Right-wing conservative supporters are living a delusion. There is no price on the planet. Climate change is a fact and we see the proof of this. The conservatives deny all of this but what can you expect from people who want to unify the state and church? Having said that it is true that using green energy is not economically sound but there is no price on the planet. It is our kids and grand kids that will pay the price for our actions. Throwing all that carbon into the air cannot be good it will significantly disrupt the equilibrium we currently have. Using fossil fuels is over 100 year old technology. We must make progress. The future is here and companies like Tesla made major progress on electric cars with the first performance oriented electric cars with a useful range. As for the east pipeline I do not have much comments about that except that each province were looking out for their own best interests. There has always been a collision between the west and east. Both share very different political views.
Coderre v/s Plante
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Coderre was a POS and he ruled like a dictator. He was one of the worst mayors and the people have shown that. He is the first mayor since 60 years to not have been elected a second term and he lost to a woman. This is to show how much people hated him. He might be a liberal fiscally but politically he has proven to be socially conservative. Since his election stripclubs have been shutting down left and right and mileage dropped across the board. The city has been busting on stripclubs for prostitution a Coderre initiative. He wanted to turn Montreal into a boring church family city like Edmonton and Calgary. Lame cities if you ask me. We have no more red light district it is all gone again thanks to this dumbass Coderre. He did many things to gain spotlight to show to the world that he cares and is doing something but this is all BS. He just wanted to show how politically correct he is and wanted the international spotlight. He biggest dumbest move was his pitbull ban. All the experts told him it does not work he still went ahead with it. The veterinarians refused to euthanize healthy dogs, the SPCA were going to pull out of Montreal as they did not want to collect healthy dogs. Coderre still was going with it and was making his politically correct speech. What a dictator.
He wasted so much money on stupid projects. First off he wasted millions of dollars to light up the Jacques-Cartier bridge. Money should be spent on people not for his projects to gain him spotlight. He could have used that money to do a metro extension. He also started the dumbest thing is to tear down the Bonaventure expressway and the 720 highway to make some urban boulevard. These were built in the 60's for a reason and that was to move traffic quickly from the suburbs into downtown. He thinks people will actually drop their cars to take the bus. Right now and I never seen this in 20 years all construction is all happening at the same time. You cannot take an alternate route since every route has construction. Thanks to this moron Coderre. Now it is too late the 720 east has been torn down. He made a huge mess of the city. He is also constantly raising municipal taxes. I have seen some restaurants in downtown that were there for years close down to too high municipal taxes including Super Sexe. I can go on and on. But I am very pleased that he is gone. I convinced all my friends and family members to vote for Plante to get rid of Coderre.
He wasted so much money on stupid projects. First off he wasted millions of dollars to light up the Jacques-Cartier bridge. Money should be spent on people not for his projects to gain him spotlight. He could have used that money to do a metro extension. He also started the dumbest thing is to tear down the Bonaventure expressway and the 720 highway to make some urban boulevard. These were built in the 60's for a reason and that was to move traffic quickly from the suburbs into downtown. He thinks people will actually drop their cars to take the bus. Right now and I never seen this in 20 years all construction is all happening at the same time. You cannot take an alternate route since every route has construction. Thanks to this moron Coderre. Now it is too late the 720 east has been torn down. He made a huge mess of the city. He is also constantly raising municipal taxes. I have seen some restaurants in downtown that were there for years close down to too high municipal taxes including Super Sexe. I can go on and on. But I am very pleased that he is gone. I convinced all my friends and family members to vote for Plante to get rid of Coderre.
"He is the first mayor since 60 years to not have been elected a second term and he lost to a woman. This is to show how much people hated him. "
I hope you dont really mean that?
Coderre has nothing to do with stripclub going down. Stripclub are going down because younger generation has zero interest and most of them are just ripoff.
We have no more red light ok but we have the best hobby town in the world if you ask me.
Tearing down bonaventure expressway was a great decision. Montreal deserve en entry that do justice to the city. Not that ugly expressway. I do agree with you it would have been better not to do all the construction at the fucking same time but hey in a few years it will be history.
Now the most important project is the electric train that will relay the airport to downtown (then on to south-shore) in 20 minutes. If Montreal wants to remain one of the world top destination for congresses that is absolutely needed. And by the way can you imagine 15 minutes after picking your luggage you could be in the arms of a wonderful lady downtown wouhou!!
Cheers,
p.s. I am a positive guy. Everyone fucking complains about everything, even when it's for the better.
I hope you dont really mean that?
Coderre has nothing to do with stripclub going down. Stripclub are going down because younger generation has zero interest and most of them are just ripoff.
We have no more red light ok but we have the best hobby town in the world if you ask me.
Tearing down bonaventure expressway was a great decision. Montreal deserve en entry that do justice to the city. Not that ugly expressway. I do agree with you it would have been better not to do all the construction at the fucking same time but hey in a few years it will be history.
Now the most important project is the electric train that will relay the airport to downtown (then on to south-shore) in 20 minutes. If Montreal wants to remain one of the world top destination for congresses that is absolutely needed. And by the way can you imagine 15 minutes after picking your luggage you could be in the arms of a wonderful lady downtown wouhou!!
Cheers,
p.s. I am a positive guy. Everyone fucking complains about everything, even when it's for the better.
Here is what you can not comprehend, now pay attention, read this twice. We know that there is climate change, we never deny that. What we also know is that no amount of taxes will change what the climate is doing. Speaking for our children having to pay you are correct, our kids will have to pay in the way of extreme taxes and the climate will continue to change. Living in a country that is carbon neutral, only produces 1.6 % of the worlds pollution and cutting that in half ( and that is impossible unless we all walk, onna worldwide scale it will mean nothing. We are not the the ones who deny what is happening, we know a massive scam to rid our wealth is happening.
Wake up.
Helirage, STN this is not the main concerns you should have for your kids. Number one concern is inequity.
In 2015 the ratio of people at poverty to wealthy level is 89 to 1. In the end the power of number never looses. With the accessible technology at end for these 89 in poverty they might improve their living. And if they do, and if they reach the degree of non conscience about the planet as the wealthy have had for years, well forget about our planet!
Cheers,
In 2015 the ratio of people at poverty to wealthy level is 89 to 1. In the end the power of number never looses. With the accessible technology at end for these 89 in poverty they might improve their living. And if they do, and if they reach the degree of non conscience about the planet as the wealthy have had for years, well forget about our planet!
Cheers,
Coderre a fait ses adieux aujourd'hui. Bien fait. Beaucoup diront bon débarras...pas moi. On peut certes lui reprocher son style pitbull----parfois nécessaire en politique---mais POUR MOI il a été un leader comme il y en a peu. Il aimait sa ville et n'a rien ménagé pour la revitaliser et innover...évidemment cela dérange mais
c'était devenu urgent et nécessaire....Montréal ayant été laissé à l'abandon sous les administrations de Bourque et Tremblay. Il a aussi bien fait la promotion de Montréal sur la scène internationale....et nous en sommes tous gagnants. Il n'a pas été parfait..mais l'ensemble de son bilan sur 4 ans est impressionnant.
Il peut quitter la tête haute...j'ai voté pour lui et lui dis.....merci Denis..et bonne chance. Pour la suite on verra...MAIS malheureusement je ne porte pas de lunettes roses.
c'était devenu urgent et nécessaire....Montréal ayant été laissé à l'abandon sous les administrations de Bourque et Tremblay. Il a aussi bien fait la promotion de Montréal sur la scène internationale....et nous en sommes tous gagnants. Il n'a pas été parfait..mais l'ensemble de son bilan sur 4 ans est impressionnant.
Il peut quitter la tête haute...j'ai voté pour lui et lui dis.....merci Denis..et bonne chance. Pour la suite on verra...MAIS malheureusement je ne porte pas de lunettes roses.
Gaby,
You describing Coderre's political MO as "pit bull style" is a bit ironic, wouldn't you say? Now the voters have muzzled Coderre.
You describing Coderre's political MO as "pit bull style" is a bit ironic, wouldn't you say? Now the voters have muzzled Coderre.
Gaby,
Bien d'accord avec toi. Coderre a reoriente la politique municipal et "drained the swamp".
Mais je trouve toujours curieux, comme d'habitude, que les gens ne vote pas sur le fond mais sur la forme.
Bien d'accord avec toi. Coderre a reoriente la politique municipal et "drained the swamp".
Mais je trouve toujours curieux, comme d'habitude, que les gens ne vote pas sur le fond mais sur la forme.
IMHO....pitbull in the way he was unpleasant, agressive, arrogant mainly towards unions and medias...il était entêté....BUT FOR ME...he was honest, franc et direct....even fun to watch....BUT as you said voters have muzzled him......Speaking for myself i will miss him and his AUTHENTICITY......voilà.
Merci helirage tu me réconfortes....je craignais vraiment de me sentir seul ici....effectivement les électeurs ont opté pour un autre style de gouvernance...on verra....mais chapeau tout de même à ceux et celles qui se lancent dans cette aventure folle où ils ne s'appartiennent plus et acceptent de se mettre au travail 24 heures par jour 7 jours par semaine au profit de leurs citoyens,
Gaby I am with you on this.
Few year ago I was involved in a large cooperating group to give advice and guidance in my field of work in montreal. There was like 250 of us in that group, which, because of our field of work is very important to a city's image around the world.
What a fucking surprise one day I receive a call from Denis Coderre asking me question and feedback about how our collective was doing and if I felt I was good or a waste of time! I asked other ppl and it turned out he called all 250 of us! Who in hell would do that? It showed me that whatever is image was, he cared!
Cheers,
Few year ago I was involved in a large cooperating group to give advice and guidance in my field of work in montreal. There was like 250 of us in that group, which, because of our field of work is very important to a city's image around the world.
What a fucking surprise one day I receive a call from Denis Coderre asking me question and feedback about how our collective was doing and if I felt I was good or a waste of time! I asked other ppl and it turned out he called all 250 of us! Who in hell would do that? It showed me that whatever is image was, he cared!
Cheers,
This sounds to me like an incredibly vapid and superficial question, and even if made to 250 or 1,000 people it’s still insipid. Did he really think you would say that what you were doing was a waste of time? Why bother asking a question, the answer to which is a foregone conclusion? I think he did not give a shit about your answer, he could have asked you what you thought about Montreal’s image abroad and also wouldn’t have given a half a shit about your answer.
He just wanted you and the 249 others to hear his voice. That was the only agenda. He might as well have asked if your wife had nice tits.
I get your point EB but still it did not fell that way. I mean when you are mayor you can say your care but do not act upon it. Or you can say your care and act!
Cheers,
You're far from the only one to think that. In fact, ex-Mayor Jean Drapeau launched in 1960 with Lucien Saulnier the idea "Une île, une ville" ("One island, one city"). It never materialized and when Mayor Bourque tried to ressuscitate the idea with the govt of Quebec circa 2000, it was a disaster... Mostly because people are emotionally very attached to their community, and don't want to give control over to "central City"... a bit when like the states/provinces don't want the federal govt to decide for them. Add to that the language component, English communities were wary of amalgamating politically with a mostly French city... and the fact that Bourque had help from a PQ government.. It was a big mess.
It makes a lot of sense, but efforts to implement it backfired spectacularly, so I'm not sure what they should do about it. After the 2000-2004 fiasco, nobody wants to open that Pandora's box.
Personally, I am fully supportive of Projet Montreal's incline toward giving boroughs more power, because it seem to me that every time things are controlled from City Hall, instead of uniformly doing things right accross boroughs, things are uniformly done wrong accross the board. If we don't have a solution to that, we might as well decentralize.
Perhaps. Probably gonna be eventually. For the moment, i think Griffintown is very shitty. A complete mess, only condos, no community, terrible lack of services. It lacks two things in particular: life, and soul.
When it appeared clear to the Coderre team that they were going to lose (they probably had internal polls indicating so), they went in full fearmongering mode and sent AnieSamson (a well-known liar whose resignation was asked for the way she conducted the pitbull debacle, and who got the asskicking she deserved Sunday) and tried to portray Plante and Projet Mtl as "radical leftists" and "extremists".
They're not, and good on Montrealers for not listening that non-sense. Yes, they have Quebec solidaire supporters in their rank, they also have HEC students, they ran a business owner in Hochelaga that is now in office, I personally know small businesses owners who support them. It is a broad coalition at this point. You can't elect extreme leftists (or extreme right-wingers for that matter) in Montreal. You have to go toward the center, or you are condemned to the political fringe. They do have a left slant though, and the way they deal with unions will be something to keep an eye on.
Here is a thought, does the increased cost of living due to the carbon tax plus the taxes need to to pay billions to other countries to assist in climate change assist the middle class and lower class? The ones that live day to day on tjeir earnings and cringe when costs go up and pat checks go down. Justine is on a record soending spree and a lot goes toward climate change, the thing Canadians can do nothing about with taxes.
Edit: Also, you no not need to be near the 1% to have a good life, the 1% are in a league of their own with wealth that could save countries. My outlaws in Quebec probably make 60k a year and enjoy life, people I know out west make 150k and have a good time. One does not need 20 billion to be a happy person and one should not be envious of billionaires. Our governments is what is holding us back, not climate.
Bushleague,
The history of geographical subdivisions of large cities I have visited and how they developed into what they are is a sort of hobby/interest of mine. I look at that political subdivision map of Montreal posted by johnhenrygalt and it strikes me as odd because Westmount is somewhat centrally located and yet somehow it is its own independent political entity within a much larger whole city. No American city is like this, that I know of.
However, there are some erstwhile neighborhoods in Manhattan whose residents behave autonomously and somewhat independently. The terrorist attack that happened in New York City on Halloween occurred in Tribeca, a neighborhood in lower Manhattan that I have stayed in frequently- it's where my two most commonly visited NYC hotels are located. In the aftermath of the attack, I heard a few Tribeca residents interviewed. One lifelong Tribeca resident discussed the area, and never once referred to New York City, proudly stating that "we created Tribeca." The name refers to the "Triangle Below Canal Street", or Tribeca for short.
The history is detailed in the link below, but in short the neighborhood has become a politically significant entity due to the star power of many actors, musicians and artists who have lived or owned businesses there, notably actor Robert DeNiro (founder of the Tribeca Film Festival), and musician Paul Simon, among many others. More here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribeca
If there was ever any neighborhood in New York City to mount a Westmount like independence movement, it would probably be Tribeca. In fact, Tribeca did not even exist prior to the 1970s. People generically referred to the area as the financial district or lower Manhattan.
Similar in some respects to South Boston in Boston, also located in the southern part of Boston, ironically. South Boston would be analogous to the Gay Village in Montreal, albeit a bit bigger in area.
The history of geographical subdivisions of large cities I have visited and how they developed into what they are is a sort of hobby/interest of mine. I look at that political subdivision map of Montreal posted by johnhenrygalt and it strikes me as odd because Westmount is somewhat centrally located and yet somehow it is its own independent political entity within a much larger whole city. No American city is like this, that I know of.
However, there are some erstwhile neighborhoods in Manhattan whose residents behave autonomously and somewhat independently. The terrorist attack that happened in New York City on Halloween occurred in Tribeca, a neighborhood in lower Manhattan that I have stayed in frequently- it's where my two most commonly visited NYC hotels are located. In the aftermath of the attack, I heard a few Tribeca residents interviewed. One lifelong Tribeca resident discussed the area, and never once referred to New York City, proudly stating that "we created Tribeca." The name refers to the "Triangle Below Canal Street", or Tribeca for short.
The history is detailed in the link below, but in short the neighborhood has become a politically significant entity due to the star power of many actors, musicians and artists who have lived or owned businesses there, notably actor Robert DeNiro (founder of the Tribeca Film Festival), and musician Paul Simon, among many others. More here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribeca
If there was ever any neighborhood in New York City to mount a Westmount like independence movement, it would probably be Tribeca. In fact, Tribeca did not even exist prior to the 1970s. People generically referred to the area as the financial district or lower Manhattan.
Similar in some respects to South Boston in Boston, also located in the southern part of Boston, ironically. South Boston would be analogous to the Gay Village in Montreal, albeit a bit bigger in area.
Cambridge is separated from Boston by the Charles River. It is not smack in the middle of the Island like Westmount is in Montreal. This really is not a geographically sound example.
Beverly Hills probably is a better example, although it was never part of Los Angeles. The only times in its history when annexation by Los Angeles were discussed was when there were water supply issues.
Paradise is an unincorporated town adjacent to Las Vegas and governed by the Clark County Commission so its not really independent nor is it part of Las Vegas.
Beverly Hills, University Park and Westmount all have in common one thing: monied residents. University Park and Cambridge also have in common that they are largely colonized by major universities- Harvard and SMU, which are major centers of academia and higher education. Beverly Hills, somewhat like Tribeca in NYC, is a colony of artists (actors, musicians, entertainers) that largely espouse a different political agenda than the population at large of the cities surrounding them.
JHG’s mention of Cambridge and University Park brings up another interesting point which is that generally towns and cities which are home to significant universities generally have unusual political organization. Another example is the University of Connecticut. UConn is located in Storrs, which is a Village within the Town of Mansfield, CT. If you go on Seeking Arrangement most UConn coeds list their residence as Storrs, CT- as I did when I lived there and sent mail to family. However “Storrs” does not exist in the SA search engine, only Mansfield does. Meaning if you do a search on Mansfield you will not find the vast majority of UConn coeds on Seeking arrangement, of which there are many!
Making matters more confusing, if you visited Storrs and got shitfaced at a local bar, thinking you would only need to elude Mansfield Police Vehicles, you would be very badly mistaken. This is because LE resides with the University police department, aka the UConn Police Department. There are many other college towns with similar confusing political structures.
Making matters more confusing, if you visited Storrs and got shitfaced at a local bar, thinking you would only need to elude Mansfield Police Vehicles, you would be very badly mistaken. This is because LE resides with the University police department, aka the UConn Police Department. There are many other college towns with similar confusing political structures.
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