It's more than scary it's a humanitarian catastrophe.
And all because of that damn money.
And its president, who wanted to be re-elected at all costs.
Already almost 128,000 deaths, and until….
I'm sad
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It's more than scary it's a humanitarian catastrophe.
And all because of that damn money.
And its president, who wanted to be re-elected at all costs.
Already almost 128,000 deaths, and until….
I'm sad
And you really think that nobody would be dead and everything would be wonderful if someone else was President? This is completely deluded thinking. Covid was going to be bad no matter what. And will continue to be as long as people keeping playing the blame game rather than try to solve the problem. Meanwhile there is an alternative which you are suggesting with your posts which has catastrophic economic consequences for the country. Unlike you, I actually give a shit about small business owners who are trying to survive right now. All anyone can do is try and be safe and continue to be productive and keep their heads above water. Mortgages do not pay themselves, last time I checked. Tuition bills do not pay themselves and medical bills do not pay themselves. In addition to this Bankruptcy Courts, like hospitals, cannot be overwhelmed as there are only so much staff to handle the fallout. Maybe you need to start thinking about these things and the economic fallout of impending shutdowns.
What is your solution? Instead of constantly telling us how every politician fucked up, what is your proposed course of action?
What is your solution? Instead of constantly telling us how every politician fucked up, what is your proposed course of action?
Yes, I do think if someone else was president thing would be different. Shit,
Say pence. Especially that adorable fella you got sitting in Hartford. If he was president there would be some sort of national plan, following of the very guidelines he put out. It Wouldn’t be like no deaths, but @ least to something sustainable, and where people could get back to work instead of another looming lockdown. Trumps has set a mood and that is flowing in the states like it does in Egypt, DeNiAl
Tuition bills don’t pay themselves but this shit is not gonna solve itself. Sure @ beginning you could say how much could you blame trump, but it’s 3 or more months in. He telling people your in post covid mode and instructing his subordinates tondo the same. It sets a national mood and it makes a difference
What would I do, follow the science. Tell people to wear masks, mandate it. If you live in a state and you go to Florida for a stupid F’ing reason, you could come back to my state if I was a governor but if you tried to leave your home for 14 days I’d have contact tracers hurling F’ing eggs at you as you stepped outside.
Theres def a balance you can find, won’t be perfect, but it is achievable, just tons of people who don’t wanna do it
While I agree with most of your post that this would have happened no matter who was President or politicians in charge.
Having said that I doubt that it is up to the posters on Merb to provide a solution.
Isn’t it the job of these elected politicians to guide the country and safeguard the population that is what they get elected and payed for.
Perhaps more than ever it is time to make America great again.
You can give them a pass of having fucked up and not being prepared for this, nobody was and many countries fucked up royaly we in Quebec included.
Many however have learned and put measures in place to get back to some sort of normalcy not the shit show that is going on still in the US with no two states being able to agree on anything and every politician from the President to Governors to Mayors trying to run their individual kingdom a different way.
Americans used to be so great at uniting and working as one, and for a common cause, this time they have failed miserably, and for now there is no end in sight.
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On many points I agree with you.
You are right, this is not the time to criticize, but to put your shoulder to the wheel. It gives absolutely nothing to criticize, there it's too late.
I will no longer criticize Donald, men always want to have a responsable.
That said, the solution I see is that all the states come together regardless of their political allegiance. After that, let the president take the lead and order compliance with health guidelines such as: wearing a mask, social distancing, purell everywhere everywhere, in short, certainly very restrictive constraints, because the vaccine will not arrive before 5- 6 months.
For the moment, no more reopening, and as soon as possible, we will reopen gradually.
Thank you EB
You are right, this is not the time to criticize, but to put your shoulder to the wheel. It gives absolutely nothing to criticize, there it's too late.
I will no longer criticize Donald, men always want to have a responsable.
That said, the solution I see is that all the states come together regardless of their political allegiance. After that, let the president take the lead and order compliance with health guidelines such as: wearing a mask, social distancing, purell everywhere everywhere, in short, certainly very restrictive constraints, because the vaccine will not arrive before 5- 6 months.
For the moment, no more reopening, and as soon as possible, we will reopen gradually.
Thank you EB
I do agree the States need to work together, and this state to state quarantine stuff is a concern which Trump has nothing to do with. Connecticut's quarantine list is up to 16 States. Because Florida is one of those states, I cannot visit my parents including my mother who is quite ill. If I went to Florida I would have to quarantine for 14 days on my return. Although it's conceivably doable it would be very difficult.
Covid 19 has exposed a flaw in not having a centralized government on public health matters. Therefore each State marches to its own drummer. Connecticut's doing well after being hard hit not just due to Ned Lamont who is soaking the credit, but more due to the fact that the medical care in CT is tremendous. Starting with Yale and it's vast health network and trickling down from there. I got a Covid Test and had results back in 8 hours 47 minutes via email. You guys think this is common? How many of you got your Covid test results back quicker? Or was in and out of Covid drive through in 3 minutes? CT is the place to be right now although we weren't 3 months ago. I credit our healthcare system - it's fantastic. Highest cost of medical care in the USA but we are getting what we pay for.
Covid 19 has exposed a flaw in not having a centralized government on public health matters. Therefore each State marches to its own drummer. Connecticut's doing well after being hard hit not just due to Ned Lamont who is soaking the credit, but more due to the fact that the medical care in CT is tremendous. Starting with Yale and it's vast health network and trickling down from there. I got a Covid Test and had results back in 8 hours 47 minutes via email. You guys think this is common? How many of you got your Covid test results back quicker? Or was in and out of Covid drive through in 3 minutes? CT is the place to be right now although we weren't 3 months ago. I credit our healthcare system - it's fantastic. Highest cost of medical care in the USA but we are getting what we pay for.
Latest statistics that came out 2.5% of the population is at risk of going on a respirator and potentially dying of COVID-19. The other 97.5% will just get the same symptoms as the flu.
I stopped searching. I'm curious if we take that 2.5% and remove the ones that are at risk from their own doing: overeating, no exercise, drug & substance abuse, alcoholism, heavy smokers... I can assume that it's around 70 to 80% that are at risk by their own doing without having any definite statistics.
Essentially as a society that is politically correct, la bonne pensante or the right thinking about 97.5% of the population is acting kinda weird to my perspective for a majority of people that don't really care or love themselves.
Is it worth going through all this for less than maybe 1% of the population that is at risk due to congenital disease? Those people at risk should isolate and quarantine themselves not make everyone go paranoid wear masks and gloves.
Who is profiting deeply from lobbying & brown envelopes? Politicians, Pharmaceutical companies, medical supply manufacturers, plexiglass manufacturers and all the disinfecting & hand washing manufacturers. Pharmaceutical companies have such strong lobbying, deep pockets & influence that they made a known effective treatment against COVID-19 illegal so that they can come out with their own vaccine. Meanwhile people where dying...
It always boils down to thi$ not really the bien-être or the well being of others.
Food for thought.
I stopped searching. I'm curious if we take that 2.5% and remove the ones that are at risk from their own doing: overeating, no exercise, drug & substance abuse, alcoholism, heavy smokers... I can assume that it's around 70 to 80% that are at risk by their own doing without having any definite statistics.
Essentially as a society that is politically correct, la bonne pensante or the right thinking about 97.5% of the population is acting kinda weird to my perspective for a majority of people that don't really care or love themselves.
Is it worth going through all this for less than maybe 1% of the population that is at risk due to congenital disease? Those people at risk should isolate and quarantine themselves not make everyone go paranoid wear masks and gloves.
Who is profiting deeply from lobbying & brown envelopes? Politicians, Pharmaceutical companies, medical supply manufacturers, plexiglass manufacturers and all the disinfecting & hand washing manufacturers. Pharmaceutical companies have such strong lobbying, deep pockets & influence that they made a known effective treatment against COVID-19 illegal so that they can come out with their own vaccine. Meanwhile people where dying...
It always boils down to thi$ not really the bien-être or the well being of others.
Food for thought.
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Shame on these old fuckers for living so long and making the young and healthy lose their access to hot pussy and bars and the comforts they have become accustomed to.
At least most of them had the decency to congregate in prison like nursing homes where it was easy to get rid of them in quick fashion.
We should open everything up who cares if these old pricks are somebodies parents or grandparents serves them right for raising such ungrateful dickheads as children.
Pussy and the economy rules.
At least most of them had the decency to congregate in prison like nursing homes where it was easy to get rid of them in quick fashion.
We should open everything up who cares if these old pricks are somebodies parents or grandparents serves them right for raising such ungrateful dickheads as children.
Pussy and the economy rules.
Respect isn't what stifles you. One day you will be old.
Let's see it's not their faults at all, it is the fault of governments.
Damn, these are the people who built our beautiful Quebec.
I have never seen such disrespectful comments.
And sincerely I hope that your cock can no longer stand, and that your family places you in their care prisons.
My mother is in a CHSLD
Let's see it's not their faults at all, it is the fault of governments.
Damn, these are the people who built our beautiful Quebec.
I have never seen such disrespectful comments.
And sincerely I hope that your cock can no longer stand, and that your family places you in their care prisons.
My mother is in a CHSLD
Either somebody removed your funny bone somewhere down the line or you clearly don’t comprehend sarcasm or English very well, That was anything but disrespectful.
Ask cloudserf to translate it for you he got it.
My mother died in one of those terrible homes and I am the last person on earth to disrespect the elderly.
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It's going to be a long summer for Americans who love to travel abroad, particularly to Canada, for fun, culture, food and games. Even domestic travel might be ill advised until we can be vaccinated against the coronavirus. It's now a waiting game.
Some Canadian businesses want to let Americans back in. Most Canadians don’t.
"Amid a general sense here that Canada has handled the coronavirus better than the United States, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in June there was “broad consensus” among provincial leaders to keep current measures along the 5,500-mile frontier in place.
Ontario Premier Doug Ford said he wants the border to stay closed to nonessential travelers beyond the current July 21 end date. British Columbia’s health minister last week rattled off the record numbers of new cases in hard-hit U.S. states.
A national survey by Destination Canada, a crown corporation that markets Canada as a tourist destination, found that just 24 percent of people in Quebec somewhat or strongly agreed with welcoming U.S. visitors — and they were the most enthusiastic province. In British Columbia, the figure was 6 percent.
“Canadians look at what’s happening with the spread of covid in the United States and their comparatively better performance at getting it under control,” said Edward Alden, a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. “And they have no interest at all in Americans coming to Canada.”"
. . . .
"Canada’s tourism sector generates $74 billion annually and is responsible for 1.8 million jobs, according to government figures. Two-thirds of international tourist arrivals to Canada in 2019 came from the United States."
Some Canadian businesses want to let Americans back in. Most Canadians don’t.
"Amid a general sense here that Canada has handled the coronavirus better than the United States, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in June there was “broad consensus” among provincial leaders to keep current measures along the 5,500-mile frontier in place.
Ontario Premier Doug Ford said he wants the border to stay closed to nonessential travelers beyond the current July 21 end date. British Columbia’s health minister last week rattled off the record numbers of new cases in hard-hit U.S. states.
A national survey by Destination Canada, a crown corporation that markets Canada as a tourist destination, found that just 24 percent of people in Quebec somewhat or strongly agreed with welcoming U.S. visitors — and they were the most enthusiastic province. In British Columbia, the figure was 6 percent.
“Canadians look at what’s happening with the spread of covid in the United States and their comparatively better performance at getting it under control,” said Edward Alden, a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. “And they have no interest at all in Americans coming to Canada.”"
. . . .
"Canada’s tourism sector generates $74 billion annually and is responsible for 1.8 million jobs, according to government figures. Two-thirds of international tourist arrivals to Canada in 2019 came from the United States."
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And she as never been so well treated since the army took over. They are doing a serious cleanup under martial law.
I took my mother out of an intermediate residence. She stayed there for about 10 months. She was at the hospital at least every month due to neglect. Urinary infections, diaper rashes, gum infections due to not cleaning her dentures, C difficile infections that were spreaded by preposés aux beneficiaries that didn't follow basic hygiene and sanitation. Every time that I visited her I gave her a shower and those were the only showers that she was getting. Starting from the point that I took care of her in my house for about three years she never was sick or went to the hospital. She died from old age at 93. Took care of my father also during the same period he also died of old age at 91. I sacrificed about 3 years of my life to take full time care of my parents. There was no way in hell that I would leave them under government care.
After about two and a half years of constant supervision and care I finally extorted a three week respite from a social worker. They took her in at Grace Dart CHSLD. Before she went in she would be very active I made certain that she was. Brought her to Costco and she would push the carriage without problems would take walks with her. When I went to pick her up she didn't walk anymore. I had to extort a physiotherapist from the CLSC and also hired a personal trainer specialized in geriatrics. She never came back to how she was and it was downhill from there.
I sincerely regret having left her under care to have me time and a vacation and still feel the guilt to this day that I abandoned and let her down.
Our medical care system is seriously ill. Instead of adressing the issues and solving them they came out with a zero tolerance policy.
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If it was a sarcasm, or I can't read, or you wrote so well that I didn't understand anything. It seems clear to me when you wrote: Shame on these old fuckers.
EB,
I apologize for the lack of perspective I took to someone in your position would be in. I took with the whole NY Florida drama. Totally didn’t mean any disrespect and hope she gets a speedy recovery. Sorry again
I apologize for the lack of perspective I took to someone in your position would be in. I took with the whole NY Florida drama. Totally didn’t mean any disrespect and hope she gets a speedy recovery. Sorry again
That post was a “ tongue in cheek “ post, google it.
You clearly miss understood it completely.
It seems I do write so well that you don’t understand lol.
There was no disrespect to the elderly quite the opposite. You should not always read things word for word but the meaning behind the way words are used.
Who can get the states to work together on quarantine & other coronavirus matters? Is there a national leader within the entire American government that has the stature & influence to coordinate public health policies across a decentralized system? Well ..... some might argue that’s the job of the US President.
The coronavirus is the worst natural disaster that has ever impacted the country, no state has been spared so obviously a national problem, certainly much more than Hurricane Maria, Harvey or Katrina that were all not as broad-based or severe but yet prompted federal responses.
The state governors can argue about federalism till the coronavirus destroys their states or they can pass this political hot potato to the US President who manages the vast resources of the federal government. Which option would they choose?
All the governors would have deferred to a President whom they had confidence in. But it was clear from the start that Trump was not willing to take any responsibility by suddenly rediscovering federalism & states’ rights after 3+ years of Presidential overreach.
Can’t imagine any governor would trust a President that still thinks the coronavirus is just going to disappear. Watch our Commander-in-chief who was just interviewed by Fox Business. Even the Fox reporter was shocked!!!
The coronavirus is the worst natural disaster that has ever impacted the country, no state has been spared so obviously a national problem, certainly much more than Hurricane Maria, Harvey or Katrina that were all not as broad-based or severe but yet prompted federal responses.
The state governors can argue about federalism till the coronavirus destroys their states or they can pass this political hot potato to the US President who manages the vast resources of the federal government. Which option would they choose?
All the governors would have deferred to a President whom they had confidence in. But it was clear from the start that Trump was not willing to take any responsibility by suddenly rediscovering federalism & states’ rights after 3+ years of Presidential overreach.
Can’t imagine any governor would trust a President that still thinks the coronavirus is just going to disappear. Watch our Commander-in-chief who was just interviewed by Fox Business. Even the Fox reporter was shocked!!!
You're truly an angel--I speak from a similar experience as yours. Please don't regret and don't feel guilty. You did the best you could. You're not a robot; heck, even robots need rest and tune-ups. (I also know it's easier said than done -- to forgive yourself and not to second guess what you did or didn't do. I still struggle with the same emotions you are enduring.)
IMHO, in the majority of the cases, care homes or nursing homes are places where our elderly and disabled folks are sent to die, despite our best intentions, that's the reality. I have vowed never to admit anyone in my family to a nursing home.
Sadly, I understand the fatality rate among the care homes in Quebec are twice as high as those in other provinces and even the States.
I have been taking care of my 95 year old mother in law for 6 years now since my wife passed away.
sweet old lady except when she gets in these I want to die moods.
I have learned to hate Judge Judy with a passion lol.
Makes it so difficult to get out and see my favourite escorts. Golf dinner with friends etc ... I have used so often she wouldn’t take it well if she knew.
My mom wasn’t so lucky she needed medical care round the clock in her last year and had no choice but to place her in one of these nursing homes. I hope they shoot me before putting me in one of them.
sweet old lady except when she gets in these I want to die moods.
I have learned to hate Judge Judy with a passion lol.
Makes it so difficult to get out and see my favourite escorts. Golf dinner with friends etc ... I have used so often she wouldn’t take it well if she knew.
My mom wasn’t so lucky she needed medical care round the clock in her last year and had no choice but to place her in one of these nursing homes. I hope they shoot me before putting me in one of them.
Believe it or not, there is a national plan from the federal government, President Trump:
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