Climate change
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dear STN,
you are very good at raising doubt, but doubt will always exist (case in point - flat-earthers) . You have to see past that. How about quoting the hundreds (or thousands, however many that can be found) of indenpendatly minded climate scientist who 'belieive'. You put a lot of effort in finding the outliers, but not a lot of effort recognizing the
3 sigma of the normal distribution of opinion (that's something like 98%) who accept the science. Please dont tell me they are all part of some kind of conspiracy!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution
link added with tongue in cheek...:argue:
you are very good at raising doubt, but doubt will always exist (case in point - flat-earthers) . You have to see past that. How about quoting the hundreds (or thousands, however many that can be found) of indenpendatly minded climate scientist who 'belieive'. You put a lot of effort in finding the outliers, but not a lot of effort recognizing the
3 sigma of the normal distribution of opinion (that's something like 98%) who accept the science. Please dont tell me they are all part of some kind of conspiracy!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution
link added with tongue in cheek...:argue:
And how about hundreds (or thousands) of scientists (including Nobel laureates) who have the gall not to march with the herd? Care to explain where the magic number of 98% comes from?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...th_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming
I am sorry for repeating myself, but this thread has been in circulation for months, so all this has been rehashed quite a few times.
Have you at least bothered to read your own quote? It is long, I get it. First of all, the the part dealing with the scientific prominence is an obvious lie. Care to name one climate researcher who is more prominent than, say, Freeman Dyson? And as for the actual number being discussed, it says something about climate researchers most actively publishing in the field, and even so without any evidence to back it up. Did they get it directly from Moses on Mt. Sinai or were there intermediaries? And then of course it magically turns into 97% -- 98% of all "publishing" climate scientists. And by the time it reached our board, it became 98% of all scientists. Why not 100% -- as the rest are obviously not scientists at all but deranged Trump voters on Big Oil's support.
Is this your best shot?
Thank you, nice joke!
Are you familiar with the most relevant principle for dealing with "climate researchers"?
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bullshit asymmetry principle
For the baseball stadium being built in a safe place away from the ocean.
Another problem is untangling short-term from long-term trends. The rate of sea level rise has mysteriously slowed down in the most recent decade, for example. The*leading theory*is that this blip is due to heat being sucked*up by the deeper, colder parts of the ocean; cold water simply doesn’t expand so much on heating as warmer water does, so the sea level rise is less, says Nerem. But the slowdown isn’t expected to last.*
*The primary reason this accounting is tricky is spotty data: Satellite measures of ocean height only go back to 1993, for example, and of the world’s more than 100,000 glaciers, there are only 17 with melt records going back 30 years or more. “We have to make huge assumptions,” says Chambers.*
*IPCC admitted, did not include the possibility of rapid ice flow from*Greenland or the Antarctic into the sea
Ok, first clip.... Sea level slowed down, not " expected " to last.
Second clip....We have to make assumptions, you know what that means.
Third clip... Was it not recently proven that the Antartic ice sheet was expanding.
Another problem is untangling short-term from long-term trends. The rate of sea level rise has mysteriously slowed down in the most recent decade, for example. The*leading theory*is that this blip is due to heat being sucked*up by the deeper, colder parts of the ocean; cold water simply doesn’t expand so much on heating as warmer water does, so the sea level rise is less, says Nerem. But the slowdown isn’t expected to last.*
*The primary reason this accounting is tricky is spotty data: Satellite measures of ocean height only go back to 1993, for example, and of the world’s more than 100,000 glaciers, there are only 17 with melt records going back 30 years or more. “We have to make huge assumptions,” says Chambers.*
*IPCC admitted, did not include the possibility of rapid ice flow from*Greenland or the Antarctic into the sea
Ok, first clip.... Sea level slowed down, not " expected " to last.
Second clip....We have to make assumptions, you know what that means.
Third clip... Was it not recently proven that the Antartic ice sheet was expanding.
Just crawled out of bed, this sudden climate change in Drummondville has me scared, for the past week it has been very nice, all the sudden the ground is very wet with extreme high winds. May have to put sandbags around my pool to keep the flooding waters out.
On the lighter side, fuck it got miserable out real fast.
On the lighter side, fuck it got miserable out real fast.
Just found this when searching list of scientists for man made climate change. Interesting.
For the purpose of this list, a "scientist" is defined as an individual who has published at least one peer-reviewed research article in the broad field of natural sciences, although not necessarily in a field relevant to climatology.*
For the purpose of this list, a "scientist" is defined as an individual who has published at least one peer-reviewed research article in the broad field of natural sciences, although not necessarily in a field relevant to climatology.*
again politics get in the way.
scientific data from noaa says the opposite:
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html
Global sea level[FONT="] has been rising over the past century, and the rate has increased in recent decades. In 2014, global sea level was [/FONT]2.6 inches[FONT="] above the 1993 average—the highest annual average in the satellite record (1993-present). Sea level continues to rise at a rate of [/FONT]about one-eighth of an inch[FONT="] per year[/FONT]
And the other side of the story.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-sea-is-rising-but-not-because-of-climate-change-1526423254
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-sea-is-rising-but-not-because-of-climate-change-1526423254
^^^^^ Do not deny that, what I am suspicious about is at what rate is is caused by man.
*Today, we know that thecontinents*rest on massive slabs of rock called tectonic plates. The plates are alwaysmoving*and interacting in a process called plate tectonics. The*continents*are*still moving*today.Jun 1, 2015
Just as the toffee might droop, the continental crust formed valleys so deep that ocean water rushed in. The region continued to spread and the Atlantic Ocean was formed.
That ocean continues to grow today. Take a submarine from New Jersey toward Morocco now and halfway into your trip you’ll hit this mid-ocean ridge — a jagged volcanic seam where magma oozes up creating new seafloor. It’s the same seam that originally rifted the two sites apart millions of years ago.
Underground volcanoes also displace water.
When*magma*reaches the level of the seafloor, it meets cold ocean water and quickly cools to form basaltic rock, often termed "pillow lava" due to its rounded shape. ... Continued volcanism in one area can build up to formunderwater*mountains*called*seamounts or even islands that breach the ocean surface.
If an estimate of 4,000*volcanoes*per million square kilometers on the floor of the Pacific Ocean is extrapolated for all the oceans thanthere*are more than a million*submarine(underwater)*volcanoes. Perhaps as*many*as 75,000 of these*volcanoes*rise over half a mile (1 kilometer) above the ocean floor.
*Today, we know that thecontinents*rest on massive slabs of rock called tectonic plates. The plates are alwaysmoving*and interacting in a process called plate tectonics. The*continents*are*still moving*today.Jun 1, 2015
Just as the toffee might droop, the continental crust formed valleys so deep that ocean water rushed in. The region continued to spread and the Atlantic Ocean was formed.
That ocean continues to grow today. Take a submarine from New Jersey toward Morocco now and halfway into your trip you’ll hit this mid-ocean ridge — a jagged volcanic seam where magma oozes up creating new seafloor. It’s the same seam that originally rifted the two sites apart millions of years ago.
Underground volcanoes also displace water.
When*magma*reaches the level of the seafloor, it meets cold ocean water and quickly cools to form basaltic rock, often termed "pillow lava" due to its rounded shape. ... Continued volcanism in one area can build up to formunderwater*mountains*called*seamounts or even islands that breach the ocean surface.
If an estimate of 4,000*volcanoes*per million square kilometers on the floor of the Pacific Ocean is extrapolated for all the oceans thanthere*are more than a million*submarine(underwater)*volcanoes. Perhaps as*many*as 75,000 of these*volcanoes*rise over half a mile (1 kilometer) above the ocean floor.
And speaking of deniers: here is how a bunch of the craziest of them has almost lynched a brave climate warrior. Most likely under a phony pretext of needing to get to work or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GCZ-xUrfW8
This gang must be outlawed ASAP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GCZ-xUrfW8
This gang must be outlawed ASAP!
^^^^^^ Those fucking retards, one day they will stop the wrong group and Karma will fuck them over.
Since some just do not get it after repeating it over and over.
My thoughts about climate change.
Yes it is changing
No, just like the last 20 or so doomsday predictions we are not doomed.
We are making progress every year, less and less GHG's are produced by most except the most extreme emitters.
Change can not happen now.
Canada is neither the problem nor the solution to climate change. I refuse to believe that a tax will do any good.
This is a pumped up media / political frenzy to get money.
No scientist can say what percentage of climate will be altered if fossil fuels are shutdown ( impossible to do in the next 50 years ).
Every motherfucking oil producing nation is making billions from their oil reserves but Canada is the one that needs to shutdown, serious!
Climate protesters of all sorts come to Alberta and never venture into the real problem areas.
Obama spouts about climate change while under his watch while the US becomes the largest oil producer in the world.
The Liberals put a tanker ban on the west coast but just fine to have oil tankers come down the east coast from Saudi.
The NDP and Liberals want to completely shutdown our fossil fuel production.... Why, Canada is losing $17 billion a year due to lack of pipelines. If Canada does reach the Paris accord agreement it will reduce worldwide GHG's by 0.00042 % Woooo. Not worth the cost.
I can see some of the minds going into a whir.... Denier.
My thoughts about climate change.
Yes it is changing
No, just like the last 20 or so doomsday predictions we are not doomed.
We are making progress every year, less and less GHG's are produced by most except the most extreme emitters.
Change can not happen now.
Canada is neither the problem nor the solution to climate change. I refuse to believe that a tax will do any good.
This is a pumped up media / political frenzy to get money.
No scientist can say what percentage of climate will be altered if fossil fuels are shutdown ( impossible to do in the next 50 years ).
Every motherfucking oil producing nation is making billions from their oil reserves but Canada is the one that needs to shutdown, serious!
Climate protesters of all sorts come to Alberta and never venture into the real problem areas.
Obama spouts about climate change while under his watch while the US becomes the largest oil producer in the world.
The Liberals put a tanker ban on the west coast but just fine to have oil tankers come down the east coast from Saudi.
The NDP and Liberals want to completely shutdown our fossil fuel production.... Why, Canada is losing $17 billion a year due to lack of pipelines. If Canada does reach the Paris accord agreement it will reduce worldwide GHG's by 0.00042 % Woooo. Not worth the cost.
I can see some of the minds going into a whir.... Denier.
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