Here we go with the ad hominem attacks. I work in healthcare and have directly dealt with COVID patients so that gives me some credibility. Also @cloudsurf, antibodies are not the only thing that conveys immunity. You have to factor in T-cells, memory B cells and complement as well. The immune response is a robust one..people shouldn’t just focus on antibodies.
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What is your field? Because it seems some of the comments your making are a bit off, with all do respect.
“If a virus mutates too much it will mutate itself out of existence”
So far it’s mutating and taking out a lot of peeps with it. These variants have changed the dynamics and age brackets of who is getting infected, and where.
Not saying shut all down and stay inside and lock ur doors, but some common sense please, wear a mask, wash your hands and if you see a SP ur dick and asshole as well please.
I’m fully vaccinated, I would go to a pub with a fully vaccinated group, but you better fuckin be sure i won’t be goin to see my 15 yo for about a week and after getting myself tested
If this corona virus mutates too much to the point it mutates out of existence, it will prob take more than a few people with it.
The key point is to stop it from mutating and the only way to do that is to stop it from replicating—>thus vaccinate as many as possible as keep as many peeps from getting infected with common sense measures, not lockdowns
Cloudy there are cases of people getting covid in USA after full Vaccination, I know a couple, but no one I’ve met was symptomatic. There are reports of some deaths(believe it’s out of Oregon) but it falls well within the efficacy rate of vaccines. There are many cases of reinfection, tons in South Africa and Brazil. I’m sure in USA too but testing and tracing is so shitty tough to keep track and that’s something some of you should criticize Biden about instead of talking bullshit about dementia and calling Harris a prostitute on an escort review board
In the Mid East where they are using one of the Chinese vaccines there are tons of cases of break through cases and deaths, but that vaccine is no where in North America or Europe
Just wear a mask, wash your hands, use common sense or else we could get a variant that escapes a vaccine
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95% efficacy rate means that 5% of those who are vaccinated will have serious illness or death. With 5 cases out of every 100, people are going to die. We are all going to die of something, eventually, anyway.
I think in the remaining 5%, in general the symptoms will be less severe.
Yes Jim.
Found this interesting article on how Canadians can avoid the 3 day/$2,000 quarantine by flying to an airport near the border and taking a taxi across. They still have to quarantine, but they can do it at home instead paying for a hotel stay. The American taxi drivers are considered essential workers so they are permitted to cross the border to bring Canadians across.
95 percent efficacy for COVID vaccines doesn’t mean there’s a 5 percent infection risk. Here’s why
It also doesn’t mean 95 percent of people are protected from the disease.
www.mahoningmatters.com
“ So, in reality, the odds of getting symptomatic COVID-19 after vaccination is really 0.04 percent (not 5 percent) after you divide the number of vaccinated people who got sick to the total number of vaccinated people.”
^^^^Out of the .04% that could catch Covid after being vaccinated it's very unlikely that you will have a severe case or need to be hospitalized. But it's still recommended to wear masks, social distance, etc. until the pandemic is over. It's gonna be a while until things get back to normal. A quote from the article below:
“The vaccine does not necessarily prevent you from getting COVID. It prevents you from being hospitalized or dying from it,” Dr. Kris Bungay, a Manhattan primary care physician, told The Post. “That is why we all still have to be careful.”
nypost.com
www.nbcchicago.com
“The vaccine does not necessarily prevent you from getting COVID. It prevents you from being hospitalized or dying from it,” Dr. Kris Bungay, a Manhattan primary care physician, told The Post. “That is why we all still have to be careful.”
Brooklyn woman gets COVID 3 weeks after Johnson & Johnson vaccine
She’s shot out of luck. A Brooklyn woman who managed to avoid catching COVID-19 throughout 2020 went down with the bug this month — three weeks after being vaccinated. Ashley Allen, 31, …
nypost.com
Can You Get COVID After Being Fully Vaccinated? Chicago's Top Doc Breaks it Down
Can you get coronavirus after being fully vaccinated? The answer is yes, but what are the odds?
www.nbcchicago.com
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104-year-old woman beats COVID-19 twice, gets applause from hospital staff
A 104-year-old woman from Colombia has successfully beat COVID-19 for the second time in less than a year.
www.timesnownews.com
A clip from the article.That is why we all still have to be careful.”
Brooklyn woman gets COVID 3 weeks after Johnson & Johnson vaccine
She’s shot out of luck. A Brooklyn woman who managed to avoid catching COVID-19 throughout 2020 went down with the bug this month — three weeks after being vaccinated. Ashley Allen, 31, …
The vaccine does not necessarily prevent you from getting COVID. It prevents you from being hospitalized or dying from it,” Dr. Kris Bungay, a Manhattan primary care physician, told The Post. “That is why we all still have to be careful.
Just a point if view but isn't the chance of hospitalization and dying from this already ultra low? In Canada 2% of the cases have died from this and 2.6% caught the virus which makes it 0.06% of our population died from this in over a year.
I will wait a year and see if the numbers change before I get a vaccination since we will still need to mask up, social distance and lockdown .
Waiting a year or not waiting a year is entirely up to you. Since I’ve been fully vaccinated there is a huge feeling of relief that I will not end up in the hospital or die from this shit. Not a guarantee, but better than not being vaccinated at all. I’ll take that over waking up everyday and wondering if this is the day.
It could be that you have developed antibodies and it could be that you have just gotten lucky, but I would not leave this to fate. Masking up and locking down is not a guarantee you will be fine for a year. Right now all of Canada and especially western Canada is under a Level 4 travel advisory warning from the CDC. Americans are being urged to stay away from Canada at the moment, so things are not safe there.
Wow western Canada!?!?! Is it that bad? WTH is Saul talking about then? Where are all the cases?
Is Québec still where most of the cases are @?
Is Québec still where most of the cases are @?
"In Alberta, experts believe that the B.1.1.7 U.K. variant has almost entirely replaced the original COVID-19 strain. The P1 variant that emerged in Brazil—which has reinfected people who have previously contracted and recovered from COVID-19 and may be vaccine-resistant—is also spreading in Canada, as is the B1351 variant that first came from South Africa."
CDC Warns Americans Against Travel to Canada, Even if They're Vaccinated
A year into the pandemic, COVID-19 conditions in Canada are worsening as a third wave fueled by new variants brings its infection rates almost neck-and-neck with the U.S.
That is never in my thought, my main concern now is what will my kids have for an economic life and their kids ( not born yet ). Pretty sure I posted about a year ago that this is not going away, so far correct. What happens next when these vaccines are given out and the cases are still there, who do we say to, WTF just happened to our economy? No one will be accountable for that.
Because I do not feel like taking a rushed vaccine for something I have minimal chance of dying from ( I could get killed by a drunk driver next week but still go out ). I will wait since I have no concern.
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