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gallantca

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Not so much what he said, but the proof that was provided. But what does he know, he’s only a US senator and a doctor.

He did not provide proof. He regurgitated the OPINION of a professor. That opinion is contradicted by other professors. At the end, all politics aside, there isn't consensus on gain of function research. In the worst case they will find there was a difference of opinion. Fauci is no idiot. He is not going to lie to Congress. He knows exactly what he is saying. Were they dangerously close to the line on this one. I wouldn't be surprised.

He is asking the DOJ to investigate which is fine. Sending it to the court of public opinion is "typical". You expect that people who take horse medication over vaccination will understand this stuff ?

BTW, if you want to make it absolute political BS, just say it was most recently funded under the Trump admin.

That is exactly the kind of BS we don't need. A clown senator intentionally undermining the credibility of a guy we need in the middle of a pandemic.
 
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At least you guys read the article, one of the biggest issues with COVID is the media coverage. I don’t care much for Rand Paul either.
 
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Being a U.S. senator is no recommendation whatsoever. As for being a doctor, his field has absolutely nothing to do with Dr. Fauci's field of expertise, which is the relevant one for this pandemic.. It's like assuming that a bus driver is an expert on the Indianapolis 500 because he also drives for a living. Paul has NO expertise in epidemiology and he's a politician who will say anything to stir up his right-wing followers. BTW, remember when he went for a swim in the Senate pool WHILE he had COVID? Yeah: a really trustworthy guy - NOT! You might also look up HOW Paul became a doctor and you might not be impressed.
C'mon P, bus driver/Indianapolis 500? Not sure what your even talking about. The senator is accusing Dr. Fauci of lying. He is elected by his constituents to do exactly this. Rand Paul is perfectly in the right to make these accusations. The fact that he has nothing to do with Fauci's field of expertise is irrelevant. You just dislike the accuser. Had it been someone from the left side of the aisle you would have fallen right in line with the other sheep.
 

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This is what the last stages of COVID look like:
This is what COVID death looks like - tubes down your throat and gasping for air. It's like being choked to death or drowning, but instead of it taking minutes, it takes days or weeks... What an absolutely miserable way to go out. Tubes sticking out of your chest, your legs or neck from ecmo, a stint through your arm, a feeding tube into your stomach, ports from kidney dialysis.
 

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Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has a total Ivermectin (drug against coronavirus) meltdown, appearing to take the drug on air, although it's not actually clear he did.

The scary part is people would rather take medical advice from someone like that, than believe a renowned doctor who specializes in viruses.

Alex Jones straight up lied. He said Ivermectin won a Nobel Prize for being an antiviral. False. It won a Nobel Prize in 2015, NOT 2005, for being a novel treatment against roundworm parasites. Ivermectin isn’t approved for ANY antiviral “stuff.”
 

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Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has a total Ivermectin (drug against coronavirus) meltdown, appearing to take the drug on air, although it's not actually clear he did.

The scary part is people would rather take medical advice from someone like that, than believe a renowned doctor who specializes in viruses.

Alex Jones straight up lied. He said Ivermectin won a Nobel Prize for being an antiviral. False. It won a Nobel Prize in 2015, NOT 2005, for being a novel treatment against roundworm parasites. Ivermectin isn’t approved for ANY antiviral “stuff.”

Just so I understand because this is complex :

People that take the vaccines are sheep. Right ?

People that take livestock medication are ......?

This is complicated.
 
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QUÉBEC ce jour....703 nouveaux cas ..1 décès....198 hospitalisations + 20.....70 soins intensifs -- 1......l'INESSS----institut national d'excellence en santé et services sociaux---prévoit une augmentation notable des hospitalisations dans les prochains jours/semaines
mais rien pour mettre en danger notre système de santé.
 

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QUÉBEC ce jour....703 nouveaux cas ..1 décès....198 hospitalisations + 20.....70 soins intensifs -- 1......l'INESSS----institut national d'excellence en santé et services sociaux---prévoit une augmentation notable des hospitalisations dans les prochains jours/semaines
mais rien pour mettre en danger notre système de santé.
I will listening to Calgrary radio today via the iHeartRadio app.

They have more hospitalizations than Quebec/Ontario/Maritimes combined.

Lower vaccination rate, getting rid of restrictions......what could go wrong ?

We have to learn from other people's mistakes. The good news we're surrounded by people that make mistakes :)
 
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I will listening to Calgrary radio today via the iHeartRadio app.

They have more hospitalizations than Quebec/Ontario/Maritimes combined.

Lower vaccination rate, getting rid of restrictions......what could go wrong ?

We have to learn from other people's mistakes. The good news we're surrounded by people that make mistakes :)
Meanwhile in Israel:..." Israel was the first country on Earth to fully vaccinate a majority of its citizens against COVID-19. Now it has one of the world's highest daily infection rates"

Most all mainstream is reporting this situation in Israel. Either they are genetically more vulnerable or we are being lied to here in Canada.
 

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Meanwhile in Israel:..." Israel was the first country on Earth to fully vaccinate a majority of its citizens against COVID-19. Now it has one of the world's highest daily infection rates"

Most all mainstream is reporting this situation in Israel. Either they are genetically more vulnerable or we are being lied to here in Canada.

a) while they were ahead of vaccination, they aren't anymore. They have their share of nutcakes. Like SERIOUS nutcakes.
b) they opened up too quickly
c) while the number of cases is up, hospitalizations are on a downward trend.

If you're expecting the vaccine to put an end to it, you will be disappointed.

Set your expectation that it will reduce serious disease and death and you'll be happier than a blind mind at Cleos.
 
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QUÉBEC ce jour....703 nouveaux cas ..1 décès....198 hospitalisations + 20.....70 soins intensifs -- 1......l'INESSS----institut national d'excellence en santé et services sociaux---prévoit une augmentation notable des hospitalisations dans les prochains jours/semaines
mais rien pour mettre en danger notre système de santé.
Over 70% of the population is fully vaccinated yet cases are rising faster then they did last year at the same time of the year. They will of course blame the Delta variant. I am not buying it. I am even suspicious in the numbers. Are they now working on a Delta vaccine? They might have the Omega or Episilon variant by then.
 
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CLOUD 500

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Just note 900.000 are still non-vaccinated...just saying. ;)
Last year no one was vaccinated and cases are rising faster this year even though the majority got the vaccine this year... Just saying.
 

gallantca

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Over 70% of the population is fully vaccinated yet cases are rising faster then they did last year at the same time of the year. They will of course blame the Delta variant. I am not buying it. I am even suspicious in the numbers. Are they now working on a Delta vaccine? They might have the Omega or Episilon variant by then.

Take the Ontario numbers. 800 cases. 178 were fully vaccinated. So do the math, if the other 25% was fully vaccinated they would contribute 60 rather than 622, for a total of 238 instead of 800, which would be substantially less than last year with a more dangerous variant.

On top of that, while cases are there, hospitalizations in the vaccinated is very low.

What is it going to take for the unvaccinated to see how much useless risk they are putting themselves at.
 

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To add Super healthy humans are now labelled as dangerous disease carriers if they don't get the mRNA therapy. This is classic 1984 marxist inversion of reality.
 
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gallantca

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To add Super healthy humans are now labelled as dangerous disease carriers if they don't get the mRNA therapy. This is classic 1984 marxist inversion of reality


BTW, of the 198 in hospital 14% are under 40. That's till 1 in 7.

Almost as many in the 30-39 category as 80-89. In Delta times, 30 is the new 80
 
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