Baseball offseason, let's get ready for 2014.
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What brings in fans is if they think the team has the chance to win - if they look at the team and they think that team has a reasonable chance to win it all. As long as the team has the chance to win, fans will come to the park. The New York fans know when the team is short and the front office has acted quickly both times the Yankees did not make the playoffs in the last 18 years. This past year injuries were the main reason but the team needed to be fortified up the middle and that is what Cashman is doing. The fans will come as long as the team wins and the fans see that they have a shot to go all the way. And that is all you can ask, to put a team on the field that has a chance.
Exactly right EB......... the Yanks revenue was down at the box office as well as tv ratings and it was in the multi millions of dollars....Hal wont let that happen again as the Yankee Brand could spiral downward very fast w/o a winning team. At this point i bet he could care less about that $189mil figure.
1. Absolutely, and since the Yanks are old and have no farm system, they should be thinking 2016, not 2014.
2. They've won 1 WS in the last 13 years, while spending like drunken sailors. It doesn't work.
3. Doesn't matter what you say. The Steinbrothers insist they're staying under $189.
You're absolutely right, but you still insist on ignoring the SIMPLE FACT that the Steinbrothers continue to insist that they're going to stay under the $189 M threshold.
YET, have seen their franchise value grow like crazy.......... what part dont you understand? lol
I don't care what they spend. I just want a team that will have the chance to win it all, and they will a figure out a way to put that team on the field. They always do.
Wrong, I said put a team on the field that has a chance to win it all. That has happened almost every year in the last 20 and that is what brings the fans into the ballpark. You are totally wrong because every season no fan knows who will win until the final out of the World Series. What counts is what a fan thinks about who will win before that out is made. In the 162 games of the regular season. You either think the team has the chance to win or you dismiss it. The Yankees have had far more chances than any other team and it is because they give their fans a team that has that chance. That is what you do not get and that is why the Yankees are worth more than $1 billion from $10 million in 1973. That is what makes money in baseball.
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OK. Then explain why the Dodgers are worth more than $2 billion.
And what you do not get is that the Steinbrothers are more concerned with saving $60 M over the next two years than they are with winning. Or maybe they're just realistic about this team's chances, which, by the way, aren't good...short of spending $250 M.
The Yankees are worth $2.3 billion as of 2013......the most valuable sports franchise in the USA:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbad...d-tops-the-worlds-most-valuable-sports-teams/
That is from $10 million in 1973...do the math on the appreciation.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbad...d-tops-the-worlds-most-valuable-sports-teams/
That is from $10 million in 1973...do the math on the appreciation.
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Wonderful. And they're still determined to come in under $189 M in 2014, a salary level at which they can't win considering their albatross contracts and lack of young players. However, after resetting the luxury tax, they can go wild next winter.
What will make it increasingly harder to buy championships in the future, however, is the increased ability of other teams to compete in the free agent market and the compensation set-up in the CBA. Whether you or iggy like it or not, the playing field has changed and the Yankees in the future will have to get back to developing talent. The next time they're likely to field a competitive team is 2016.
Part of the Yankees value is their long history of success, but a large part of it is their being located in the very lucrative NY metropolitan area. Hence, the Mets value.
Just to give you an idea of the changing landscape. Starting next year, EVERY team including the Yankees will receive $25 M more in national TV revenue. But can the Mariners afford Cano? Consider...at the moment, they have but $34 M committed for 2014. They also have a 17 year $2 Billion local TV contract starting in 2014 bringing them almost $118 M per year. Yup, even for the Mariners, a $240 M contract for Cano is small change.
The Mariners will then have $142 M coming in from TV rights. Plus licensing, plus revenue sharing, plus ticket sales, plus concessions, plus parking, plus souvenir sales. Can they have a $150 M payroll and make money? Absolutely, and that's without considering, as Beav has noted, that the biggest part of any team's profit, not just the Yankees, is the appreciation in the team's value.
Frank McCourt owned the Dodgers for less than 10 years, ran the team into the ground, then sold it and netted a $1.278 Billion profit...after taxes.
Actually, I'm quite satisfied. Three titles in 10 years. Earned not bought. The only team with three championships in the 21st century. A strong roster. A deep farm system. A brilliant past and a bright future.
And...unlike you and the Beav...living in the real world.
For the offseason signing thread. Here's the deal for Cano with the Mariners. I'm kind of shocked that Cashman's strategy of over paying for Ellsbury didn't bring the price of Cano down, thought Beav nailed this one! And old Yankee friend Granderson moves cross town to the Mets.
Mets ink Grandy
Mets ink Grandy
Yeah, me too. Lol.
I was just reading a chat on the Yankees Lohud blog. The suicide rate in metro NY is just through the roof today. Pharmacies are running out of Zoloft right and left. Fortunately our very own Merb brethren are so out of touch with reality that they are most likely completely unaffected.
As I read the LoHud chat, there seems to be one recurring theme. As Chad is continually asked, "Why don't the Yankees trade for..." (Cespedes, Kipnis, Kendrick, etc.) Chad's answer is always the same: "The Yankees don't have the pieces."
One other thought. With Cano gone, Jacoby Ellsbury is the best player on the Yankees. Last year, he was the fourth best player on the World Champion Red Sox.
David Price to the Blue Jays?, it could happen according to Jeff Passon from Yahoo sports, I for one would absolutely love it if it were to happen, ticket sales in Toronto would go through the roof.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...latest-on-david-price-matt-kemp-and-more-buzz
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...latest-on-david-price-matt-kemp-and-more-buzz
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