Coronavirus

[jalimon]

Correct Cloud... Many here still deny the severity of this virus. It affects the whole body with many other related issues besides pneumonia...
- some showing up to hospital with 50% oxygen capacity while barely coughing and no fever
- kids developing rare illness (kawasaki syndrome)
- double rate of ACV due to blood clot (especialy in 30-50 year old rage)
- blood clot leading to serious problem (amputation)
- organ failure
- Additional viral and bacterial infections
- Acute kidney injury

Italy and Spain were caught unguarded by this virus. Both country have stellar healthcare system. Still it became war zone.

Each time I read someone still making comparison to the Flu I roll my eyes and think "my god what a ...."

 

[EagerBeaver]

The whole of the medical community head-faked political leadership into thinking Covid-19 was not an issue. As I posted earlier my own pulmonologist was telling me in December it would be no worse than a bad seasonal flu outbreak. He was parroting what was being discussed in the community at that time.

 

[gaby]

Agree with CS and jalimon......ce virus est sournois et menacant surtout pour les 65 ans et plus avec déjà des problèmes d'hypertension, cardiaques, diabète, obésité, respiratoires..etc......aucune chance à prendre.....faut oui se plier aux consignes contraignantes sanitaires.....pour soi et pour les autres.....et oui sûrement encore pour des mois.

 

[fromtheoutside]

Not overblown, but certainly sensationalized (like what Jalimon did a few posts up).

The economy needs to reopen; phased, slow and deliberate, but it needs to. We took a kick at the lockdown can, it did not work (to the intended extent). Early on, the lockdown needed to be immediate and total for 2-4 weeks, not the phased, piecemeal, pick-away at it approach that was used. That ship has now sailed.

But today, we are more aware, knowledgeable and have identified those groups most vulnerable. Government needs to make the hard choices in managing this pandemic, not in the vacuum most look at it in, but in a society interconnected with so many other considerations. Canada needs the hospital and medical resources and properly equipped front line workers. How? Not my problem. We have elected and pay for politicians and medical experts to figure that out. So, figure it out.

Tragedy is not universally defined and it means different things to different people, and death is not the ultimate tragedy to some.

Our leaders need to act and make hard and maybe unpopular decisions, not the safe, politically correct ones that will get them re-elected.

 

[OnJustALark]

... She had been fatigued and run down the last few days and also had been throwing up, and as well her sister was throwing up and had a fever and so she went and got tested.

I would be encouraging they swab another area or have them pee in a cup ... when did you last see her? If not protected ... hello daddy! LOL

Gonna get interesting, as have been saying, at least in US ... Bri recently saying, as opposed to what posted above by someone on Flowcheese (Fauci) ... death numbers are inflated by at least 25% .... all in the name of corruption and taking money - yes, its a fact, sorry to hurt your whittle Wiberal feewhings .... but this has been a corrupt cash grab and the evidence is in the the accounting of all deaths recorded since mid February when they "knew" there was payday coming for how they tracked CCP Virus accounts ... that and to keep the country in lockdown.

Nutsinho likely on to the same notion ... will have to watch his movie ...

In mean time ... just HOW many liberties are YOU willing to give up and where and how does it end folks??

They may be coming for you…

 

[IamNY]

Watched the Kevin James video last night, hilarious!

 

[donbusch]

TRUMP IGNORED OBAMA DETAILED PANDEMIC PLAYBOOK & WAS UNPREPARED

Ronald A. Klain (born August 8, 1961) is an American political operative and lawyer. He served as chief of staff to two U.S. vice presidents – Al Gore(1995–99) and Joe Biden (2009–11), and served as the United States Ebola response coordinator in late 2014 into early 2015.[1] - Wikipedia

https://twitter.com/x/status/1260234681573937155

 

[EagerBeaver]

I would be encouraging they swab another area or have them pee in a cup ... when did you last see her? If not protected ... hello daddy! LOL

As I stated previously I have not been intimate with her since the pandemic started (we have been in a relationship 3 years, which is not predicated only on sex). We are responsible persons and observed protocol on the occasions we have gotten together, mostly dinner and Netflix quarantine buddying. My exposures to her were likely the same or similar as Fauci's were to Pence's press secretary, so if she tested positive I was getting swabbed.

 

[sene5hos]

A chance that there is the "Lounge" section by which we can express ourselves on the subject of the hour.

Because as far as the other sections are concerned, it is fairly calm, a pandemic requires.

Thank you Merb.

 

[cloudsurf]

Think about it people. Think outside of the box and on a grand scale.
How could nature restore equilibrium and balance back on this planet as brilliantly as its doing now. This virus is like a neutron bomb....killing humans but not harming the rest of the planet.
Earth was in crisis mode . Overpopulation , climate change, extinction of species at an alarming rate, runaway pollution and destructions of the oceans. A solution that doesn`t do more damage to the ecosystem had to be found.
Nature brought us a half dead, yet highly contagious and deadly virus that couldn`t reproduce without a human host. It may sicken up to 50% of the world population in wave after wave over the next several years unless some type of vaccine is found ….not a given.
In the long run humanity will be better off than before and our great grandchildren who will inherit a cleaner and healthier planet will thank us for our sacrifice.

I edited one word and decided to repost this because it makes even more sense a month later.

 

[minutemenX]

I edited one word and decided to repost this because it makes even more sense a month later.

With your pep talk it looks like serial killers are doing service to the “Nature”. There is no entity with the brain/intelligence that we can call “Nature”. Nature (environment with all biological life) does not care if the planet is clean or not, if some species dies or not. Many million years ago biological life emerged and "polluted" pristine planet releasing poisonous (for the rocks) oxygen, covering ocean floors with disgusting biological sediment etc. Now the intelligent life is changing environment again. So what?

 

[CLOUD 500]

Ukraine has removed the lockdown with some social distance rules enforced -> https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-05-outdoor-cafes-reopen-ukraine-eases.html

 

[jalimon]

With your pep talk it looks like serial killers are doing service to the “Nature”. There is no entity with the brain/intelligence that we can call “Nature”. Nature (environment with all biological life) does not care if the planet is clean or not, if some species dies or not. Many million years ago biological life emerged and "polluted" pristine planet releasing poisonous (for the rocks) oxygen, covering ocean floors with disgusting biological sediment etc. Now the intelligent life is changing environment again. So what?

You almost makes sense The thing is yes nature by itself can pollute pristine planet but how many years it took? 1 million? How many it took to bring back pristine level? Another million maybe? Now look at the impact of human over the last 40 or 50 year and you will see that we are self-destructing the planet at a speed zillion faster then nature itself can do.

Cheers,

 

[sene5hos]

Let's talk about the vaccine.
With a vaccine against this coronavirus, what I am most afraid of is that someone in the world finds a vaccine, that they put it on the market because the whole world is waiting for it , that the said vaccine cannot be produced for everyone.

Imagine that an American firm finds it, Trump will want to keep it for himself (even today he sacked someone who said not like him), so it could prove to be less effective than expected.

And even if it didn't happen, before everyone had it it could take at least a year

 

[sene5hos]

A science official sacked for political reasons gave testimony before the US Congress Thursday against the government of Donald Trump.

Denouncing the lack of preparation and organization at the top of the State, he estimated that the development of an effective vaccine would take "more time" than the 12 to 18 months regularly mentioned, and pointed to the failure of the Trump administration to provide enough protective equipment to healthcare workers.

Rick Bright was head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, a government agency responsible for developing treatments and vaccines for the new coronavirus, until the end of April.

 

[minutemenX]

You almost makes sense The thing is yes nature by itself can pollute pristine planet but how many years it took? 1 million? How many it took to bring back pristine level? Another million maybe? Now look at the impact of human over the last 40 or 50 year and you will see that we are self-destructing the planet at a speed zillion faster then nature itself can do.

Cheers,

Intelligence has its own faster time scale than biological life and will change the planet within a few hundred years from now. I guess what comes next after humanity will do it within a few short years. Human body is too fragile and exists for for too short time to satisfy natural desire of any intelligence being to leave an eternal life. Thus, something different will emerge. So, for whom you want to preserve the present state of the planet?

 

[donbusch]

Coronavirus-free Travel Bubbles between countries within which people can travel freely are being planned - first, the Trans Tasman bubble w/ Australia & NZ and now one in the Baltics. Somehow, w/ the truly fucked up Trump Administration coronavirus response, I don’t see the US being asked to join anytime soon.

Australia and New Zealand discuss possible trans-Tasman 'travel bubble'

New Zealand and Australia are discussing the potential creation of a "travel bubble" between the two countries, even as Australia on Monday reported its highest number of coronavirus cases in two weeks.

www.reuters.com

Baltics launch Europe's first pandemic 'travel bubble' as curbs ease

Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia opened their borders to each other at the stroke of midnight on Friday, creating the first "travel bubble" within the European Union in a bid to jump-start economies broken down by the coronavirus pandemic.

www.reuters.com

 

[sene5hos]

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the most respected voice of the US government on the new coronavirus, issued a stern warning Tuesday against a premature reopening of the United States, thereby contradicting the message the day before by Donald Trump.

Yesterday Trump disparaged Dr. Fauci.

We must not forget that he predicted more than 100,000 deaths. And me at the time I thought it was impossible and wacky. There we are at 86,000, 100,000 dead are approaching.

 

[gaby]

It's possible a vaccine can never be developed and l'OMS said this nasty virus could be with us for ever.....so possible we will have to live with.

 

[2fast2slow]

over 80% of cases/deaths are in the health system or in the old folks homes. rates are actually quite low in the general population. if we were in better control of the health system we could of deconfined more quickly. frustrating