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jalimon

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What's her stand on our hobby?

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n...nal/1506441373/Programme_final.pdf?1506441373

section: 1.21

It's like the rest of her programme. Quite vague...

From her programme:
"et d’améliorer le soutien social offert aux personnes œuvrant dans les différentes
sphères du travail du sexe ou désireuses d’en sortir, dans une approche globale
d’accessibilité, de prévention et de médiation urbaine"

De la "médiation urbaine" ?? WTF!

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So, what can we expect going forward?

Are pit bull owners free to unmuzzle their dogs and unleash them into the streets to celebrate, play and nip joyfully?

What transportation issues will come to the forefront?

What else? How will this change in leadership impact tourists if at all?
 

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EB.....on radio this morning she said that she opposed the rules on pit bull cause she wants other dogs also to b targetted.

On transportation she wants to add 300 hydro-electric busses in the streets PLUS a new metro line -cost at least 4 billions.....of course she will need more than 4 years to achieve...

On tourisme i don't see any change for the future....Montreal has already a lot to offer.....plus la faiblesse de notre dollar sont de bons incitatifs.
 

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On tourisme i don't see any change for the future....Montreal has already a lot to offer.....plus la faiblesse de notre dollar sont de bons incitatifs.

"Montréal is back on top as the city having hosted the most international conventions in all of North America, according to the Country and City 2016 rankings released by the International Congress and Convention Association (ICCA)."

This is stuff that matters. It was under Coderre's years tho... Shall not change especially as many International association what to host their event in canada because of fucking Trump. I wonder how much the hobby influence Montreal to be such popular convention destination ;)

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Thanks Jal. for this stat.....intéressant et un bon indicateur de la popularité de Montréal à travers le monde.....
 

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Look behind you.
Alberta is all happy that Coderre lost, arrogant waste of skin.
Now he claims he wants to quit while he is on top, on top? He just lost a major election.. Bahahahaha.
 

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Did Coderre at least carry the Westmount and Griffintown ridings?

Griffintown is not an electoral district and its territory is split between the electoral districts of Le Sud-Ouest and Saint-Jacques - both rather large districts - and maybe even a little bit of the Peter-McGill district depending on where you place the limits of Griffintown. In Le Sud-Ouest, Benoît Dorais of Projet Mtl was easily reelected 71% to 29%, and the 4 elected councilors were from Projet and won by wide margins. In Saint-Jacques, Projet's candidate Robert Beaudry won 52 to 46 over Richard Bergeron, who was running for Equipe Coderre.

For mayor, Plante won by 5.73% over Coderre, who himself had won the 2013 election by a 5.68% margin over his main challenger.

The turnout went from 43.32% in 2013 to 42.45% in 2017.

Interestingly, some numbers that I have seen floated around on Twitter Sunday night seemed to indicate a strong turnout in areas dominated by Projet, and a lower turnout in Coderre's areas of strength. So much for the supposed Projet's inability to get the vote out.

EB, I have to admit that I was a bit triggered by your comment last week when you wrote
"the young people who support Plante overwhelmingly historically will not vote, especially not on a Sunday when they are sleeping in after a late night of partying",
and I joked by replying that I was fine with Coderre's supporters staying home if they were so sure to win :rain: I don't know if you were serious or not, but I can't blame you for thinking that, because that's what we often hear - and what often happens... even if I'd counter that by pointing out that there's also a great deal of older people who don't know squat about politics and don't even bother to read the news. But I'd say it's refreshing to see that, on a rainy-stormy-shitty-weather D-Day, Plante's supporters, who are often 45 and younger, young professionals, students, young families, were motivated enough to carry her, when Coderre, despite being the incumbent, failed to generate enough enthusiasm to get his own supporters to the polls.

Age is not everything and Coderre is only a decade older than Plante, but there's also something to say about electing a 43 year-old woman, who entered active politics at 39, over a 54 year-old man who ran for office for the first time at 25 and basically did nothing else of his life.

All the 2017 Montreal election results are here
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Alberta is all happy that Coderre lost, arrogant waste of skin.
Now he claims he wants to quit while he is on top, on top? He just lost a major election.. Bahahahaha.

I'm a bit out of the loop on this. Albertans had been spamming Montreal Gazette's comment section for quite some time about Coderre - of course, probably the 5-6 same individuals - but a lot of them seemed to really rejoice yesterday that we kicked him out of office. On the National Post's article on Plante's election, all comments were from Albertans blasting Coderre. I know it's in relation to Energie Est, but why are they so angered by Coderre on this... I mean... Out of the top of my head, I have no clue who the Edmonton mayor is, but Coderre seems to be some kind of celebrity in Alberta, they hate him more than we do!

Anyway, if these people think a new Montreal mayor is good news for their beloved pipelines, they are in for quite a surprise.
 

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I know it's in relation to Energie Est, but why are they so angered by Coderre on this...

Because Coderre was not afraid to speak out when all other politician sheep hide their shit behind vapor speeches that means nothing.

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Look behind you.
Because Coderre was not afraid to speak out when all other politician sheep hide their shit behind vapor speeches that means nothing.

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Coderre did not seak for the majority of Quebecers, 68% ( last I heard ) were in favor of energy east. Politicians seem in favor of dumping raw sewage into their drinking water ( and it jappens all over Quebec ) but to assist Alberta Coderre said their was nothing in it for Quebec. Perhaps the 200 bilion Alberta gave to equalization payments would deserve some gratitude but some useless POS think not. The oil will come by rail ( Cenovus just rekeased plans to ship millions of barrels by rail, how did that work out? ).
Albertans are pissed that Coderre celebrated the stoppage of Energy east. When a have not province since 1959 which has recieved over 300 billion from the rest of Canada it would be nice to see them at least attempt to assist another province, but the political arrogance makes the rest of Canada sick ( and not only Alberta ). Quebec prefers to spend 10 billion a year in Saudi, shipping oil across the oceans and into their shit covered waters than have a pipeline from Alberta, Nova Scotia is pissed as they lost billions in the deal also. So short story, Coderre spoke his mind, not the mind of most Canadians, just the vocal ones, the hypocrites who use oil every day, the ones who have no clue that Alberta and Saskatchewan have the most environmental oil extraction processes in the world, figure that a massive tanker coming from Saudi Arabia gives no pollution, that the over polluted oil fields in Saudi or any other country will keep their pollution in their country.
Quebec breeds political assholes, Canada pays the price.

Added note: The money Quebec send to Saudi Arabia pays for groups like ISIS. Their human rights is right on key with your beliefs also I assume.... Out of sight and out of mind, perfect way to live.
 

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Exactly my point johnhenry.

STN Coderre is not the one that made the decision. He only spoke out his opinion. couillard and provincial liberals made it very clear 2 years ago that there long term plan does not include investing in fossils fuels. They are simply following that plan.

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I was totally unaware that Westmount was not part of Montreal. I had always believed that the name Westmount was a shortened version for the "Western Mountainous" part of Montreal. I did not realize it had declared independence from Montreal. I also don't understand how the west Island is part of Montreal and Westmount is not. It seems like the whole island should be one united political municipal entity.

As for Griffintown, it really should be its own riding and not part of 3 others. I find it odd that this neighborhood should be part of 3 separate precincts.

Regarding Plante, I heard that she is an extreme leftist so I assume that means she will tax and spend more aggressively than her predecessors. I just wonder whether her policies will create divisiveness, between Anglos and Francophones and between local and more national businesses and US/foreign businesses.
 

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Exactly my point johnhenry.

STN Coderre is not the one that made the decision. He only spoke out his opinion.,

What pissed off many from out west was his celebrating and saying he won after the Energy East was canceled. Also his comment of " Why should we let the pipeline through, there is nothing in it fot Quebec ". Such arrogance, Karma did him in. Next we have your premier saying Canada should support Bombardier, unity and all that false crap coming out of his mouth while he trashes the pipeline. Do you know how many thousands of kms of pipelines get built every year and only 4 are being protested, due to foreign paid protesters to protect their sale of their oil.
 

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That may be all true STN but long term electricity will prevail over fossil fuels. Europe took a major step with Germany's resolution to ban the selling of internal combusion engine by 2030. Other country already followed steps. Asia will probably as well. It's a win / win situation for europe and asia as they are currently big importer and want to cut their dependency on that. But they are both big electricity producers. Quebec is in the same boat. 2030 is tomorrow.

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Look behind you.
couillard and provincial liberals made it very clear 2 years ago that there long term plan does not include investing in fossils fuels. They are simply following that plan.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-for-oil-gas-exploration-with-new-energy-plan

Really, I know for a fact that Quebec is exploring because a good friend of mine is on a massive seismic program in northern Quebec as we speak. When the field is ready they will build pipelines to a coast and not one politician in Quebec will be against it.

What many of you also do not understand is that there are over 6000 uses for oil, those that think oil just makes motors turn are ignorant to the industry. Every oil producing nation is exploiting their oil to make billions while Canada is spending billions to get what we have.
If that makes sense to some of you I give up, there is no hope.
Europe is billions in debt over their go green, Australia and a few other countries have given up on the go green, they learned the hard way, look at bankrupt Ontario, the most indebt non sovereign nation in the world trying to go green.
It would be like a country with billions of dollars of gold reserves deciding to pan for rocks instead because gold extraction causes pollution.
 

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I looked to the Toronto media for a more objective view of the results and they see it as a “stunning defeat for Montreal Elites and the Old Boy’s Club”:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...feat-a-message-to-montreals-elites-hbert.html

Meanwhile, what will Coderre be doing with himself now that he is out of municipal politics? What was his career before he got into politics? I assume he will not be offered a job at the local animal shelter.

By the way, whatever happened to Shane Doan’s defamation lawsuit against Coderre and Coderre’s countersuit against Doan for defamation? I was once involved in a defamation case involving two local public figure and in the USA it’s very hard to prove a defamation claim brought by a public figure.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
Coderre was a blowhard, but now we've elected an extreme leftist to replace him. Idiots who think that Plante will be pipeline-friendly or more business-friendly are simply that - idiots.

We have been fighting lefties for a long time, used to them. Pissed at Corderre for his arrogance, publicly celebrating the cancelation of the pipeline, saying no way because there is nothing in it for Quebec.
Who knows, Plante may be far left but it is not 100% she would block a major pipeline that would bring billions into an economy, some are not as stupid as others Chances are slim but she may not be an ass about it like Coderre.
 

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The West Island is not part of Montreal either. Below is a link to a map; the red parts are Montreal, the orange parts are not.

http://local.fiatlux.tk/montreal/image/arrondissements.jpg

It's objectively bizarre. Manhattan, much like Montreal, is an Island, a borough that is entirely within and part of New York City. That map is equivalent to, for example, to looking at a map of Manhattan and visualizingTribeca and Greenwich Village separating from Manhattan and New York City, along with Hell's Kitchen and Harlem. Those residents use the same subway system and the same bus system. It's almost unthinkable that such "neighborhoods" could credibly become autonomous political entities. It's actually a bit shocking to me that these erstwhile neighborhoods of Montreal deign to call themselves cities.
 

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I agree with you EB, but as John mentioned separatist have shaped the landscape ;)

Also, worth to note that the Island of Montreal is 500 square kilometres, Manhantan 87...

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