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In response to nothinghere's post. Take a deep breath and relax. This is just another example of inaccurate, sensationalized reporting by an untrustworthy tabloid and repeated by Faux News because it fits their political agenda. The experiment, by a Level 4 $200 million dollar research facility at BU, involved creating a hybrid virus in which the spike protein of the Omicron variant was fused to the virus of the original Wuhan strain. The goal was to determine if mutations in the Omicron spike protein made the illness caused by the variant less severe than the Wuhan strain. The conclusion was that yes it did. Although mice mortality rate was 80%, it was 100% with the original strain. Seems like mice are not particularly reliable animals to use in lab studies of the coronavirus.
 

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ArriveCAN app is a fascinating exploration into organizational management - especially concerning the public sector vs. the private sector.
The app cost the Federal government $54 million, when private sector app developers could do the job for under $250,000.
Elon Musk famously managed to cut the cost of orbital space launches down from $150 million, to $2 million.

Where does this efficiency arise? I fear too often people are overly contented with one sentence answers when very little is monocausal. There are profit incentives within the private sector, there is less patronage and conflicts of interest whereas in the public sector they do not earn profits, they simply steal peoples hard earned money by jacking up taxes or adding new ones to fund their expenses. Controlling cost means nothing to the public sector nor does success. But I think there is something else at play - credentials.
Canada has a minister of health with no background in health and a minister of finance with no background in finance. People get hired and promoted in the public sector based on their ability to articulate a paradigm rather than independent metrics of success. It is optics over substance.
The private sector operates according to independent metrics, and the public sector operates according to optics that gets votes. One of these typically leads to better results.

One last thing is about accountability. Like Thomas Sowell said -- It is hard to imagine a more stupid and more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong. Hence why it costed the Federal government $54 million to develop the ArriveCan app with absolutely no benefit in reducing covid but to control the public.
 

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It is fact that the freedom trucker convoy was the reason the government removed covid mandates. Even now with all the attempt the government is doing to scare people with covid alarmist news multiple times a day, the return of mandates is not being received well by many people. The government is now kind of quiet about mandates. Now that we know the effectiveness of a convoy style protest, can the goal of the next one be ending the income tax act? Biggest scam in history is the income tax act.

Like Tucker Carlson said "The Canadian trucker convoy is the single most successful human rights protest in a generation."
 

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Seems like mice are not particularly reliable animals to use in lab studies of the coronavirus.
Interestingly a great halloween topic.
Be sure they have mice with humanized immune system to conduct research.
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Whatever this global mainstream faux tabloid news is up to I don't know.
To make announcements of this deadly covid "Gain of function" research after 2 years of lockdown,
getting the vax then most getting covid after that vax is particularly disturbing.

Yea I do understand manipulating viruses to "predict" future viruses to prepare future vaccines.
That concept of having nuclear weapons to prevent a nuclear war.
 

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However this not "gain of function" (aka weaponizing) research. This type of distorted reporting politicizes routine scientific research. It's disinformation and it's dangerous.
 
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However this not "gain of function" (aka weaponizing) research. This type of distorted reporting politicizes routine scientific research. It's disinformation and it's dangerous.
I agreed with a lot of what you said earlier. I would add that it wasn't only Fox News spreading their agenda, during the whole pandemic. CNN, MSDNC, etc. have been doing the same. Throw in the lies from social media it's no wonder I still see people walking around wearing masks and gloves outside in the fresh air. We have all been through a lot, no help from any of the media outlets.
 

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I agreed with a lot of what you said earlier. I would add that it wasn't only Fox News spreading their agenda, during the whole pandemic. CNN, MSDNC, etc. have been doing the same. Throw in the lies from social media it's no wonder I still see people walking around wearing masks and gloves outside in the fresh air. We have all been through a lot, no help from any of the media outlets.

In my opinion there's a huge difference in the "agendas" of legitimate, albeit left-leaning, news organizations like CNN and MSNBC and a hard right opinion network like Fox. Agree social media is a cesspool of misinformation and to be avoided entirely.
 

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In my opinion there's a huge difference in the "agendas" of legitimate, albeit left-leaning, news organizations like CNN and MSNBC and a hard right opinion network like Fox. Agree social media is a cesspool of misinformation and to be avoided entirely.
I guess in your opinion this really didn’t happen to our CDC director after recently being vaccinated. Or maybe the left leaning news agencies felt this wasn’t a big enough story:

 

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I guess in your opinion this really didn’t happen to our CDC director after recently being vaccinated. Or maybe the left leaning news agencies felt this wasn’t a big enough story:

Covid vaccines may be able to prevent some, but certainly cannot prevent all, covid infections. There are too many variables and too many covid variants. What they do is significantly protect against severe disease, hospitalization, and death. That's what really matters.
 

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Covid vaccines may be able to prevent some, but certainly cannot prevent all, covid infections. There are too many variables and too many covid variants. What they do is significantly protect against severe disease, hospitalization, and death. That's what really matters.
Typical reply, avoiding the left leaning news agencies part of what I was talking about. I never mentioned anything about your obvious unelated comments above.
 

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Typical reply, avoiding the left leaning news agencies part of what I was talking about. I never mentioned anything about your obvious unelated comments above.
I didn't address it because it's not news worthy or germane. It's very common for vaxed and boosted people to be infected with covid. These people have better medical outcomes than those unvaxed and unboosted. I thought that was a more important point to make especially since you asked if I believed Walensky had been infected.
 

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U.S. health regulators on Friday estimated that BQ.1 and closely related BQ.1.1 accounted for 16.6% of coronavirus variants in the country, nearly doubling from last week, while Europe expects them to become the dominant variants in a month.

The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control said the variants are likely to drive up cases in the coming weeks to months in the European region.

The two variants are descendants of Omicron's BA.5 subvariant, which is the dominant form of the coronavirus in the United States. Regulators in Europe and the U.S. have recently authorized vaccine boosters that target it.
 

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