Coronavirus

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

@minutemenX
Of course, to be able to advance, science needs doubtful and questionning minds. Being a strong skeptical person mysel, I'm always questionning any scientific news. But statistics are not hypothetical, these are real numbers, put in real context. And as a normal rationnal person, I dont need any guidance from whoever, be it scientists or government officials, to read them and see the relationship between those numbers.

 

[minutemenX]

@minutemenX
Of course, to be able to advance, science needs doubtful and questionning minds. Being a strong skeptical person mysel, I'm always questionning any scientific news. But statistics are not hypothetical, these are real numbers, put in real context. And as a normal rationnal person, I dont need any guidance from whoever, be it scientists or government officials, to read them and see the relationship between those numbers.

Just to remind you: “There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics” - Mark Twain.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Mark Twain, beside his writing career, was also known as a famous humorist.

 

[sene5hos]

Just to remind you: “There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics” - Mark Twain.

Yes statistics are not always used correctly.

But there are also statistics, which make you think of things you would never imagine otherwise.

Like 10% = 50%

 

[CLOUD 500]

On this thread there are a lot of guys who don't believe in science, and I find they don't believe in numbers.

Yet the numbers are not wrong.

Believe and science are contradictory words. Fact is when you say believe in science you actually mean follow government orders. I just never understood why so many trust the government. Trust the science is the most anti-science statement ever. Questioning science is how you do science. You confuse follow the scientist with follow science because scientists can be sold to the highest bidder which in this case is the government.

 

[gallantca]

Believe and science are contradictory words. Fact is when you say believe in science you actually mean follow government orders. I just never understood why so many trust the government. Trust the science is the most anti-science statement ever. Questioning science is how you do science. You confuse follow the scientist with follow science because scientists can be sold to the highest bidder which in this case is the government.

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." Neil DeGrasse Tyson

"The good thing about science is it's true whether or not you understand it". Me

 

[CLOUD 500]

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." Neil DeGrasse Tyson

"The good thing about science is it's true whether or not you understand it". Me

In other words follow government orders. You obviously submit to the government. This is clear to me now.

 

[gallantca]

In other words follow government orders. You obviously submit to the government. This is clear to me now.

No, what should be clear to you is I am laughing at your authoritarian, maoism, nanny state bullshit and attributing it to your inability to understand basic concepts.

 

[CLOUD 500]

No, what should be clear to you is I am laughing at your authoritarian, maoism, nanny state bullshit and attributing it to your inability to understand basic concepts.

You are not interested in concepts, only to submit to the government. I am laughing at how you believe all the bullshit the government is saying. But hey if you hate freedom so much you are in the wrong country dude. Pack your bags move to China, you will fit in well.

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/china-puts-city-of-13-million-in-lockdown-ahead-of-olympics/

 

[Valcazar]

In July, Singapore saw an outbreak spring from Karaoke lounges - basically fronts for naughty-naughty

Singapore sees cases spike in large karaoke lounge cluster

Some 54 cases are linked to such lounges, which typically see hostesses interact with customers.

www.bbc.com

Could have just as easily happened here. Would sure make for some uncomfortable confessions though.

had no idea karaoke lounges were fronts.
Serves me right for not being musical.

 

[wetnose]

had no idea karaoke lounges were fronts.
Serves me right for not being musical.

I assure you not much singing goes on...

 

[bonerland citizen]

Those complicit theorists who believe and trust the government, the Fed admited to tracking the cellphones of 33 million users during the lockdown.

So I was in contact with a double vaxxed girl.
She gets a little sick.
Gets tested 2 days later.
Positive.
I did not get sick nor tested.

Gets government email.
Email begins:

......" Montreal public health department wishes to notify you that you have been identified as a close contact, because you have been exposed to a confirmed case of COVID19 at less than 2 meters for more than 15 minutes......"........

Government for sure has a naughty list of hobbyists and providers hehe

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Fact is when you say believe in science you actually mean follow government orders

Oh yeay? How is that ?

 

[CLOUD 500]

Oh yeay? How is that ?

Believing is like faith and religion. What he wrote is to believe it without any question which is anti-science at its core and is authoritarian. Questioning is how you do science.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Yeah but how do you jump to the conclusion that if one believes in science it means that he follows gvt orders? Thats the shortcut I dont understand.

 

[cloudsurf]

Gets government email.
Email begins:

......" Montreal public health department wishes to notify you that you have been identified as a close contact, because you have been exposed to a confirmed case of COVID19 at less than 2 meters for more than 15 minutes......"........

Most intelligent people would consider being informed as a good thing. That gives you a chance to take precautions against infecting vulnerable people in your family. You should also get a notice about being in intimate proximity to a person with an sti so you don`t pass it to your wife.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Ok I'm out of this thread. I've had my share of non-sense for the next 5 years.

 

[IamNY]

This can't be good. Let's hope this isn't about lockdowns and curfews:

Quebec Announced A COVID-19 Press Conference As Cases & Hospitalizations Go Up 'Rapidly'

The eve of 2022 feels a lot like 2020...

www.mtlblog.com

 

[gallantca]

This can't be good. Let's hope this isn't about lockdowns and curfews:

Quebec Announced A COVID-19 Press Conference As Cases & Hospitalizations Go Up 'Rapidly'

The eve of 2022 feels a lot like 2020...

www.mtlblog.com

No Legault, so I suspect no curfews. But given the incompetence these guys have shown recently, logic does not apply anymore.

 

[gaby]

DUBÉ ce jour..

1- Non AUCUNE autre mesure mise en place...pas de couvre-feu.

2- Seule mesure annoncée....vu le manque de personnel important...va permettre au personnel de la santé de travailler même si testé positif MAIS asymptomatique ...à certaines conditions et à la pièce.....on est rendu là

3-La réponse est la vaccination....donc vaccination des 18 ans et plus à compter du 4 Janvier pour la 3ème dose.

Side notes....58% des 5-11 ans sont vaccinés....quand même

-Sur les 12,000 cas testés positifs 8,000 étaient non-vaccinés.....donc encore un appel pressant aux non-vaccinés de procéder....DUBÉ se dit certain que ces derniers seront bientôt atteints et de futurs hospitalisés......MAIS IMHO il n'y a plus rien à faire avec eux...cause perdue.