial procss and another one.

Since I don't intend to enter into a protracted and ultimately useless argument about semantics I'll leave it up to you guys to duke it out while I take myself elsewhere to other topics. Enjoy.
 

DouMan

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Many interesting points have been put forward but aren't we waaaay overthinking this therapy thing? Let's not forget that we are talking about a pleasant encounter with a woman, a SP, in order to have a good time and, oh almost forgot studying for my psyxxx doctorate, maybe even sex. I don't really care what the definition of psy-this or psy-that is. We do not meet in order to re-write the theory of relativity, we meet to enjoy the moment and to leave feeling good.
 
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Workingman

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Since I don't intend to enter into a protracted and ultimately useless argument about semantics I'll leave it up to you guys to duke it out while I take myself elsewhere to other topics. Enjoy.
This proves nothing except you are unable to see a very basic concept.
 

Workingman

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Many interesting points have been put forward but aren't we waaaay overthinking this therapy thing? Let's not forget that we are talking about a pleasant encounter with a woman, a SP, in order to have a good time and, oh almost forgot studying for my psyxxx doctorate, maybe even sex. I don't really care what the definition of psy-this or psy-that is. We do not meet in order to re-write the theory of relativity, we meet to enjoy the moment and to leave feeling good.
So easy to understand that it goes way over some people's heads.
 
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