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sene5hos

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récit personnel

Je me me suis permit de raconter mon récit, comme j'ai beaucoup de temps, cela m'a fait du bien, même si ça n'intéresse personne.

Au CHSLD des Moulins qui se situe à Terrebonne dans le quartier Urbanova.
«Les conditions sont exécrables. Les patients sont sales. On arrive, ils ont encore de la nourriture du dîner dans la bouche, au quart de soir. Les yeux sont collés, les oreilles sont sales, les cheveux sont gras, les vêtements sont souillés. On arrive dans les chambres, puis il y a encore des selles et de l'urine sur les planchers qui ne sont pas nettoyés», a raconté une préposée aux bénéficiaires à TVA Nouvelles.

Ces propos sont ceux d'une infirmière et d'une préposée. Elles font partie des employés de CHSLD publics envoyés en renfort dans les établissements privés.
«Chaque soir, il manque de débarbouillettes, il manque de piqués. C'est fréquent que les outils de base ne sont pas fournis.»

Elles décrivent un établissement à la dérive, où employés et résidents sont laissés à eux-mêmes.
«Je n'aurais pas laissé ma grand-mère là, si on m'avait donné tout l'or du monde. On ne peut pas traiter les gens comme ça. Ils sont malades. Ça ne veut pas dire qu'on arrête de les soigner, qu'on arrête de nettoyer l'environnement. Au contraire, il faut mettre les bouchées doubles.»

Je connais ce CHSLD, car je l'avais visité pour mon père. Le groupe Arbec sont propriétaires de 6 CHSLD. Ce sont ceux que nous avions le plus appréciés, nous avions choisis celui de Terrebonne. Malheureusement mon père est décédé à l'hôpital.

Quand j'ai vu ce qui se passe là, cela m'a permit de faire pleinement mon deuil, au moins il est mort à l'hôpital entouré des siens.
 

Doc Holliday

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Jalimon - What is acceptable risk? If no risk is acceptable than why not shelter in place for the normal flu season which has a 0.1% death rate every year? Research in California is suggesting a 0.2% death rate for Covid-19. What is the death rate due to the mental anguish and increase in obesity and other factors created from the hysteria of this pandemic?

You make very valid points. And in Germany the death rate for Covid-19 is currently 0.37% and in Iceland it's 0.4%. And if they'd be able to test every resident who's asymptomatic the numbers would be even lower.

Personally i not only worry about how the economy will look after this but also how many people will experience chronic mental health problems & obesity, which will lead to even more serious long-term health problems.
 

Doc Holliday

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You realize that this is impossible, correct? This is not going away until there is a vaccine or unique treatment or until we all catch it or at least 60-70% of us catch it.

Very true. That's how they really got rid of the 1918 H1N1 flu virus: the virus ran out of bodies to infect. Either people had all been infected or had died.
 

sene5hos

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Trump called for caution yesterday at his press conference with the Governor of Georgia. Yet barely 2 days ago, he told him to reopen as soon as possible.

He just changed his mind. It is okay for a politician to be able to change his mind from time to time, but in the case of Trump it is also from time to time, but every week.

It is useless, even with the best will I don't understand the Americans to have voted for this financier.
Unfortunately, he will never become a good President.
 

jalimon

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Very true. That's how they really got rid of the 1918 H1N1 flu virus: the virus ran out of bodies to infect. Either people had all been infected or had died.

You stopped calling it the Spanish Flu? They never knew where it originated from. The first known case was in the United States. But many theories leads to France or China (again...).

And the first wave in the Spring was much milder then the second wave in the Fall of that same year. I hope we will not repeat that!
 

CLOUD 500

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Legault is talking to gradually reopen and about the idea of herd immunity. I agree with him. -> https://montrealgazette.com/news/qu...Gt496uhI2rqo2ku6onxNKtMeDY#Echobox=1587665889

Legault showed true leadership skills vs Trudeau who hesitated on everything and is more concerned with being politically correct. We are in a lockdown and the economy is collapsing when everyone is confined and Trudeau wants more refugees. -> https://canoe.com/news/national/can...-asylum-seekers-under-new-closure-arrangement
 

jalimon

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So Legault today lay out the plan to gain more natural immunity until September. Because if not the second wave will be worst. So again he lead the way in Canada, and waaayyyyyyyyyyy ahead of Trumpet's fucking non sense briefing, to officially bring us forward towards better global immunity.

Ho by the way new HHS spokesman deleted today his past tweet.. 2 of them:
"Democrats are pulling for the virus to kill a lot of people."

"Coronavirus is the Democrats' new Russia, their new Ukraine. And nobody will believe them except their zombies. But know this: The Dems' strategy to defeat @realDonaldTrump requires 100s of thousands of American deaths. Will one of their nutjobs make it happen, a la Hodgkinson?"

Good luck folks!
 

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The Dems definitely want to portray Trump as not having handled the pandemic well. Surely this political motive is clear to everyone.

Some in the media are doing this too. I used to have more respect for CNN, but their daily pot-shots at Trump show their bias.
 

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Whaaaaa? That dude asked about injectable form of Clorox???? Wonder if he and Las Vegas mayor shacked up in past and Eric trump was product? He does look a bit different than don jr and ivanka
 

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That dude asked about injectable form of Clorox????

How much bleach should I use? Which type of needles work best? Should I inject it in my arm or buttock? OMG. We in America are all going to die. :Cry:

NY Time is reporting today:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/...action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

[FONT=&amp]"WASHINGTON — President Trump arrives in the Oval Office these days as late as noon, when he is usually in a sour mood after his morning marathon of television.
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[FONT=&amp]He has been up in the White House master bedroom as early as 5 a.m. watching Fox News, then CNN, with a dollop of MSNBC thrown in for rage viewing. He makes calls with the TV on in the background, his routine since he first arrived at the White House.

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And he makes time to watch Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo’s briefings from New York, closely monitoring for a sporadic compliment or snipe.[FONT=&amp]"
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"The daily White House coronavirus task force briefing is the one portion of the day that Mr. Trump looks forward to, although even Republicans say that the two hours of political attacks, grievances and falsehoods by the president are hurting him politically.

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[FONT=&amp]Mr. Trump will hear none of it. Aides say he views them as prime-time shows that are the best substitute for the rallies he can no longer attend but craves.
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[FONT=&amp]Mr. Trump rarely attends the task force meetings that precede the briefings, and he typically does not prepare before he steps in front of the cameras. He is often seeing the final version of the day’s main talking points that aides have prepared for him for the first time although aides said he makes tweaks with a Sharpie just before he reads them live. He hastily plows through them, usually in a monotone, in order to get to the question-and-answer bullying session with reporters that he relishes.

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The briefing’s critics, including Mr. Cuomo, have pointed out the obvious: With two hours of the president’s day dedicated to hosting what is still referred to as a prime-time news briefing, who is going to actually fix the pandemic?[FONT=&amp]"

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Doc Holliday

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Whaaaaa? That dude asked about injectable form of Clorox???? Wonder if he and Las Vegas mayor shacked up in past and Eric trump was product? He does look a bit different than don jr and ivanka

Eric Trump's biological father is Gary Busey. No joke, i'm dead serious. Busey was fucking Ivana Trump at one time.
 

Doc Holliday

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How much bleach should I use? Which type of needles work best? Should I inject it in my arm or buttock? OMG. We in America are all going to die. :Cry:

I watched today's rally & i couldn't believe what i was hearing. Even Dr. Scarf appeared shocked at what she heard. Look folks: if you guys can't figure out a way to get rid of this guy pronto then you're all fucked! If you can't use the 25th amendment on this nutbar then it'll never used ever! So why have it?
 

Doc Holliday

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They never knew where it originated from. The first known case was in the United States. But many theories leads to France or China (again...).

There's some research that shows that the H1N1 flu may have actually started as early as 1915. Many believe it originated from some army base in Kansas in March 1918 but as you mentioned there are other researches which indicate it may have occured first in Europe or China.

According to Trump injecting yourself with disinfectant or bleach may work in killing the virus.

Personally i'd seriously advise against it. Not a good idea!
 

jalimon

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According to Trump injecting yourself with disinfectant or bleach may work in killing the virus.

Personally i'd seriously advise against it. Not a good idea!

You are wrong it works! They should follow is advice and inject themselves disinfectant it will kill the virus for sure as it will kill you as well.
 

jalimon

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I like the tweet response by Marseille Immunology center:
“In the same way, we suggest that self-immolation by burning could be a useful alternative!“
 

cloudsurf

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According to Trump injecting yourself with disinfectant or bleach may work in killing the virus.

It will kill the virus , dissolve your organs and turn your eyes white.
How many idiots are going to kill themselves by following his musings.

In Iran there was a rumour that alcohol will kill the virus. 800 died by drinking rubbing alcohol.
 

jalimon

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Some in the media are doing this too. I used to have more respect for CNN, but their daily pot-shots at Trump show their bias.

Yeah right... And now if you look on Foxnews there is absolutely nothing regarding Trump's ridiculous use of disinfectant to cure yourself... That's incredible but on the other hand maybe they have done that to protect their viewers as they would be stupid enough to follow his advise....
 
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