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I am a big fan of products and services that can enhance my life, health etc. but I need to trust them .... assess the risk/reward ratio .... so far these kvid vaxxes are garbage for me .... our lives will not go back to normal no matter how many jabs you get.... there will be a new normal ... "build back better" normal ... our freedoms and rights are gone forever .... now we will get only privileges at the whim of our masters ... you do this you'll get that. This period is just your training.
Btw, where the fuck are the terrorists Isis daesh, al qaeda, you know, the war on terror ..... all gone in the wind .... just like that.... a new program is in place now .... enjoy
Indeed they are. Someone who works in the same building as me was telling me today how she is double vaccinated but caught covid some weeks ago and it knocked the shit out of her. She was really sick for two weeks and it took three weeks before she got her sense of smell and taste back. She told me she is not interested to get a third booster shot because the two shots she got really did not make much of a difference. Yet the government is scaring people non-stop and advertising everyone to get a 3rd shot even though these vaccines are a failure. Weird. They keep on doing lockdowns which were also a failure. That is the definition of insanity to keep on doing the same thing expecting a different result. They for sure have a hidden agenda. The government will ensure our lives will never go back to normal. It looks like they are slowly moving us to a full blown nanny state.
 
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Btw, where the fuck are the terrorists Isis daesh, al qaeda, you know, the war on terror ..... all gone in the wind .... just like that.... a new program is in place now .... enjoy
That`s bullshit and you know it. All you guys who just complain and offer no solutions should move .....North Korea sounds like a welcoming place for your type of thinking....and there is no covid.
 

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Hospitalizations just doubled in 10 days, in Quebec. Now @ 614

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Maybe Omicron is not so mild. I wander how many of the 614 are unvaccinated.
About 50% of these cases are not vaxxed, which translate into this: 10% of the entire population are not vaxxed and they represent 50% of all hospitalizations, putting the entire healthcare system on the verge of collapsing.
 

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About 50% of these cases are not vaxxed, which translate into this: 10% of the entire population are not vaxxed and they represent 50% of all hospitalizations, putting the entire healthcare system on the verge of collapsing.
On this thread there are a lot of guys who don't believe in science, and I find they don't believe in numbers.

Yet the numbers are not wrong.
 

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On this thread there are a lot of guys who don't believe in science, and I find they don't believe in numbers.

Yet the numbers are not wrong.
“Believe” and “science” are contradictory words. If you are a professional scientist, you don’t “believe” in your field theories, you can analyze, understand them and accept or not. If you are not a professional in the field, you are forced to believe and trust not in “science” but to scientists and government officials that claim something you don’t understand and can’t scrutinize as a professional. There are always people in science that decent from the mainstream opinion. It is a good and healthy thing, they are often right and this how science develops. So, do you trust an official version presented by the government or a few dissenting scientists? If you are not professional in the field it is like tossing a coin. Thus to “believe” in science is not a virtue. It is on par with religious beliefs.
 
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Of course, to be able to advance, science needs doubtful and questionning minds. Being a strong skeptical person mysel, I'm always questionning any scientific news. But statistics are not hypothetical, these are real numbers, put in real context. And as a normal rationnal person, I dont need any guidance from whoever, be it scientists or government officials, to read them and see the relationship between those numbers.
 

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Of course, to be able to advance, science needs doubtful and questionning minds. Being a strong skeptical person mysel, I'm always questionning any scientific news. But statistics are not hypothetical, these are real numbers, put in real context. And as a normal rationnal person, I dont need any guidance from whoever, be it scientists or government officials, to read them and see the relationship between those numbers.
Just to remind you: “There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics” - Mark Twain. :)
 
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On this thread there are a lot of guys who don't believe in science, and I find they don't believe in numbers.

Yet the numbers are not wrong.
Believe and science are contradictory words. Fact is when you say believe in science you actually mean follow government orders. I just never understood why so many trust the government. Trust the science is the most anti-science statement ever. Questioning science is how you do science. You confuse follow the scientist with follow science because scientists can be sold to the highest bidder which in this case is the government.
 
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Believe and science are contradictory words. Fact is when you say believe in science you actually mean follow government orders. I just never understood why so many trust the government. Trust the science is the most anti-science statement ever. Questioning science is how you do science. You confuse follow the scientist with follow science because scientists can be sold to the highest bidder which in this case is the government.

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." Neil DeGrasse Tyson

"The good thing about science is it's true whether or not you understand it". Me
 

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"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." Neil DeGrasse Tyson

"The good thing about science is it's true whether or not you understand it". Me
In other words follow government orders. You obviously submit to the government. This is clear to me now.
 
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CLOUD 500

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No, what should be clear to you is I am laughing at your authoritarian, maoism, nanny state bullshit and attributing it to your inability to understand basic concepts.
You are not interested in concepts, only to submit to the government. I am laughing at how you believe all the bullshit the government is saying. But hey if you hate freedom so much you are in the wrong country dude. Pack your bags move to China, you will fit in well.

 
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In July, Singapore saw an outbreak spring from Karaoke lounges - basically fronts for naughty-naughty :cool:


Could have just as easily happened here. Would sure make for some uncomfortable confessions though.
had no idea karaoke lounges were fronts.
Serves me right for not being musical.
 

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Those complicit theorists who believe and trust the government, the Fed admited to tracking the cellphones of 33 million users during the lockdown.
So I was in contact with a double vaxxed girl.
She gets a little sick.
Gets tested 2 days later.
Positive.
I did not get sick nor tested.

Gets government email.
Email begins:

......" Montreal public health department wishes to notify you that you have been identified as a close contact, because you have been exposed to a confirmed case of COVID19 at less than 2 meters for more than 15 minutes......"........

Government for sure has a naughty list of hobbyists and providers hehe
 
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Oh yeay? How is that ?
Believing is like faith and religion. What he wrote is to believe it without any question which is anti-science at its core and is authoritarian. Questioning is how you do science.
 
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