Coronavirus

[The Nature Boy]

Patron

highly doubt this is gonna go on for years. Now that sounds much like some of “media hype” many are criticizing. There is an end game, it’s been eluded too, hinted @. Problem is there is difficulty accepting that. Tons of disruption on daily life’s of people who THINK this has very little to do with them. Everyone wants their lives back, it’s now you’ll see the worst of people and you’ll see the best of people like the kid who is staying home and not playin footy with the lads to keep his “really old grandpa” healthy. Or the Chinese family who owns a restaurant and is sending meals to the local hospital.

the situation may get worse, restrictions may intensify, so I’d stock up on the Jergens and get some of those translated reviews out from the fantasy file cabinet cause no one knows how this is gonna go. Everyone is still in the reactionary phase.

 

[Man911]

Even after the lockdownd, when someone have a flu, people Will think it covid-19. Life Will not the same.

 

[The Nature Boy]

no It won’t, I think that’s what people have a tough time with. Doubt we will be on lock down for years and years. Pretty sure they will start letting people who have already been infected go back gradually and ease stuff @ some point and life will go back to pretty much normal. But even with a vaccine it’s only gonna be so effective (hopefully a lot) but there’s still gonna be a small amount of peeps who get sick. Guaranteed above 65 year olds will be getting pneumonia, flu, shingles, and now COVID-19 shots. Age and co condition requirement for COViD-19 will prob be same as pneumonia I’m guessing

 

[TheJames101]

In french We call it: "Tu peux jouer à l'autruche".
I'm telling the true. Most guys here, want Gfe, Gfe service. But what about SDT, lol.
Also, I don't hide the seriousness on the pandemic. If you think the coronavirus Will disappear when the lockdownd is over. We have a serious problem.

Please stop posting your nonsense. Earlier you were writing about how this virus has been around for 100 years or something like that. Perhaps you should read some actual articles written by people educated on the subject, and then come back here to contribute. Until then, your input has no value.

Patron, for the endgame... this article may provide some insight. It will be a gradual affair, and herd immunity may play a factor. We'll see.
https://www.macleans.ca/society/science/what-does-the-covid-19-endgame-look-like-five-simple-steps/

 

[The Nature Boy]

Patron,

Maybe in 1St world countries. Those Chinese prob don’t have working thermometers?z

 

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[jalimon]

Nature Boy Covid-19 is not the same as Pneumonia. Pneumonia is a medical conditions caused by different bacteria, virus and infections.

We just need to buy a few months.

Quick testing kit will be available for a few dollars at your regular pharmacy after being available at clinics.
Medical treatment will be found to help those who develop critical conditions because of it.
And eventually a vaccine will come.

I just hope it will take another 120 year before another of those virus comes. But I really doubt. There will be other one. And all those who lived troughs this one will have a different take on life.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Jalimon, let me clarify. I never said covid-19 and pneumonia is the same. What I’m saying is the things that a practitioner will use to judge who should strongly get a covid-19 vaccine/shot will likely be similar to what criteria is already used to get a pneumonia shot/vaccination. Ie agenof patient, presence of asthma, smokers, COPD

 

[Doggyluver]

Jalimon, let me clarify. I never said covid-19 and pneumonia is the same. What I’m saying is the things that a practitioner will use to judge who should strongly get a covid-19 vaccine/shot will likely be similar to what criteria is already used to get a pneumonia shot/vaccination. Ie agenof patient, presence of asthma, smokers, COPD

There is NO shot for covid-19, I repeat, there is NO SHOT so the criteria is not the same, not even close !

 

[The Nature Boy]

Anywhoo doggy, the criteria may be closer to the flu vaccine. Maybe, but like flu there will be many who don’t even get the covid-19 vaccine

 

[No_Church_InThe_Wild]

Interesting that Man911 seems to be of the mindset that we’ve had covid_19 since forever and it is here to stay , but I don’t really get it
Patron is asking some really good questions of how this whole thing is going to play out and if we will be seeing SP’s back pretty soon ,,, but I think if they would to rush back it would be incredibly foolish and dangerous

Let’s hope that Jalimon is right and that soon the situation will have greatly improved... who knows maybe in just a few months we will all receive “envelopes” with a quick testing kit and even a vaccine

Stay safe fellas

 

[Man911]

Please stop posting your nonsense. Earlier you were writing about how this virus has been around for 100 years or something like that. Perhaps you should read some actual articles written by people educated on the subject, and then come back here to contribute. Until then, your input has no value.

Patron, for the endgame... this article may provide some insight. It will be a gradual affair, and herd immunity may play a factor. We'll see.
https://www.macleans.ca/society/science/what-does-the-covid-19-endgame-look-like-five-simple-steps/

You should do your research before writing stupidities.

 

[Rinzler]

Interesting that Man911 seems to be of the mindset that we’ve had covid_19 since forever and it is here to stay , but I don’t really get it

there are multiple coronaviruses already known to affect humans and this has been the case for centuries if not millenia. theyre mostly associated to the common cold so not that dangerous

however coronaviruses like SARS, MERS an SARS-CoV-2 (which causes COVID-19) have only been recently introduced in human populations due to encroachment on wildlife

because the entire human population has never been exposed until now to SARS-CoV-2 everybody is at risk of being infected. fortunately most people wont die from it but still because the virus is more pathogenic that the flu, more people are expected to require hospitalization and even going to icu

its unlikely at this point that globally well be able to contain the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 like what happened with SARS in 2003. there are now just too many countries where the virus can be found, some of them with very basic health care systems like for example most african countries. so the virus is probably going to be circulating for good in the human population

the entire strategy behind physical distancing is meant to slow the spread enough that the health care system wont be completely overwhelmed like what happened in wuhan in the early stages, and now in italy or in new york. hospitals are getting hit so hard that the staff gets infected as well and the health care system collapses. thats what we're trying to avoid

maybe well be able to slow the spread enough to get a chance for a vaccine to be developed (timeline uncertain, and so far the science seems to indicate that the immunity developed post-infection is weakly protective) or maybe a treatment that may help people suffering from the most severe forms of COVID-19

 

[The Nature Boy]

maybe well be able to slow the spread enough to get a chance for a vaccine to be developed (timeline uncertain, and so far the science seems to indicate that the immunity developed post-infection is weakly protective)

where r u getting that science from luv?

 

[EagerBeaver]

Trump Considering Short Term Quarantine of New York, Connecticut and New Jersey

Not really sure how this is going to be enforced, but I am not really planning on going anywhere anyway:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/politics/trump-new-york-new-jersey-quarantine-coronavirus/index.html

 

[jalimon]

Rinzler to the contrary. It's not a certainty but quite safe to think 40/70% of infected population will bring herd immunity. Of course this is not exact science but a long term safe bet.

Also remember a contagious disease is only dangerous if the infection ratio is above 1 (if one person infect no more then 1 other person).

We will resolve this over some months but much sooner, and with much fewer death, then Spanish flu.

 

[Rinzler]

where r u getting that science from luv?

here you go. not a comprehensive list

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41418-020-0530-3

http://apjai-journal.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Covid_AP-200220-0772.pdf

https://www.sfchronicle.com/science...-Is-it-possible-to-be-reinfected-15154426.php

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/28/coronavirus-vaccine-when-will-it-be-ready

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(20)30073-6/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30673-5/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30522-5/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30235-8/fulltext

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2002125?query=featured_home

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006141?query=featured_home

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387?query=recirc_top_ribbon_article_3

 

[The Nature Boy]

Thanks! Will get to it Rinzler! I think that’s the key, if it’s moderately protective they should let people go back to work maybe. Their working on the antibody test to see if you have been infected

 

[Rinzler]

Rinzler to the contrary. It's not a certainty but quite safe to think 40/70% of infected population will bring herd immunity. Of course this is not exact science but a long term safe bet.

Also remember a contagious disease is only dangerous if the infection ratio is above 1 (if one person infect no more then 1 other person).

fyi the r0 of SARS-CoV-2 is above 1. well established at this point

the entire idea of herd immunity is fine in principle but is not demonstrated in the manner you suggest. in practice it depends on a large segment of the population being vaccinated. case in point being measles

we're far from there with SARS-CoV2

and getting to 40% to 70% of the population infected, if the virus is let loose without controlling the speed at which the virus spreads, we're still getting a collapse of the health care system like in italy

 

[The Nature Boy]

R naught they are estimating @ 2-3 for covid-19, might be more